Finding Matty through past Taylor Swift songs feat. Cam from What I Will Say
🕑 Added 2024-05-01 20:28:00 +0000 UTCHey guys! Cam and I hopped on this week to look through Folklore, Evermore and Midnights and see which songs might actually have MATTY as the muse in them instead of Joe. What we found...was saddening hahaha because there are quite a lot! Check out Cam's sister episode of this too where we do the same for the Lover, Reputation and 1989 albums.
Also, I know it's been a Taylor heavy week and you guys were here for me when I did that Patreon mini about how I HATED Taylor Swift and refused to talk about her hahaha so there will also be another episode tomorrow about a different topic for my floozies out there who can't stand Taylor (I was once a part of that club...give it a couple months I'll be back there again). Timestamps for the albums:
0:00 Intro and Folklore
22:10 Willow
36:42 Midnights
Comments
mandalyn
I don’t listen to Taylor or Matty and still listened to this whole thing fully entertained. Yall are good at what you do that is for certain!
Camille
Ok quick thought here: that line in “It’s Time to Go” about the guy asking for the check & how he insists that friends look at each other like that….i wonder if that is about her and Matty. I always thought ITTG was talking about moments that were all negative, but making that like about temptation puts an interesting spin on it for me.
RJ
My brain is too fried for more thoughts but I think Taylor has written enough about affairs over the past few albums to prove to me that she loves a lil affair. From her songs it seems like she doesn’t like a relationship that feels comfortable and safe and would rather chase the danger!
RJ
I’m late but the stubborn part of me refuses to let maroon be about a man 😂 though if it really is about Matt or Joe I think karlie was playing into it… like her showing up in a maroon dress, a color that is not nearly as common as many other shades of red, a week after midnights, was insane of her!! To me at least
Nyxl Scorpion
So are we thinking Mayty Healy is William Bowery?
Laura
Did anyone watch Antphrodite’s tarot reading on these two??!!
Georgina
One ttpd song about him mentions your ‘scarlet maroon’ so it’s likely Maroon is about him
Victoria MK
omg for “Slut!”, there are mentions of neon lights — don’t some of The 1975 early album covers feature neon lights? (not a huge fan but remember them from the tumblr days) and wasn’t MH/the band supposed to be credited as collaborators on that specific song (the target printing error)
Alex N
I think exile could be about Marty because it’s a love triangle where she ends up choosing one (Joe)
Sarah Raizen
Same!! I’m convinced about glitch 100%
Shannon McNamara
GLITCH! I forgot about it but it makes so much sense
Shannon McNamara
oh thats a good catch
Shannon McNamara
oooo i like that
Courtney
All the talk about The Lakes potentially being about sneaking away to Matty make me wonder if Illicit Affairs is about Matty - going out for a run, don’t call me kid, colors I’ve never seen then the juxtaposition of fading to grey on TTPD all feel Matty
Yana Tretyakova
I'm surprised you didn't mention Glitch...
Yana Tretyakova
evermore's "willow" - "wreck my plans" again, in Chloe or Sam: "Back to the moment I crashed into you Like so many wrecks do"
Yana Tretyakova
"cowboy like me": Forever is the sweetest con to "loml": A con man sells a fool a get-love-quick scheme
Yana Tretyakova
I always thought "tattoo kiss" in "cardigan" refers to the hickey not the real tattoos. also, in "Down Bad" Taylor says "waking up in blood " and in the "cardigan" it's "You drew stars around my scars But now I'm bleeding" I think Chloe or Sam.. is definitely about Matty: - As the decade would play us for fools (they met in 2013-2014) - You needed me but you needed drugs more (the reason it didn't work out initially) - And you have some kids with an internet starlet (again about the internet starlet); But many songs on TTPD give the vibe of being about multiple things at the same time. For example, "The smallest man" feels like being about Matty in the first verse, but the bridge can be also about Scott or Scouter.
TMay
I love this take!
Y2K4Ever
sonically TTPD is trying to be folklore adjacent…. so this makes sense to me. also it’s quite clear to me that taylor and joe cheated on each other (at least emotionally?)
Kayla Daly
Shannon stop I have a possum tattoo I love them so much 😭
Christine P.
Re: the one - I always thought the bus stop was referring to her seeing an exs picture at the Bus stop, like from an ad campaign.
Paula Andrea
I love Cam!!
Marissa
Straight from Cams episode to this one. so happy I don’t have to look for anything else to listen to! I love y’all’s content sm. Truly brings so much joy to my work days 🫶🏼
Emily Elser
I was so hoping you were going to do something like this with Cam!!! I am foaming at the mouth while listening!
Mia
Downloading this EXPEDITIOUSLY before my flight takes off