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Episode 32: Minding the Darkness, Minding the Light w/Peter Dale Scott (Part 4)
🕑 Added 2022-03-28 21:19:28 +0000 UTCThis is Part 4 of Minding the Darkness, Minding the Light—our oral history series with Professor Peter Dale Scott. He is the iconoclastic poet, historian, and political theorist who gave us parapolitics as well as the deep politics approach. Also accompanied by special co-host Ben Howard, Peter reflects upon a number of topics including:
- Malcolm X
- the other the post-JFK political assassinations of the 1960’s
- Peter’s involvement with the Pentagon Papers
- the Ellsberg trial and Ellsberg’s parapolitical detractors
- the rise and fall of the counterculture
- the CIA and LSD
- Peter’s important early book, The War Conspiracy
Here is the fascinating Pacifica Radio broadcast over at Our Hidden History that Ben referenced: What the Pentagon Papers Do and Do Not Reveal and JFK & Vietnam w/ Peter Dale Scott (1971)
Follow Ben on Twitter and check out his latest series on NATO over at TrueAnon: Episode 212: NATO (Part 1)
Special thanks to Casey Moore for the episode art and Dana Chavarria for the sound engineering!
Music: "Silent Motion" by Mock Orange
Comments
William Stearns
“We all live in local madnesses.” Wow, what a truth. I’d not heard of Peter Dale Scott before discovering your work, but he is a gem.
Ryan
Really amazing episode. I was curious if you can get more anecdotal stories about Peter's run-ins and friendships with intelligence. He mentions befriending a few in Poland. I've heard him mention that he hopes the CIA reads his books. I wouldn't be surprised if they are used in intelligence education. He also has mentioned that he was oddly sick during a JFK debate with Posner. It would be interesting to hear any other "spooky" things that have happened to him personally.
John McElroy
Enjoyed this episode, well done all the way around.
Aaron Good
Try this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlatelolco_massacre
Luke
what was the event in mexico city that prof scott references where 800 were shot in a plaza with machine guns? i couldn't make out what he said but it sounded like claduropo...
Aaron Good
In this episode, he talks about seeing Malcolm X speak in 1961 at the YMCA--because University of California would not let him speak on the campus.
Clifford Qualo
Where can I find Peter Dale Scott's take on Malcom X?
TzzZach
Still not over prof Scott admitting that he hit a wax pen recently. Not sure if there’s much room to ask him about his contemporaries in the the deep politics research field who talked of him glowingly. Was listening to a Mae Brussel podcast and she mentioned that she suspected one of professors Scott assistants who handled his index at one point was intelligence connected and admitted as much to Mae during a weird exchange..
Aaron Good
It has been recorded! It was stressful, but I think it turned out as well as these things can.
John McElroy
Thanks Team AE! Good luck with debate 👍🏼🔥
