Post "Dunkin' Donuts Workers Strike " by "channel5" from patreon

w4tty

Cant they just eliminate her job instead? If you never want to advance yourself into the white collar based on keeping your union protections-- wouldnt it just be easier for the company to eliminate your job via a machine replacement?

Bigdickbandit

not an ounce of critical thought from "trythinking"

Bigdickbandit

are you stupid? the entire point of a union is the ability to collectively bargain through the usage of strikes and work stoppages. Were you under the impression that joining a union is some sort of magical kryptonite to a corporation, where they just have to concede to your demands without any sort of pressure or effort from the workforce?

Zac Haffey

I'm guessing you're not a fan of capitalism, so what do you think comes after it? Or I guess what financial system would you replace it with?

Paris Gore

Agree. 2x cameras one wide one tight, shoot d-log and color grade correctly. One of the cameras which was shown filming the Anachronistic person is way off.

kh

how did you read everything i wrote and manage to come to the conclusion i was talking specifically about this person? goof

Moondog Lightnin

They want us to stop talking to each other

w4tty

So the punchline is that union protections do nothing

hogofwar

well i can tell you dont like automation, but it is my belief that there is an abundance of resources in this world for all but we are tricked into thinking we have to kill eachother for it, over time technology and automation beats corruption, it is one of the things I know is improving everyones quality of life

hogofwar

im not sure what my comment was but u seem like a dick and barkn up wrong tree, I'm all for abortions and i like donuts....

Ariel Cal

If you are working at Dunken you are not trying hard enough. Specially now days. And if she is not comfortable speaking about her art in public then maybe she is not ready to make a career out of it.

Zemer Aharonoviz

Why would kids want to do any of those things? NONE of those make 50 an hour? I am an industry scientist and I can't break 40 in Seattle at 35yo. I am not the only one. Anyone over the age of 45 and many below that age are just fucking delusional about the state of the world.

A.M

"Wage slave job" what an oxymoron. This person gets paid And gets to go home and can chose to leave their job without without any repercussions or having to pay any form of reparation stop the nonsense. If he wants another job he should go find one that's a better use pf time than protesting automation which actually makes his job easier.

Manuel Ruiz

The last thing I want when I'm travelling is to have to deal with someone at a counter asking me questions about what I'm doing. Just give me the coffee and sandwich and let me get on the flight bro. I've already had carry a bunch of luggage around, stand in a long line, be hassled by the TSA, and now I just want to chill until it's time to squeeze into my shitty seat for the next 8 hours. Just let me relax. Wynona needs to grow up and figure out their priorities beyond slanging coffee for a living and then complain that the system is keeping them down.

Loren

how the fuck is UBI "what comes after" capitalism? UBI would not need to exist if it were not for capitalism

Loren

is it doxxing when someone says their own name into a microphone during an interview?

JG

they need to link up with the starbucks unions

trythinking

boooo get off the stage

trythinking

Oh wow yes your original comment was so sophisticated of an attempt to dunk on me, I never realized until you pointed it out! Wow. Super smart of you. I believe I replied "ironic comment" because YOU trying to spin your false beliefs by claiming you believe facts was hilarious and ironic. Spreading ignorance and hate = speaking obvious facts. I dont know why people decided to redefine "speaking facts" with the words "ignorance and hate" but since youre using that definition I guess all good, so long as you know it translates to "speaking simple facts".

R Wri

I mean, your comment is totally irrelevant to the story. You just want to spread your ignorance and hate, for not clear purpose. BTW if it is perfectly clear what someone has said, but instead of supporting your argument you attack their grammar, it shows that your original argument wasn't strong to begin with. I think you may have missed the joke in my comment though. It's obvious that your critical thinking skills are quite poor, so you should 'trythinking' yourself ;)

Jake Lake

People that work unskilled jobs still need to eat food and have shelter buckaroo. Now a days many of them even need to provide for a child they weren't allowed to abort. Lol. You can tell that you grew up with very little limitations. Probably in a nice neighborhood with more whole foods than dunkin donuts

Colin

She has no passion for her wage slave job at Dunkin Donuts? That's not too surprising... and why are you being so aggressive about your perception of her level of confidence in her art? I would also probably be nervous to discuss my art in this setting in her position, even if I were confident about it. People can be very hateful.

Colin

I'm disappointed that Andrew doxxed her if she didn't consent to her full name being released. Seems like a recipe for harassment

trythinking

and you are even more dumb than that!

James Hayes

girl?

Marcin

Heh, I wonder what your comment tells about whole group of people who have this amazing skill to present history of an individual, projecting own mental diarrhea on others, after watching 5 minute clip.

Virginia Hanna

I'm kinda obsessed with the nihilistic anarchist person. They are the perfect character for a movie or sitcom. I love them.

Zac Haffey

Idk what that means, so managed capitalism?

kh

the girl with the black hair is really the perfect illustrative example of what late stage capitalism, doom scrolling social media, taking anti-psychotics + SSRIs for years and allowing your psyche to become apathetic and submissive does to someone

DonettaTrump

🎯 9:10-9:40. And 9.5mins of the symptoms.

Tyler Barton

okay is Ground News powered by AI?

Todd Jensen

I bet this pisses of some billionaire shadow members of the nwo/world economic forum. The out comes will be this: the corporations will give you a mediocre compensation that will satisfy just enough but will also kick the can further down the road, they begin to look like they are willing to work but they are simultaneously, waiting you guys out and then when you throw the towel in, they then will not hire new workers. They will probably market you a good reason for doing it which will resonate with some and divide others, starting another micro culture war that will no doubt become top 3 culture wars in no time (by 2030), finally direct the blame from the original focal point. This is the outcome of you vs corp, they can play the long game, but we all need to work.

Ariel Cal

These employers are mentally checked out. Specially the black hair chick. She has giving up, it shows . She has no passion and even she has no confidence in her art.

James Bell

you are dumb as hell

b

As Dem, I want to distance our party as far as possible from that "anarchist" and others like them. I am for taxing the rich, corporate tax hikes, socialized medicine, and all that good stuff, but I am TIRED of being associated with these BUMS.

b

I'm sorry, was it your dream as a child to be a Dunkin' employee (or any Corpo fast food establishment) when you grew up? Do you have ZERO ability to learn and train yourself to do anything besides server coffee? Theres so many Amazon and fast food workers upset at automation. Except when you ask them how they like the job, as they did in the video, they'll tell you that they hate it and that it sucks, and that the only good thing is the people they work with. So why are they fighting against automation? Because they actually want the job? Or because automation is taking unskilled jobs, and these employees are faced with the fact that they are unskilled and unmotivated to do any jobs that are above entry level ones?

Cooper Carrasco

For me , ai can save people so much time they can afford to lose some customers to it — in some disciplines — for now at least. I met up with a guy to work on his logo and he told me he tried AI logo generators but didn’t like them. I would not hesitate AI for an asset for him — IE generic van image to mockup car decals. It’s like e-commerce was bad for some small businesses but it’s also really good for some small businesses

Brandon armstrong

Who the fuck is still going to Dunkin' Donuts! Hahah

aintnoprophet

Definitely feel for them in a lot of ways...but not looking past being anything other than a Dunkin Donuts drone is not going to help anything.

A Kiwi

Such a bizarre blanket statement. How does a society even exist without "workplaces" or "places of power." Not even sure what she means by that bc that could include something as innocent as a post office.

Tyler LeBlanc

Nah

Jahvin Bowman

Her mental fortitude is non-existent.

Carlos

Winona seems like such a nihilist, which is in all fairness probably a symptom of their situation but come on.. aspirations to do better outside of working a 9-5 are the *only* way to get ahead in this country. Whether thats leveraging your passions to become an illustrator, learning/creating a way to leverage your skills, etc. Thinking thats impossible is part of the mentality that will keep them working for near minimum wage forever.

cafighteria

So if entry-level jobs (+ benefits) go away there seems like a 0% chance that there won't be a rise in crime and violence. Support unions wherever they are left. Call them out when they aren't supporting the workers. Unions really do seem like the obvious solution though. Great reporting.

Justin Wolander

As in being unemployed?

arĉi

considering employee is doing their job, why should business care?

Dylan zawicki

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Sebastian

Wtf are you talking about lol

trythinking

you are welcome to donate and cover the living costs while people pursue different careers and stuff. But do not ask everyone else to pay.

trythinking

just stop voting democrat and we will solve these things. Dumb ass liberals have voted in most of our modern problems. Mostly liberal women.

trythinking

Most of us disagree with you.

trythinking

Cope harder, then cry some more. MOST people disagree with you. Also you mean "you're" not "your". Next time you feel the urge to leave a stupid comment, maybe learn how to use proper grammar and spelling because you are making it very obvious how stupid you are and no one wants to read them.

Clownfucker3000

we're already in what comes after capitalism

eeee y

"make orders bigger, quicker and labour efficient" someone’s making more money, and it’s not the workers. that’s the point.

Richard Smith

Also, his point that for every job you lose to automation, you gain jobs on the other end is wrong. Automation only succeeds if it scales. Not only does it have to replace more jobs than it takes to create, but you create it once, and it can replace more and more jobs over time.

Richard Smith

“I am an anarchist. I believe that workplaces and places of power cause violence, and that’s all they do.” What business wants employees like this?

eliobrid

this :(

Matthew

This. The constant zooming for effect may have made sense early on, but it's pretty amateurish at this point

Alex Ezorsky

Can I make a camerawork suggestion? Just use two of the same camera in auto settings (hell 2 iphones would be great) and just have one camera person always set to do a static medium shot and the other doing the creative zooms. I understand you've got a cool guerilla indy vibe but its getting super rough and the wildy different color correction keeps throwing me out of the story. Im a huge fan, love the reporting.

Mike Caffee

Funkin Donuts should not exist. Horribly wasteful business AND FOR WHAT?? shit Donuts and shit coffee

Bronos

Pursuing illustration is tough but it’s not insane. People from the entire class spectrum have pursued it. Perhaps with the encroachment of AI it could get more difficult. But if you are remotely good at marketing yourself, and you have talent and work ethic, you can definitely make a living doing it. You can become well off even. This person hopefully meets more people with different perspectives. Respect to Andrew for throwing them some tentative suggestions at the end there.

Zac Haffey

In the context of AI displacing the workforce to a degree which breaks our current economy

Zac Haffey

We need to be talking about what comes after capitalism fr I have no fuckin clue but it would be cool to see you guys delve into UBI and coasean analysis. Could find a prominent Econ conference/symposium to interview people in that field. All love thank you guys for the content 🙏🏼💚

Joseph Sanchez

I love this! We can recognize that he struggles of this class are interconnected, we just dont get each others struggles in the right way. Organize !!

Ryan

Tough to be a professional illustrator when you’re homeless

Joseph Meyer

Will say fuck them fast food kiosk they suck ass

Josh H

Boomer who was proud to serve in nam, I knew his take would be horrible.

Jay Gaunt

The last line, though. Bravo

hogofwar

robots a good thing, humans get to do less.

Ryan Roddy

Sorry to be the off topic guy, but please get to New York for an activity on Mangione arrest. But maybe there won’t be any til trial

Lee Whalen

While I want to be understanding, I find it difficult to sympathize with these striking Dunkin' employees. Their presentation isn't helping the labor movement's cause. The shift toward AI and automation seems inevitable if both management and customers are open to it. Speaking as someone who frequents corporate fast-food chains like Dunkin', I'm indifferent between using a kiosk or interacting with staff – I just want my order to be accurate. Their argument about preserving the customer experience isn't persuasive to me. Additionally, having a self-proclaimed anarchist who shows no interest in workplace improvement and openly dislikes their job undermines their message. This is simply market evolution at work, much like how we didn't preserve horse-and-buggy manufacturing in the face of automobiles.

Nina Mcmunn

Raw dog capitalism is negotiating with your employer, nowhere in the rule book does it say employers set the price. That being said don't get a job in a dying industry

Azrec

Oh wow well I apologize I didn’t realize I was in the presence of a ✨college graduate✨ and everybody knows completing college gives you a free pass to be a huge asshole. You’re right though. Nobody with a degree has ever been blindsided by factors outside of their control and needed help.

Matheus Bauer

Winona sounds like a basket case.

chef sam

nah dude, i worked my ass of since i was 15, got a full ride to college, earned a degree in a skill i’m both passionate in and is in demand, and i actively look to the future and note any potential for market disruption and adjust my sails accordingly. you do not my situation, you don’t know how fortunate i am or not. i earned my shit. “We in the easiest time to become a millionaire... don’t be a weirdo let’s go!!!” -Meek Mill

Azrec

You're not immune to helplessness my friend. Even skilled labor jobs are replaced in the name of efficiency. 20 years ago, data sorting was a "skilled labor" job that required a degree and now its entirely automated. People who spent 4 years studying, and countless hours sorting through boxes of xerox papers had to be retrained and relocated. Cutting Keys used to be "skilled labor". Shoemakers, metalsmiths, carpenters, the list goes on and on. The ruling class sees people as disposable and has a vested interest in keeping alive the narrative that "nobody wants to work anymore" because it keeps the working class fighting amongst ourselves rather than awakening to the reality of the problem. But hey, if shitting all over people less fortunate than yourself is your thing that's between you and god. Have fun being a miserable prick <3

chef sam

the mentality of some of these people will never fail to make me laugh. throw any of them in a time machine and they wouldn’t survive in a single other generation. unskilled labor has never been better compensated than it is right now. if you don’t want to be automated, maybe learn a skill that is in demand that can’t be done by a robot. OR humanize your service to the point where you cannot be replaced. i couldn’t care less if i speak to a human while ordering a number 1 combo, and majority of the time the person taking my order doesn’t want to be talking to me either. seriously, i see why my generation gets clowned by everyone else. if this was ancient times, these types of people would probably complain about how hard it is to forage for food and just starve to death.

chef sam

welcome to america mate, where people love to hear themselves speak but can’t muster anything but complaints and regurgitated talking points

Kacper Pers

lol buncha bums

Jamesdean00

1ST OFF I HATE ROBOTS (SEX ROBOTS NOT INCLUDED) I UNDERSTAND WORKING YOUR 1ST OR 2ND JOB TO EARN SOME CASH & INDEPENDANCE BUT ONCE THE REALITY OF HAVING BETTER TOLIET PAPER & A RELIABLE CAR TO TRAVEL SETS IN "A PERSONS" AMBITION NEEDS TO KICK IN & HUSTLE MORE FOR BETTER OPPORTUNITES. PERSONALLY I KNOW MY ANCESTORS (CALL BACK TO THE ARIZONA NATIVE TRIBE EPISODE) DIDNT ACHIEVE THEIR HEIGHTS FOR THEIR OFFSPRING TO JUST CHILL @ THE CRIB & COMMENT IN ALL caps TO GET THEIR LIKES UP. YES FIGHT THE CORPORATIONS BUT ALSO WORK HARD & LEVEL UP BY EDUCATION OR PERSONAL SKILL BUIDLING. HELP BUILD UP THE YOUNGER GENERATION BY EXAMPLE & COACHING & THE STEP YOURSELF UP SOME MORE. YOU DONT HAVE TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG/CORPORTATIONS BUT YOU DO HAVE TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THIS MF PROFIT.

Spy Emerson

So good. Thx ch 5

Daniel

This entire video is exactly why they are being replaced lmao

Lee B

Kys buddy

Billy Goddin

Eat my cum. Scum.

Billy Goddin

We will, the people, burn this whole place down someday and we will rebuild. Magats suck me through the backside you Sally fks.

Lee B

Never said I was cheering on the corporations. I cheering for the 'pronoun freak' to fail and put the blame on 'the white man'

Collin Baldetti

I'm sure you're gonna be laughing all the way to the kiosk that doesn't work and is your only option at every other business in a decade. Why do you cheer on companies making your services worse for the sake of their profit alone and at the expense of the workers? They aren't laughing with you, they're laughing at you.

Sebastian

I did offer a solution. She should quit and apply herself to art. You must be illiterate and need more education, like Winona. Also it’s quiet down. Not quite down. Go back to school.

mixlr

where else should they work man. how do you support yourself while learning a new trade. all those people in steel or coal - should they have seen their jobs being lost to overseas automation? it’s the same thing. a jobs a job

MincedMeatte

Sad to see Winona has been so beaten down by the realities of modern living that being an illustrator feels so unachievable and non-viable. Living in a much smaller country than the US, the sense of hopelessness in the working class over there is palpable in clips like this; it's really sad. Everyone deserves a fair shot to do what they're passionate about but there are as many people in LA as there are in my entire country (of roughly the same landmass as the continental USA), there are simply not enough meaningful opportunities for that amount of people. Separating passion and work is a lovely sentiment but when you need to work 40+ hours a week to survive, spending time on your passion can start to sound exhausting pretty quickly

Lee B

This is kinda hilarious, you work at a Dunkin Donuts, of course automation is going to take your jobs. Maybe you shouldn't be asking for a tip on a donut and drip coffee.

Adam Dev

that end cut was absolutely savage

NeverMetTheGuy

Even at the airports they're trying to get us to print our own tickets, tag our own bags, and do everything except load the bag ONTO the conveyer belt. Never thought I'd have something reasonable in common with an anarchist. However, at the same time, there's WAY too many shitty employees at some of these types of places, which justifies mechanization.

Snarpsta

Exactly this Mitchell. That was my whole point and I believe the point of what Andrew asked her as well!

Mitchell Sanders

Pick it up as a side hustle and develop it while working full time. Its not a physically demanding hobby/possible money making venture

Gaige Cooper

All I read from this comment is complaining and not offering a solution. You even admit yourself there is no money to be made in making art so why risk your livelihoods to be a homeless artist? To that point also I am sure she has this job for one, to live, and two, to provide and income for her hobbies and things of interest. She also mentions at the end of the video how she is apart of a union so I would quite down about her not offering a solution. She is working class apart of a working class movement if anything she as more in common with you than any big wigged CEO. My great grandfather used to be a pump boy, had pension and everything, it was a simple and easy job though so did he not deserve it? Stop using the really lazy argument of "Just work harder" and pull your head out of you ass and realize people like Winona are on your team and the system is collapsing and failing.

Snarpsta

Ok cool. I don't even disagree with your sentiment. But I think that's totally irrelevant to the point made in the video, which is if you're unhappy with your station in life maybe explore other opportunities or avenues to make money.

Gaige Cooper

That would be awesome if our system wasn't literally built on the back bone of greed and a piece of paper. You are not truly free when you do not know where your next meal is coming for or if you'll have enough hours to survive the next two weeks. When you are not free you are also creatively not free. I make music, is it my full time job? No, and it would be unrealistic for me to drop everything for it. Being an artist is an oxymoron in a capitalist society.

Snarpsta

I agree. I've heard it's extremely competitive as well. I'm not suggesting they should stop their job to become an artist. I'm saying if she's so unhappy with her state of life/income maybe she should entertain other ideas and see what that looks like

Quinten Peasley

Yeah, I’m still not sure that guy was listening.

Elliot

it kinda is insane to stop your only means of income to be an artist. it sounds like she needs the job to survive

Snarpsta

Jesus you're obsessed. Keep that shit to yourself. Nobody cares. Or maybe "try thinking"

Snarpsta

David, kind of feels like they were just trying to show what they're wearing. Trying to give you a stronger vibe of what kind of person they are. I didn't feel that bit was out of place at all... But that's just IMO

Snarpsta

I hope she figures her stuff out... But shutting down any mention of doing something different and getting a career is really short sited

Snarpsta

I'm sorry but that anarchist person was silly.... "Why don't you try to work as an illustrator?" "NO that's Insane! 😡"

Pat

“I am an anarchist” you don’t say

Nervous Babbs

LOL As a service worker THE LAST THING I WANNA DO IS TALK TO A CUSTOMER! They some extroverts. I really wanna work from home haha. AND TO ADD I ALSO DONT WANNA TALK TO YOU AS A WORKER! CALL MY NAME GIVE ME MY DRINK. THANKS,BYE. NIETHER OF US WANNA BE HERE LOL

Mm

Really getting “fly off the wall” documentary vibes from the videography.

Kodey Armstrong

feel like some people are kinda reaching for points, change is inevitable

Kodey Armstrong

this is really interesting to me as i live in australia and work at mcdonald’s. We’ve had self serve kiosk machines for 8+ years now depending on the state. The “goal” of the kiosks are to make the orders bigger, quicker and labour efficient. however there still is the same amount of crew on as there would be if we didn’t have those kiosks. depending on the store, you might be cutting a couple people max

Jadē Rodrigues

The first step out of a hole is often the most expensive one. That is the catch 22. It creates a working class - which are needed to keep the price of products low - for that of people of a higher class. There never really has been such a thing as racism per se, it's been classism under a different name. 'Sucking the blood of those less economically privileged'.

Nathan Taylor

Maybe just let them be androgynous? You don't have to stick labels on people.

Sebastian

Winona sounds like the most entitled person ever. One hand, expects pension from a job that takes the lowest form of ability to do and yet hates the job. Why would anyone want to employee or purchase anything from you? I get it. I worked those jobs too. But if you’re working service jobs as a career that’s on you. You can move on to something else. Clearly though this person has no interest when confronted with this opportunity. Andrew basically asks/advises Winona to work as an artist which does not provide a lucrative income most of the time but at least you can try and do something that might bring you some joy. But no, like most people in this world Winona rejects this opportunity in favor of complaining and offering no solution.

Dopameanie

Kinda sounds like none of them actually understand what they're talking about. Every single one of them is completely self interested and ignorant of the more objective reality of the situation. Just a bunch of victims that are all convinced they have it worse and are entitled to equal outcomes.

Apple sauce

Wish I went on strike when i worked there ong everyone there sucked.

May Painter

yeah she isn't the most eloquent about her points, but i feel for her. she drops some crazy one liners even still

OSA Legend

It’s crazy how out of touch some people can be, 7:50 wouldn’t mind starting a new job as a carpenter or plumber at 50$ an hour. Not even most engineers would start at that.

Armadillo

We're living in a world where oligarchy is further gripping our necks, strangling the working class - yet you care about how someone is dressed. You've fallen for the grift my friend. Get your head out of the dirt.

Hunter

It’s pretty interesting how a person could have a mindset like that. I don’t understand it

duckduckgoose

trythinking - third mention you've posted now, all spread out over the hour the videos been up. got someone on your mind?

rmt

when you next feel the urge to leave a heinous comment maybe do some self reflection or treat yourself to something you enjoy because your making it very obvious how miserable your life is and no-one wants to share it with you.

DW

Apparently there IS some confusion here. This story (titled: "Dunkin' Donuts Workers Strike") is about Dunkin' Donuts workers who are going on strike. Hope that clears things up.

trythinking

oh thats a dude for sure

trythinking

thats gotta be a he

trythinking

Ironic criticism

MrBrown

🖤So much love for Winona. I hope she gets a break and does some art. God damn, it's hard for working people these days.

R Wri

Ironic username.

trythinking

why was that weird guy trying to wear his hair like a girl or sound like a girl. its obvious he is male lmao. The stereotypical gender confused anarchist.