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A Hard Knock Life (Worm/Cyberpunk 2077): Test chapter

🕑 Added 2020-12-21 21:36:45 +0000 UTC

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Nick

I’m on the fence with this one. Not the direction I would have taken, but I can hardly judge if I’ll read on or not from just one chapter I remain cautiously optimistic

kolra

Oh i am definitly looking forward to more of this.

CaptainNibblesSpaceKitty

I was pleasantly surprised with this story in all honesty. At first I thought mabye V woke up after the ending of CyberPunk in the Worm universe but instead you decided to merge the two in a so far intriguing way. I'll have to compliment the way you explained how capes are owned by corporations with follwed up by detailed descriptions of advertisements of said heros. My only wonder now is if V is going to have a shard at some point but that's for future chapters. All in all I enjoyed the story hope to see more.

Eliezer

The story didn't grab me. And yeah, too similar to See No Evil (which I do like, current fave). I'd vote that you keep looking.

IdeasGuy

I think it’s a matter of how the mesh is done. Worm is a deconstruction on the genre of superheroes and can more or less be summarized as people doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. Cyberpunk, the genre, is a deconstruction on the idea that technology equals advancement. That people will just be as shitty to each other as they are now, and all the tech in the world is just flash to cover up that fact. In that vein, they have very similar themes to work with -- that theme being that powers/tech don’t solve the inherent shittiness of people. To that end, I would say that they are very similar when it comes to morality baselines. In Worm, on a street level, you has sexual slavery, Merchants addicting people to drugs, and rampant racism from Empire 88. In cyberpunk, on a street level, you have the same, just replace the racism with mod harvesting. On a national level in Worm? Rampant corruption, abuse of power, a global conspiracy that pulls at the strings of the world to prompt conflict to have more capes. Not to mention the tri-monthly attacks by the Endbringers. Cyberpunk? All the above, just without the capes and Endbringers. The settings are similar enough, I would say that they’re made for each other. Additionally, as Worm is being adapted to Cyberpunk, it’s the one that changes the most. And it’s been a lot of fun thinking of how the settings would interact. An example would be Piggot. She practically killed herself with her kidneys because she didn’t trust a cape to fix them. Because of that, she rapidly gained weight and that was something she could blame on capes too. Except in cyberpunk, synth kidneys were a thing in the 2020s. Meaning that Piggot had an alternative to fixing her kidneys, thus she never gained weight, thus she never got fat. In theory, you have a happier and healthier Piggot. I’m aiming for a real blend of the settings rather than just a Cyberpunk setting with capes, or Worm with a Cyberpunk veneer.

Alex Piskura

I admit I'm kind of hesitant about this one. I honestly don't think the Worm setting meshes well with the Cyberpunk setting, primarily because the baseline morality that Worm seems to operate on is taken to a comically mundane level when you look at the corpocratic dystopia of Night City. Life is incredibly cheap, everyone is equally downtrodden by gangs and corpos (and now villains, which, given the inherent lethality in which problems are handled by the corrupt levers of power, makes this much more laughable) and the tools they employ tends to spoil the narrative motivations of the canon cast quite a bit. There is no law-abiding power. There isn't even the illusion of a law abiding power. There are no inherent rights that are really respected or observed by any entity in power, and government is a paper tiger at this point. Which, to cut to the point, means that whatever morality Taylor, and indeed most of the cast operate on, would be anything from mildly to wildly different from what we know. Enough so that I would argue you'd be better off just doing an original cyberpunk setting with the addition of superpowers, since you'd already be stuck trying to integrate the two series' histories to that minute a level. I mean, by 2020 in the cyberpunk setting, there had been what, three Corporate wars? Most of the US was a nuclear wasteland by that point already and the illusion that government had any control over the corps was long since gone. That means characters parents and grandparents would have had wildly different life experiences, perspectives and understandings by the time the current cast rolled around. Enough so that all that would really be left of canon worm characters is the name and outfit. That's not even touching that the setting itself has mundane superpowers in the form of cyberware, which kind of takes the mystique and drama out of the whole capes thing, since now everyone can have bullet proof skin and super strength. Which is a factor, since that makes mundies able to go toe to toe with most of the non-A class threats. Which would result in a much higher villain casualty rate, since Joe Dirt would have the chops to knock Oni Lee's head off his shoulders with a lucky shot, even moreso with the standard response to high threat being MaxTac, who, if one is fortunate, might only kill everything in a city block to stop a rampant criminal. And that's just two of the bigger issues. Look at BrainDive tech. You can literally plug in anything you want with the right shard, be it combat sims, hardcore porn, or one on one tutoring, and more. The tech itself makes teachers and public schooling kind of obsolete, and who has time to deal with that since it's noted that an 18 hour work day is considered a kindness and worthy of being in the top five corporations list for benefits. It's... it's a hard sell. I thik at the end the point I'm trying to make is this. While this kind of crossover is doable, taking Cyberpunk 2077 and painting a handful of details from Worm into it doesn't mesh well. Worm works because it draws from a culture we can, if not grasp perfectly, can understand. That makes us able to understand why a character or plot works the way it does. We can apply a similar baseline morality because in the end we get that it's just our world shifted to the left a few degrees. Cyberpunk on the other hand is almost a totally foreign world, for all that it pretends to have some similar trappings to ours, and at the end of the day it's dystopia taken to a pretty far extreme, so much so that the very baseline that all decisions and actions taken and made by the people there would be almost alien to us. So while I don't doubt that you can make it work, I do think it needs a lot more thought put into meshing things together better than what's provided here. It's an entertaining read, but it was tough to swallow for me since I kept finding things I was getting hung up on because of how out of place they felt in the setting. But that's just my two eddies.

Archaicx1

I also love the premise but I would like to have V as the MC. I dont mind taylor being there however. Adds another perspective. I would love to see this story continue.

Markie

Loved the story would prefer V as a MC or SI not a fan of Taylor being a protagonist. I love the setting personally can’t get enough of cyberpunk

IdeasGuy

Appreciate it -- My usual beta doesn't care for Worm or Cyberpunk, so I couldn't go to them. I'll clean it up when I get a chance. I had just wanted to get feedback because I was in the mood to write the second chapter, but I wasn't sure if it would be a waste of time or not. You also have a point about the exposition. I'll do some editing when I get off work to snip the unnecessary bits.

IdeasGuy

For Vergil, what I did was take several core character traits and built a character around them. Ambitious, ruthless, and compassionate. V shares the ambitious trait, but in place of ruthlessness, you have loyalty and charm. Where Vergil values control because he runs an organization, V is a force of chaos that disrupts other people's plans. I had a really complicated explanation here, but I realized that there was a simpler way to say it. Vergil takes after his inspiration from Vergil of DMC -- cool, calm, collected and in control. V will be more like Dante -- brash, charming, chaotic, but with a heart of gold and loyal to a fault. As for the balance of power -- for capes, it’s a bit of a weird case. In Cyberpunk, with the right mods, you can practically become a cape. Only those that can are rare so that type would be exclusive to high level Miltech characters, or successful mercenaries. In the blend, it’s entirely possible for a non-cape to take out a cape. If anything, it happens often because most capes aren’t bulletproof and in Night City, you never leave home unarmed. Then you have capes like Lung or Alexandria and so on. Cyberpunk does have things that could take them out -- I mean, they have self replicating nanite mines in the ocean that killed marine trading for the entire world at one point. So, I wouldn’t say that they’re untouchable. How does that matter to V? V won’t ever be able to out punch Alexandria, but that doesn't mean he can’t bring her to her knees.

Ab9999

I have mixed feelings on it. On one hand, grim “doing the wrong things for the right reasons” worm meets cyberpunk, and since you decided to combine them that gives you a lot of room to play around with. I like the possibilities there. I also feel like they don’t mesh well because in cyberpunk people really suck. Like hardcore. Slaughterhouse nine? Pfft, psychos like that pop up every week. Only difference is they don’t have “fuck you” powers like Siberian, grey boy, or maybe crawler. And for the corporations white collar crime is just good business sense that gets people killed as a resource or expenditure. This is where I I feel like worm wouldn’t fit quite right. Worm was always bad but cyberpunk easily has it beat. It doesn’t need contessa fucking up things for the right reason because it’s an absolute mess. It wouldn’t fit quite right because cyberpunk would suck the life out of worm. Would be interested in seeing more anyways. So you do whatever you want

Christian

I enjoyed the chapter, you nail V and even if he’s similar to Vergil the cutthroat gloryseeking attitude makes him distinct. If you do end up writing this though, the chapter could use a second pass for typos and I honestly think you could dial down the exposition a bit, maybe try and make it more natural somehow with V explaining it to someone else or something. Right now it feels a bit too ‘as you know’ and we’re kind of stuck in V’s head. But other than that it’s a fun chapter, I’d love to see more.

IdeasGuy

I appreciate the concern, but I'm actually good. I usually mess around with other story ideas when I've finished off my other stories for the week. And between my pick up writing speed, I've been looking to add another story to the roster for awhile now. If I didn't think I could add another story, then I wouldn't try it.

Lazy Wizard

I’ll throw my hat into the ring. I would prefer V as a protagonist, not Taylor. There are so many fics about her I just lose interest in stories with her. Having her be an occasional viewpoint character is fine, but not protag. I really like the fusion setting here, cyberpunk with capes and all the problems that comes with them. That being said, I do have concerns. It looks awfully similar to See No Evil, which while not a bad thing it makes this story less distinct. Another concern, albeit a personal one, is power levels. Capes make it hard for a lot of cyberpunk stuff to be relevant. There’s only so much a gun and implants can do against Lung or even as you mention Hookwolf. V would likely end up a small fish in a big pond, which is honestly not my cup of tea. I have a habit of liking powerful characters.

Antares

Honestly not particularly a fan. So many worm fanfics that I’ve gotten kinda bored of them. It feels like your stretching yourself thin and that more work means less chapters of other stories.

Mkaius

This looks absolutely amazing, I like the setting blend, what little I’ve seen of it so far. I like how hungry V is. The fight was swift and the execution even swifter and I liked that, the way stuff like that, despite it being new to V, was just something that happened. The cape culture is intriguing and I would love to see what you’d do with heroism and corporate capes. I’m not sure what the end game would be, and I’m curious how groups like the slaughterhouse and threats like the Endbringers translate in this setting if they do at all. It’s hard for me to imagine the slaughterhouse surviving at all in this kind of world. All in all solid first chapter, I would love to see more.

Lightseid

I would prefer a Self-Insert, but if you don't want to do that again, the main character of this chapter shall suffice.

TheCynicalOne

I was kinda hoping for a Post GM Taylor in Cyberpunk story but this looks pretty interesting too. I just hope that the story alternates between V and Taylor since I'm kinda sour on V as a character and Cyberpunk in general...screw you CDPR.

Snakers

Not interested in Worm.

Good.T

I've always like the premise of climbing a social ladder step by step in story, and it should be really fun in a Night City. That being said, it's hard to evaluate your story in only one chapter because I think you have a tendency to make MC lose sight of the their initial goal and/or the story premise, like how Jericho is the most sane and responsible person in the story (despite, well, Power Corrupts, which probably applies to everyone in the story except Jericho at this point) or the "for greatness" Vergil also somehow became "Saint Vergil", but that's still not nearly as bad. Before this turned into a rant, if you want to based the story on Cyberpunk's Night City with a parahumans system, why not do just do that? I think V's fine since he's kind of a blank MC but there's no reason for anyone from Worm to be here.

Vega

I liked it! But then I am a sucker for worm stories and what little I know about cyberpunk is sounds like it’ll be a good crossover!

Taryn Myst

This a damn intriguing blend of Cyberpunk of Worm and I for one would love to see it continued. Having the two settings merging like this gives you a lot of room to play around, so I’m interested to see where this goes

IdeasGuy

Yeah, I was surprised by the similarities in my playthrough. It was honestly a bit shocking, really. The idea for this story is to kinda take Vergil except without 7th Heaven holding him down, as it were. And in place of Tifa, you have Taylor... So it's kinda a recipe for disaster.

Stevie57

I'm a fan of the story so far. Like others have mentioned I prefer if V is the MC but wouldn't mind an alternating perspective with Taylor occasionally. I haven't played cyberpunk but it does kind of seem like V is similar to Vergil in your other story based on how he is coming off the streets.

marids

This 100%. The entire global setting of the Worm world is more than worth exploring and use for stories, yet people keep focusing on the Brockton bay characters for some reason or another.

What a fantastic start. I really enjoyed the first chapter and would prefer for the fic to focus on mostly V.

IdeasGuy

Because of how advanced the world of Cyberpunk is, somethings will change. Some more drastically than others. One of those things is that the Unwritten Rules never really took off because it's so easy to find out someone's identity since it's almost nessecarry to have some level of tech in your body. That also means that there really isin’t an independent cape scene. In Worm, the worl revolve around capes and what they did. In Cyberpunk, because Contessa couldn’t (somehow) restrict gun use, capes are open to attack. Being a cape makes you vulnerable, so a basic safety measure is joining up with someone. Either an independent group, a gang or a corp. I’ll expand on it as the story goes one, but that’s the gist of it.

Kedrick Hebert

Big fan of this prompt, really excited to see more! The mashing of the two worlds has a ton of potential. Personally I’d prefer a v-centric story but I’ll pretty much read whatever you write

Hrathen

Skeptical how capes is going to fit into this fic, maybe V gets a tinker ability to enhance netrunner? Regardless, it's still an interesting concept and I really like V's rationale. He has nothing, so he has nothing to lose to take as much as he can before he snuffs it

Eldar Zecore

This sounds like a great start! I’m curious how you will develop a Streetkid V getting his start, and what skills he’ll gain overtime

Breakaway_2

I like it I am just hoping for Sliverhand to be in V's head again as the conversations between V and him is great.

Draconic Hermit

Love the premise. I would prefer an alternating perspective between Taylor and V (the Protagonists of their respective stories). If you do decide to do that, Make sure to mark who your following.

Big ToFu

V or an SI would be nice as the MC. Kinda tired off all the Taylor worm stories out there. It's a sandbox just play in thw world Wana be Canon stories frustrate me.


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