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Gone Native: Clash (ch. 17)

🕑 Added 2021-10-18 15:00:34 +0000 UTC

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rockus4

Shouldn't doctor fate be at best neutral to Tarble as he is basically bringing order to a chaotic Galaxy.

RJKY

Things seem to be heating up.

dude13537

Did Superman just get trapped on the other side of the force field from Tarble? If so, things are about to go very badly for Earth’s political leaders. Expecially UN Secretary-General Tseng Dangun. Edit: Well, unless they have a cloned Kryptonian up their sleeve.

Alex Piskura

At the end of the day it was always going to be Tarble vs. Superman. I noticed some people talking about Flash getting taken out like he did and the results of the Fate fight but as it's been mentioned before, Tarble went through an excruciating and complex magical ritual to prevent himself from being weak to magic specifically, and said resistance has held up against some of the most powerful magic known to the standing DCU. This is combined with the fact that Tarble himself has had the experience to know that you don't give enemies a chance to acclimate to your strengths when it's serious, so yeah, taking Fate out when he was still getting his shit in order isn't a surprise. Traditionally magic is either super effective or not at all, with no middle ground. As far as Flash goes, Gotta Go Fast isn't a hard counter to near-Superman levels of strength and durability, especially when the person he's fighting has fought hypersonic enemies in the past, and has strategies for dealing with them. I don't remember if losing the Metaknowledge was also lost when he threw away his humanity, but if he was aware of the Flash prior to meeting him, then the element of surprise is gone. Don't forget, this isn't your standard villain of the week, who shows up practicing an unusual amount of restraint in a no-gore kids friendly setting. Tarble is strategic and effective, with a decent, if not detailed grasp of who he'd be fighting, and he'd have been a fool to not consider what he would do in a situation where he's being attacked wholeheartedly. Keep in mind, he didn't use anything we haven't seen before, and cheered him for using, but he doesn't get an idiot ball just because we like the people he's fighting now. Ultimately what happened was Flash went up against an opponent ready for him and tried to do the usual good guy thing of knocking Tarble out, and Tarble responded with full, lethal force, and unfortunately for Flash it was effective. Good planning trumps enthusiasm once again.

Nick

And just when I thought I knew what was going to happen!

Mike

I don't think anyone in JL has been killed. They were all teleported to safety. I would say they are out of comission.

Anthony Essex

Awesome chapter can't wait for the next btw did the league know about the star-destroying weapons or was that Earth's governments?

Adrian Gorgey

Awesome

aj0413

Loving this. Please don't feel pressured to change things; some are gonna feel the need to be angry over how some match ups go, but honestly you're already doing a lot for the story by toning back the power scaling on DBZ to something that makes more sense. On another note, I really really want to see Tarble figure out either SS2 or how to kaoken + SS would be amazing to see this be the thing that pushes him over that ledge Side note to above, don't be afraid to raise power levels; Superman canonically had his own training arcs when he realized he needs to be stronger/better And the JLs best tools are planning and prep, not sudden death matches

Boobby hill

Well shit things finally went south and the super saiyan form came out against the man of steel(even tho he's way stronger than steel). Honestly I'm hard pressed on super saiyan doing him in excluding the fact the government and heroes who are probably going to join as well. This is gonna be one hell of a party. Also is this the deep sea fishing table needed cuz not gonna lie I think he's going to need some floaties. The natural disposition towards this fight was always going to happen it was dependent on tarble's willingness to give us o earthlings some slack as the earth side was clearly always trying/testing his buttons. Granted it was more of the governments shit than anyone else but really not unexpected given that the government is shady as hell and will not tolerate bs from aliens though if they can survive Saud alien is a gamble on the justice league cuz unless they're hiding idk frieza 2.0 with some clean apple software they're poking way outta their league. I wonder if the justice and the tarble side can compromise here cuz if tarble loses I doubt much will stop his army from rescuing him without destroying a city or two. If superman loses humanity morale will take a huge hit and its debatable if they will continue the fight with superman down or just make a retreat to fight another day with some batman planning. Oh man what if darkseid just popped in to say "hey what a wonderful kind of day". I suppose that's also a possibility a third enemy popping in and forcing tarble and supes to work together but that's just to stop the fighting for a bit as long as those responsible for his soldiers death lives tarble will not give in to any sort of compromise. So far into earth saga has been pretty good as all the fights felt natural and in character, the government actions weren't totally insane and probably not out of line with what real governments would do if they had superman on their beck and call if earth stubbed a toe on an alien pebble. Really their actions aren't that unwarranted tarble is this strong ass alien that came out of nowhere and told them his owns them now, not much paths were gonna open there for a peaceful conquest/rule/compromise. The slow uphill to this fight was great as we finally feel the tension that was slowly getting tighter and tighter despite some form of non violent agreements on the horizon just 1 more day right? The death of his man finally snapped the line for tarble hoo boy things are going down I'm on the edge of my seat for this fight and the resolutions to come for it.

Rockinalice

I am wondering will tarble fully master SS1 like goku did in cell saga before any other Transformations?

Heraclitus

I honestly have no idea how things with Earth will end up. Every time I do, something happens and I get thrown for a loop. It's nice to be in the dark with truly anything, seemingly, up for grabs.

CB-Otaku

Fate is on time out. His real self is in another dimension and the Helmet is his Anchor that lets him mess around in ours. The gut punch may have killed his current host tho. As for the Flash... I'd tend to agree except 1, we know Tarbles had time to see the Speed Force in action with Burter, 2 the Z Fighters were moving faster than the eye could see back in the Saiyan Saga... and 3 Slade Wilson was able to predict and blow out Kid Flash's knees at one point in the comics and he's not nearly as fast as the Sayain Saga Z Fighters... Given that Tarble is much faster than Slade, has energy sensing that works faster than sight and has comparable battlefield experience I can see Tarble getting a similar hit in should an opening present itself. (Realistically, Barry should be too fast for said openings to appear, but he gets hit by dumber shit in the comics so...)

Ironforge

So is Fate dead or just on time out like when the Witch boy loses his cat? Since I can't imagine a lord of order so easy to permanently remove. Also have to agree with how Flash went out, since unless this is mostly new flash the access to the speed force should make the whole losing traction kind of hard to do. Since at the speeds he moves the ground couldn't give him proper traction anyway and would just turn into liquid. So he is already doing speed force bullshit there.

Flogoyog

I'm sort of sad members of the JL are already getting killed, I was hoping for a bit more polite conversation between earth heroes and people that lived through the war of light. The JL probably would have fractured when they realised the UN was basically run by their nemeses but it wasn't to be.

IdeasGuy

Barry gets hit by boomerangs and ice rays. He's fast but, like all speedsters, he has a weakness of needing traction -- at least until you get to a point where you're running on lightning it something. With Fate, it was just a bad match up. Tarble had a shit ton of magic resistance and Fate is a full wizard.

ST

Yeah, I’ll just call bullshit on Barry being that slow and Fate being taken out like a pussy.


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