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Episode 125: Parafascism and the Deep State (Part 2)
🕑 Added 2023-05-18 13:00:05 +0000 UTCAaron and Seamus discuss Ola Tunander’s seminal essay, “Democratic State vs. Deep State: Approaching the Dual State of the West.” The piece was included in the anthology Government of the Shadows: Parapolitics and Criminal Sovereignty in 2009. This episode is the second part of our Parafascism and the Deep State series focusing on classic works by Peter Dale Scott and Ola Tunander. Future episodes will include Scott and Tunander themselves.
Special thanks to Seamus McGuinness for producing the episode!
Music: “Roll Your Eyes” by Mock Orange
Comments
Rachel Winkel
Hi, as a leftist I think it's not that there's no left, but that there's now a fake left and no wide community of real left like me, because the US government erases all leftist communities. Like, I have no idea how to find or convene with other leftists. News sites have obviously been bought off by the fake left. But even if you could have a leftist group on FB or Reddit, it would be co-opted by bad faith actors and turned into a meeting place for the fake left!
Lacánvict
Thought this was interesting. The Wikipedia page for Alfred Herrhausen had been edited in June 2022 to include the fact that many people believe his assassination to have been carried out by GLADIO or CIA/NATO linked factions, and shortly later, an unregistered user edited the page to remove that section for "unreliable source" which was Larouche Pub. Ironically, they leave in the sentence that says the RAF admitted to the assassination, but the source link is broken. Then, they allowed someone to add a section in there about rumors of Putin being the handler of the RAF at the time of the assassination. The user who added the bit about Putin, unironically used to have "This user is not communist but supports communism" in their bio ten years prior but removed it, and added "This user is a Social Democrat" LOL I guess there will never be anything more social democrat in Germany than being tied at the hip with imperialism and fascism.
Gustave Courbet
Fascinating discussion. I’d be interested to hear how these historical events come to bear on contemporary American politics. The right in the US is daily decrying false flags and psyops from their largely fictionalized version of the deep state that they claim is attempting to demonize “real Americans”. So the question is: to what extent are these sorts of activities continuing and at whom are they being directed? There isn’t much of an American left to destroy…
