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Power Corrupts: Lumbering Giants (ch. 52)

🕑 Added 2020-10-17 15:01:44 +0000 UTC

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Ahtu Nyarlathotep

So, the better option is to waste both the empire and Skyrim's resources/human lives - Rule through force and fear, and do the Thalmor's job for them? A ridiculous notion. It's certainly worth negotiating for, but not even remotely worth fighting a war with them for. A war they can't afford. What Ulfric did, is as they say in accordance with Skyrim law. And Torygg even accepted it. You might have had a point if Torygg referred to imperial law, and refused. But he didn't. They had the perfect excuse to distract the Thalmor using Skyrim, and supporting them on the downlow through the trade. And then joining in when they were ready. A fairly brief period serves the humans WAY better than it serves the Thalmor. As they're way more reproductive, and willing to get their hands dirty in the literal sense - Rebuilding, and preparing for the next war. As things stand they *are* being maniuplated against one another. This really is the worst case scenario that the empire is going in for. With the premise that Ulfric wanted take the throne on, he could hardly have refused when they later called an alliance in fighting the Thalmor - Even if he wanted to. Which he certainly would not really refuse either way. Letting the province go, was the only even half-intelligent choice to make. They had the excuse they needed in Skyrim law, and the displeasure of the population. Now they are instead fighting the Thalmor's war, enforcing their laws, and giving them free reign.

Benjamin Lawton

Yeah, no. If Skyrim splits off, then rather than a single, mostly-united enemy with diminished but still significant strength, the Thalmor would instead be facing several, far <i>weaker</i> enemies that can be either picked off individually with far greater ease, or else manipulated against each other. Basic "divide and conquer" tactics. Prior to Ulfric doing the incredibly stupid and impossible-to-ignore thing of killing Torygg, the Empire had been perfectly content with sitting back and let the Stormcloaks and the Thalmor slaughter each other, all while continuing to half-ass their "enforcement" of the Talos ban which they didn't even like anyway.

Ahtu Nyarlathotep

Hmm he's not exactly wrong about the war per se. But it's the empire that is stupid enough to fight that war, and weaken both sides up for the Thalmor. They can only lose by doing this, instead of letting Skyrim leave the empire, like Hammerfell. Letting them leave would keep the Thalmor busy while they build their strength. They can still trade with them afterall, Skyrim would just become independant. The treaty does not force them to fight for the Thalmor, they're stupid enough to do that willingly, when there's a better solution. Ulfric is going about this all the wrong way, and he's probably doing it out of personal greed as well. But his basic cause is the right course of action(even if he is a terrible choice for a ruler).


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