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Episode 11: The CIA and the Deep State w/Ray McGovern
🕑 Added 2022-01-05 15:06:46 +0000 UTCThis episode features Aaron and his Peace Studies of the American Century students in conversation with retired CIA officer Ray McGovern. The discussion ranges across Ray’s experiences as a CIA officer from the Kennedy administration to first George Bush administration—as well as his post-CIA work as a peace activist weighing in on Iraq WMD, CIA torture, Julian Assange, and the Russiagate hoax.
Special thanks to Casey Moore for the episode art and Dana Chavarria for the sound engineering!
Music: "Grow Your Soul Away" by Mock Orange
Comments
Jim McSporran
So God was in on Russiagate. I knew it!
Aaron Good
Yes, it's great to have guys like him around. More in this vein soon, hopefully!
Aidan powell
Really enjoyed this discussion. Ray’s voice and speaking style reminds me of the character “deep throat” from the X-Files….but maybe the subject matter is getting to my head lol
John McElroy
Inkin, Blinken, and Nod memes 😂
Aaron Good
He's so generic you almost want to give him a pass...
Matt Pierce
Really appreciated you taking a moment to draw attention to Blinken. A perfect representative of the species of stooges and dunces that slither around Washington to administer empire. Just a loathsome guy.
Aaron Good
I'll get him back on at some point in the future...
Jack Hamrick
I would definitely listen to a long episode with Ray, there’s so much more from that era that would be fascinating to hear you two in conversation on!
Aaron Good
Thanks! I myself really enjoyed re-listening to this after more than 6 months. Ray is a wonderful guy and he's had a great vantage point for a lot the events we cover here...
Camille Shultz
Wow! This was an insanely good episode. Ray's story speaks to the multitude of problems facing individuals intertwined in the system under which we live. That he has committed himself to peace, truth and justice as a way to atone for his past inaction is remarkable...plus, he's hilarious. Thank you so much!
