Rabbi Levertov Interview
🕑 Added 2023-10-24 17:37:08 +0000 UTCHere's the full thing for those curious.
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Davie Kravitz
Where the Torah Jews at? Zionism =/= Judaism
Muffin
Homie DEHUMANIZES out of compulsion. that’s crazy
Seiji
He said a lot of words for someone who denied answering most of channel 5's questions.
Danté Vasser
lmao oh no
Hearse song andthedicksgoinandthedicksgoout
This dude was a piece of shit it’s embarrassing that he’s been given a place of religious authority
Hearse song andthedicksgoinandthedicksgoout
How can someone be a religious leader and then say “it’s not my job to teach” like tf are you in charge of your religious sect then
Matt Hornbie
I wish intelligent people would accept your interview requests. It's always some dumbass that I can barely stand to hear talk.
Jackson Shaw-Culbs
They would be able to live peacefully with Jewish people if Hamas would stop attacking
Forest Cochrane
i honestly didnt have an opinion on alot of this til i saw channel 5 coverage of it. i grew up in oregon where a jewish neighbor is pretty rare, but this guy made me kinda uncomfortable. i will be looking into other rabbi opinion on this. death of innocent people especially children is fucking horrible. this guy has me kinda messed up though, he seems uncomfortable discussing this like he's not confident and it makes me uncomfortable. i dont see a resolution for this conflict and it's very sad. what a way of life. thanks for the work done reporting on this
Like this is the dude you pick to represent all Jews?? Bruh! I'm sure there were many Rabbis who could have provided much more balanced, and not to mention decently articulated or logical takes on any of the topics covered here.
Andrew, I love you. I love the work that you do. Your coverage of events lately has been of incredibly high quality. With that being said: why the hell did you let this bumbling idiot represent an entire people? The interview given by the professor was excellent. I thought he did a fantastic job, and that you did a great job by picking him. But seriously, why the hell did you pick this guy... He really makes an entire group of people look bad.
Vince O'Flynn
The victim complex is insane
Blazingbirdy
good point but jews don't hold the new testament to be valid (unless they are messianic)
boose
Love how he was like yeah we were promised this land!!!!! So its ok that we did all that horrible stuff in the first place!!!!! clown world we live in ngl
r
good until you you cut fuck you
Benjamin Siler
worded my thoughts so well ❤️
Benjamin Siler
Man you gotta be trolling. “Palestine is allowed to have its own place (Gaza)” there’s no way lmao
Noms Chompski
What an absolute monster
Ariana
pretty sure this guy thinks jews are superior race and religion. cappity cap cap
Will Simon
They have their land they are given. Palestine is allowed to have it's own place (Gaza), just with a closed border. And that land is a gift, from the people who have owned all that land, from the river to the sea, all throughout history. But it's not enough. Palestine wants to grab all of the land, and push anyone not Muslim out.
Valentin Rauschenbach
To the initial comment by Sean Farrell: as I stated in my previous comment, humanity and religions coexisted for a very long time. Obviously, wars were happening all that time, based on the religion differences as well; but those happening because of the religion were never so destructive, as when the concept of globalisation came forward. The most obvious example would be all the Crusades, which were initiated by church (!!!), not religion itself. So, let's differentiate: religion is a set of beliefs put together into a system; church is an institution claiming to control such system and the life around it. All the Crusades were initiated by church, not by the people believing in some gods. So I would draw the following conclusion: church as an institution is still more of an evil thing, because 1) it tries to control things globally and apply a unified set of rules, which always forces unnecessary sacrifices of local culture, 2) it does it badly - mostly because we as humanity failed to come up with working concept of governing institutions, and 3) it especially sucks because of the lack of transparency in the rationale (generally, why the f should I care about god saying some thing or another? Prove it to be useful, and then you don't need no god...), meaning that every church can manipulate religion and its followers into whatever subject it wants to pursue. The latter we saw in Crusades, in Germany during the rule of Nazis, in islamic states, in Israel, in Russia nowadays, hell, wherever
Valentin Rauschenbach
I doubt it was exactly religion what provided such frameworks. First of all, if anything, we know much more cases of religion restraining from developing art and philosophy. Secondly, beauty is very and very dependent not only on one's personal taste (which is just a subject to a mix of different traits coming from surrounding society), but most importantly on the state of the society itself, as one might say that beauty corresponds to the projection of beliefs and feelings onto an outer world, and those beliefs and feelings depend heavily on the society. Which brings me to the 3rd point: religion is with humans for such a long time, that one cannot properly distinguish between aspects of our life which it affected or not; put it simply, i believe it to be a sort of a chicken and egg problem.
Valentin Rauschenbach
It's quite interesting, how the rabbi avoids going into some topics, either intentionally (by saying so) or unintentionally - like portraying a hatred towards jews as something which appeared out of nowhere, just because arabs are like that. I wonder if this is a consequence of him doing his job as a preacher and hence feeling restrained even in slightest undermining of the current Israel ideology, or this is a psychological event based on an inner fear of destroying his own beliefs which are basically a major part of his life.
greg
it's stunning to me how zionists cant understand why people wont just give up their land without a fight when it's the same thing that they believe in
Ryan Shoemaker
I dont know man, religion has also provided frameworks for some of the most beautiful art and philosophy humans have ever participated in.
bigchiefcrazysmoke
Religion is based entirely on blind faith. Who has blind faith in the government?
jesse merkelson
actually article 20 of the is that ":The Islamic spirit is what should prevail in every Moslem society" Hamas will never accept any state of Israel. in fact in the original 1988 Hamas covenant their stated goal is to kill every jew in the world. There is a lot wrong with what you are saying i just don't have time to type all day. Hamas is not a nationalistic movement it is a religious' movement.
Will Simon
Meh. I'd argue the truest pandemic the world has ever seen is blind faith. Blind faith in religion, government, or psuedo (or government or religious sponsored) science.
Moriah
😭
Noel
Has he read the New Testament?
Levi Blair
He was playing the role of historian to reinforce his points, so yeah he should be held to that standard just like anyone else making claims on stuff like this.
Juno
…. Or maybe Palestinians turn to Hamas because the Israeli government is oppressing/killing them and taking their land? I’m not saying Hamas is a good organization. They are straight up terrorists. But the main reason this organization exists is due to Israeli oppression. I would hope there would be a chance to come to a peaceful resolution that doesn’t involve genociding Palestinians but war criminal Netanyahu has made that impossible.
Sean Farrell
I will never understand how someone can base their entire life off of old timey fairy tales that are just so wildly ridiculous. Religion is the worst pandemic the world has ever seen.
Buz Lee
Dude says "literally" a lot
AM G
The Hamas did this and many other things with the purpose to escalate the situation and get attention from the West. Insane how that works, but here we have people protesting on the streets "Free Palestine". Rabbi Levertov is absolutely correct, these people should protest for the hostages first of all, or be ashamed of themselves. Hamas is what the people choose, because they are brainwashed, in schools that the west payed for. Doesnt matter if they are kids if they got a rocket launcher and try to wipe the jews out of Israel.
Juno
As someone who isn’t very eloquent and has hard time expressing my opinions (especially when I’m passionate and knowledgeable on the topic) I can understand the rabbi being super flustered during an interview. However it just seems like he’s lumping Palestinians and Hamas into the same category. Just because you stand with Palestine 🇵🇸 doesn’t mean you support Hamas. More than half the Palestinian population are children. To just be so callous and say “oh well how do we know these casualties weren’t supporting Hamas” is kinda fucked. Especially hearing it from a faith leader.
Richard Springfield
Cetter Clieve it.
CoreyC
I recently discovered the writings of Dorothy Day, and learning about the Catholic Worker Movement. Almost enough to make a guy go back to church.
CoreyC
Whoa, let's not escalate the conversation here. No one said anything about 'expel all the Jewish people from the state of Israel', how about we take a million steps back. Article 20 of the Hamas constitution says a return to 1967 is the path to peace. 1967 is 20 years after the creation of Israel. Hamas is down with a two state solution. (note, not advocating for Hamas, just stating facts). There's two million people in the strip. Believe it or not, they're not a homogeneous mob. Just because some hardliners were willing to go the route of violence doesn't mean every Palestinian wants to take up arms. I can't remember who it was, but one of the people interviewed said something about Israel having tried to give peace a chance, but that didn't fix the issue. I'm not sure what 'peace' they think Palestine has experienced, but I feel like instead of a mandatory stint in the IDF, maybe Israeli citizens should experience a year living in the same conditions as those within Gaza. If the Israeli state wanted, it could improve living conditions for Gazans in many ways, without negatively impacting the lives of Israeli citizens. If Israel wanted, it could stop the expansion of illegal settlements (what does it matter if no new settlements have been allowed to set up shop if you just let the ones that are already there - the illegal ones - to just grow without sanction?) but it hasn't. From what I understand, it's basic crass politics at play - Netanyahu needs the support of politicians representing the illegal settlements, and other hard right factions - so he does what they want. Also, he's going to go to jail if he loses his position as president due to a fraud conviction? I might be getting that wrong though... Anyway, long point short, the state of Israel doesn't want to do anything of those things, cause it doesn't have to, and it's more politically expedient to just grind the Palestinians down. I'm not simping for Biden, but if the US hadn't told the Israelis to simmer down, I hate to imagine what would have happened. But, ya, if you're still here. To answer your original question - if Israel wants to just give all the land back, great, go for it, and people can figure out where they go after that. But given that the current political leadership in the Strip have provided a path to a two state solution, I think that for those Israelis impacted by a change back to 1967 borders, well, I guess they could just, move inside those borders assuming they're not given an option to stay and chill?
CoreyC
Given the strength of the rabbi's opinions on these matters, (flat out saying 'I can't understand why the people in Gaza haven't smartened up, and left already' - paraphrasing), I think it's fair to probe his understanding of the history of the area in question. He's the leader of his flock. He preaches from a pulpit (sorry, I don't know the correct terminology!). His words carry weight in all sorts of ways - there's nothing wrong with asking relevant questions. In fact, isn't that kind of what reporters do? I do agree video ended too abruptly - but happy with what we got! I was down for hearing more (context is everything). First video I've watched as a new Patreon member (long time viewer, first time Patreon subscriber). Super pumped for the year.
Brandon Oxendine
wondering the same thing! it just stopped
merit.rva
on top of that, his job isn't to be a historian. his job is to study the Talmud and teach its learnings. i wouldn't expect a priest to give me a full accurate history of how Christianity came to be.
merit.rva
seems like you cut him off.
merit.rva
no Jews though. Wonder why?
Josh Greer
Certified Custer
Jori Vajretti
Well, as a fellow poor white trash 27 year old who was raised Christian (poorly lol), I hope for a two state solution where no party continues to attack each other (looking at you Hamas + sympathizers), support Israel’s existence and right to defend itself. With a trans sister, gay family members, and Sephardic Jewish family members, I can’t in good conscience support Palestine as a culture because the Israeli’s allow for gay marriage and gender affirming care, while neither civilization in Gaza or the West Bank does. Call me biased because I am. I wish the Palestinians the best and I genuinely hope they survive Israel’s war against Hamas.
Sid Mullendore
I'm just one guy and I really don't have any answers, especially with how deep we are into this war. The ideal situation would be for all the ethnicities and faiths in the area to just coexist in their mutual holy land but none of them wanna do that so now we have this. The zionists were a fringe nationalist group of ATHEIST Jews mind you who hated God, and religious Jews didnt like them. They were just weird nationalist creeps. They were legitimized probably by the holocaust and they won their fascist ethno state. Ideally, they never would have got their fascist ethno state and the holocaust would have never happened and I mean I wouldn't have met my American Jewish fiance bc her grandma would have never come here but all this sicko mode shit wouldn't have happened. Israel is a theocratic fascist apartheid ethno state OBVIOUSLY and the West should have stayed out of it, and Hitler should have been aborted. We're just fucked now, as far as a 27 year old poor white trash autistic Christian anarchist can see lmao
Richard Springfield
I got you, Sid.
Jori Vajretti
Question for the thread. If Israel relinquished all of its land to the Palestinians (decolonized), where should the Jews go?
Sid Mullendore
Yr a real one. I'm autistic and I don't think primarily in language lmaooo bless u.
Richard Springfield
Christian: belief that Jesus of Nazereth had some great ideas. Anarchist: the belief that organizational bodies gatekeep unfettered human happiness, and need to be removed. Christian Anarchism: the belief that christian religious institutions have no place within the philosophies espoused by Jesus of Nazereth. Simply put, Jesus said the church can go get fucked in its neck, and Christian Anarchists still uphold that belief.
Richard Springfield
I have yet to see you look like you wanted to go full 55th Street on a custer more than you did in this video. I respect your journalistic restraint.
jah is mighty
Is this actually full? Cuts off at 30’…
Richard Springfield
He needsh to Shlo down a bit . . .
Sid Mullendore
He was a Palestinian Jew yes. That used to be a thing, 2000 years ago. Maybe still is sometimes, idk lol.
Karen Vano
I am grateful not to be named Shlomo.
Jori Vajretti
But wasn’t Yeshua Jewish?
Sid Mullendore
It's an interfaith bible study too.
Jori Vajretti
Ah. Christians?
Sid Mullendore
Lol I don't. I don't even go to church. Me and a couple friends have a Bible study anyone's invited.
Sid Mullendore
Palestine isn't only Muslim it has a healthy Christian minority and it is the continuation of the original Christians.
Moriah
I googled Christian anarchist and one of the first pics is Jesus with a machine gun. Do you guys have any conventions?
Jori Vajretti
Muslims are the original followers of Yeshua?
Sid Mullendore
As a Christian anarchist, it blows mind that the majority of people who claim they follow the teachings of Yeshua think this oppression is justified. Especially when a healthy percentage of those they oppress are the original followers of Yeshua.
Chicken Butt
Literally
Moriah
Damn, religion is wild. I forget the large majority of the world operates based on religious beliefs.
Cole Krueger
My initial takeaway is this guy needs to lay off the stimulants.
Carlos Gonzalez
first