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Bonus video! Hitchcock's other queers
🕑 Added 2023-01-08 17:00:05 +0000 UTCHello there! Thanks to everyone who suggested leads for where I could find the restored version of Pleasure Garden -- the hunt is still underway! In this week's video, we're taking a look at some of Hitchcock's other queer characters, including Emlyn Williams in the lesser-known Jamaica Inn, in which the bisexual actor plays a character who seems ready to flirt with just about everyone. I've also got some fun behind-the-scenes stories about the making of Rope, including a ridiculous little once-you-see-it-you-can't-unsee it trick involving a few props. And! We're gossiping as hard as we possibly can about Cary Grant and Randolph Scott.
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Matt Baume
Oh wow thank you so much! Very exciting!
David Watson
Pleasure garden 1925 https://ok.ru/video/2043317783167 restored version
Abigail McCoy
I am so excited!
Matt Baume
Hi! I'll be going into that in more depth in the video coming this weekend!
Abigail McCoy
Hi! New patron here. Please let me know if I missed it, but in your youtube video on Rope you mentioned that someone from the Rope team had an "interesting experience" with Cary Grant that would be talked about on your patreon. I don't think you talked about it in this video. I love all your content!!
Irisarc
Cary Grant's last wife, actress Dyan Cannon, wrote a tell-all book about her relationship with Grant in the 1960s. He was twice her age, which was a bit of a scandal at that time, and they also had a child together. I seem to remember her talking about his "queerness", not only that he was bisexual, but also into a little bdsm, as well. She was decidedly not into it herself and it helped end their relationship. Please understand that this is all from long ago memories of having read the book 40 or so years ago, so don't quote me directly on any of this. Also, I wanted to say this about last week's video, but it was already a week old when I got around to getting caught up. Anyway, the movie _Rope_ and the play it was based on were in turn loosely based on an infamous, real-life murder case from the 1920s. A couple of young men, who were presumed to be gay, called Leopold and Loeb, decided to kidnap and murder a neighbor boy of theirs just to see what it felt like. It was a fascinating case, and well worth looking into. Their trial was a real media event at the time, being the first truly sensationalized murder case in the nation.
Mark
I wonder how old Cary and Randolph Scott were when they lived together? Because in the movie “Boys in the Band” Michael states: “Men over 30 living together are not bachelors. They’re either sisters….or lovers!” It’s very intriguing!
Steve Martin
I presume you've read Full Service: My Adventures In Hollywood And The Secret Sex Lives Of The Stars by Scotty Bowers? He talks about Cary Grant in that.
Elin Hagberg
Oh, that sip of champagne was great. Such a cute face when realized.
Marsia Powers
Sorry for reposting, each time I edited it ended up posting. My friend recently wrote this book. I'm waiting for it to arrive. Cary Grant : Taking The Lead. https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781629339610
Zardogs! Zardogs!
That Wings track shot is incredible. Also, is it just me or is the couple after the two women kind of looking at them confused?
Maureen OHalloran
Re: Cary Grant. See the documentary “Women He’s Undressed” about the costume designer Orry-Kelly based on his memoir. Worth watching in its entirety but the parts about Cary Grant are on YouTube. https://youtu.be/XcuuQuymhOc Also I took a short course on the films of Hitchcock and the first one we saw was “Murder!” from 1930. Definitely had some queer coded characters, unfortunately the villains, as well as period attitudes about race.
Roberto Chavez and David Kersey
Re: Cary Grant - I remembered Betty White on the The Joy Behar Show in 2010 that she mentioned Cary Grant when speaking about closeted gay actors. But she quickly backpedaled. I couldn't find clips from it (they have been taken down since then). https://www.advocate.com/news/daily-news/2010/06/17/did-betty-white-out-cary-grant https://www.advocate.com/news/daily-news/2010/06/17/did-betty-white-out-cary-grant
Juan Nunez
Are you familiar with the 1918 German film "Ich möchte kein Mann sein", which translates to "I don't want to be a man." It's a comedy about a tomboyish woman who disguises herself as a man. At a party that she attends while dressed as a man, she bonds with the male romantic lead, who doesn't know she's a woman. They fall in love and make out while drunk. It's very queer. It doesn't have anything to do with your current search but it is a fun piece of Silent era queer cinema.
