American Exception
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Episode 84: Denouement: Allen Dulles, Sukarno, JFK, and G30S w/Greg Poulgrain
🕑 Added 2022-11-07 16:06:25 +0000 UTCAaron talks to the tireless and iconoclastic historian of post-colonial Indonesia, Greg Poulgrain. In this final part, they discuss how JFK, Dag Hammarskjold, and Sukarno were unable to stop Allen Dulles’ murderous grand strategy to turn Indonesia into world history’s most valuable neocolony—under imperial US auspices.
Greg Poulgrain teaches history at the University of the Sunshine Coast in Queensland, Australia. He is the author of The Genesis of Konfrontasi: Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia, 1945-65, The Incubus of Intervention: Conflicting Indonesia Strategies of John F. Kennedy and Allen Dulles, as well as the more recent JFK vs. Allen Dulles: Battleground Indonesia.
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for the sound engineering!
Music: "Old Man" by Mock Orange
[EDIT: I initially posted the wrong audio file]
Comments
Aaron Good
Short answer: The CIA is the mafia for the US empire/oligarchy. They do the work in these countries so that the oligarchy can plunder and exploit to the max. That's why the oligarchy created the CIA and why the CIA does what it does.
RT Happe
What I didn't quite gather ‑ due to the long term, convoluted nature of the machinations ‑ is the part the owners and execs notably of Freeport took in the early stages in order to get hold of the Indonesian resources later. Does the CIA do pro bono crime on behalf of US aligned capital in general, and the ultimate beneficiaries are determined subsequently by the invisible hand of the market (and their deftness at corruption)?
Luke
poulgrain's got a bit of an impish/yoda vibe
Aaron Good
Idk but try to refresh the Patreon page and then just down load the mp3 maybe?
Aaron Good
He was a CIA asset before his forces shot the President's plane, sparking mass killings in reprisal and eventually leading to Kegame's installation as basically a US puppet.
Jed S Bickman
I'm having trouble with the wrong audio file issue. My podcast player seems not to want to refresh and listening off patreon is hard on my phone. that's my complaint lol.
Himbo Slice
You get strong Mobotu vibes from Paul Kagame, has there been any reporting on his relationship with the US? It's hard to imagine he'd be in power for as long as he has without tacit US support, the way he has treated regions of the Congo would also suggest some kind of American approval
Aaron Good
fixed now...thanks!
drawkward
ya it's the same interview, part 1
NYCM&AHole
Is this a re-release of the Wednesday episode? I’m having strong deja vu
