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The Tiger and the Dragon: Act 13, Chapter 1

🕑 Added 2023-02-21 04:06:58 +0000 UTC

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Aeridinae Lunaris

It was no humans left along the main highway because the local beastmen were trying to keep them from being eaten by passing migrants.

Gopard

But I think those "normal" beastmen lords also wouldn't start slaughtering humans if SK revealed who they are. They could easily see that the Undead forces are pretty much unstoppable once fully let loose and the entire reason why diplomacy failed was because of the "strong warriors make the decision thus diplomacy can only be done with them" mindset from the beastmen and if Ludmila just goes there to negotiate noone will call her to "weak" to do it! As for the point about human captives, now the Beastmen may decide to just eat them as provisions or take them back into the jungle when they inevitably retreat! I don't see how that makes the "captives" situation any better than revealing the true nature of the Undead forces!

Noah Swan

The humans, best wraith Ludmila, and the chibi dragon lord don't even know about Saraca's existence nor his influence. Diplomacy simply isn't an option when you would need to reveal yourself and in doing so would royaly piss off the opposition thus endangering the lives of any humans within beastmen reach at minimum. At worst, should the beastmen win or force Ludmila to call reinforcements, it would make the Sorcerer Kingdom and thus Ainz look bad when Sebas is forced to clean house... which could very well see Albedo make Ludmila's life really hard. Diplomacy just isn't going to happen until it's extremely apparent that further violence won't be good for the beastmen.

Gopard

Thanks for the chapter! I see now why they were continuing their Horde Bluff, it was honestly pretty unclear to me how many Humans were spread out in that region still under beastmen control! Still, I can't help but question their refusal to try talking now, I mean they have 200.000 "refugees/hostages" in eastwatch and surroundings but if their actual strength was revealed and the fact that they "only" mean to save all the humans and drive the beastmen out of the DK then the beastmen would be glad to be able to retreat no? I'm definitely sure that Saraca at the very least would tell the "grand beastmen Army" to release the humans snd fuck off back to their own territory, if he learned not only about the undead "sentient leadership" and millitary strength (a single cavalry squad would suffice to make him figuratively shit his pants I think) but also a mandate by a DRAGON LORD! Like at the moment even if the beastmen and up losing and consequently fleeing they would probably try and "evacuate" the humans with them and in that case the "Undead Horde Bluff" is actually counterproductive to the goal of "first and foremost we must strive to save as many as possible!".

Great chapter, it seems like this might have been an end of this arc and the final arc would start in two days. I really like the comments about remaining humans, because from Saraca's PoV it seemed like there were no humans left in the east of Draconic Kingdom. Now that it was explicitly said that there are still many humans waiting for rescue the continuation of horde bluff makes sense. Also since Ludmila noticed that beastmen are becoming weird compared to her predictions about them she has even better reason to use message spell to contact Verilyn. After a month or so she should (from Ludmila PoV) know about their culture, and possible border enemies. She could have also heard about a famous warmaster that went to fight the undead. Those details would help Ludmila plan and anticipate the tactics beastmen could use. Of course she would also learn about Saraca which could lead to change in approach and allowing for diplomacy.


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