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RE: Trailer Trash 60, 60 pt 4

🕑 Added 2024-10-28 13:15:28 +0000 UTC

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NondescriptGamer

In 1998, you couldn't just invest in a company like you can today. I don't know what all it takes, but it certainly takes more than a Robinhood account an $100. It's a multiple-thousand-dollar minimum investment. She's also a minor; she can't just go open a bank account, let alone an investment account or retirement account. Depending on the bank, she may not even have enough money for the minimum deposit to open an account.

NondescriptGamer

Multi-CD installers were not as common as multi-floppy installers, but they existed.

Cano Mendez

Absolutely sensible and in-character response from Casey considering what she knows about Tabby here. Also a cool metatextual nod to the reader, indicating that the story isn't focused around time travel shenanigans, tomfoolery, or chicanery, and instead is focused on character growth.

576QAM

Bush beat Gore in November, 2000, less than 2 years from the probable current date in the story.

576QAM

I'm SO, SO ready for the post arm cast Tabitha narrative

576QAM

I can't imagine a use for a PC with 2 CD trays except making bootleg CDs. Matthew's dad probably wouldn't appreciate that activity ;) However, 2 floppy slots would be normal.

Sean

I like Tabitha talking about the future. I just think it's a bit of a volatile thing to do in 1998 since the most you can do to prove it is talk about movies or tragedies. I fully expect her to get into fights with her friends after 9-11. Also I like the way Casey went about this, like she wanted to connect with Tabitha and reassure her they'd be friends even without the future stuff but that just makes me think it's going to be all the stranger for her in a few years.

Just Dave

I like the nostalgia and the talk of the future, but deep down it hurts because Tabs puts down pieces but never puts them together. She knows about ipods, but doesnt invest in apple. She grew old as a millenial, but doesn't use the time value of money to get something for the future, s and p 500 at least She got money, but didn't even put it in a bank account, investment account, retirement account. As written, Tabs choices, or non choices, are putting her right into the same place she was in before, like i fear all of us would be, the same, just colored a bit different. It gives the story a touch of sadness, deep down, because while I am different, would I be really different, deep down? But that's why I read this story, it hits in the feels.

Kuro_Neko

For the record, I really enjoy Tabby going on about the future.

Jeanie6754

Thanks for the story, I really enjoyed this part. Hopefully 🤞 everything goes well for you. Try to get some rest and relax, gotta fuel your body you know.

Undead Writer

Thanks for the chapter! Glad your feeling better!

Erlost

Agreed, but we’re going to need one hell of a time skip for that to happen, unless a more near event comes up that Tabitha suddenly remembers.

jthrr

I recall a lot of the early internet being painfully slow even on high-speed connections (at college), too — some of it likely because it was hosted by amateurs, or by companies who didn't know how much users would value fast response / rendering.

jthrr

Same about RR! But it'd be fine to use AO3 or another current platform, just not the one publishing *this* story, imo

Mundane

I was online in the early 90s and thinking back on how I could literally wait hours for a download or even watch the screen draw itself it would be crazy to have to go back to that. As always your characterization and voice is so well done. The contrast in reactions is all very believable and interesting. I can't wait for the big jar jar reveal.

semon

"Some readers find it fascinating, some find it infuriating, or a total chore to read through." - well i belong to the fascinated faction. I have read an watched a bunch of return in time stories. And your version is one of the best! I also read the well written interaction between teens stuff. But i always wait for the Return-From-The-Future dialogue!

Kirrocen

So that translates down to about 1 kilobyte/second/student? Definitely less than 10kb/sec/stu, assuming between 1,000-10,000 students per district.

Stuart Thwaites

Northwest England had crappy internet all the way up to mid 2000s

Cat Cat

Ah! Amazing, thank you so much! My one nitpick is that hearing royalroad pulls me out of it— there’s no reason it should particularly; it makes sense for Tabitha to think about but the meta kills me a bit. Otherwise, love the interaction with Casey; I really enjoy the speculation into how others would take Tabitha’s story and I love Casey’s conclusion; it’s both sensible and compassionate while still being somehow very teenagey. Really really lovely. Glad to hear the teeth stuff are doing better!

Kelan

I like these types of chapters but what im really waiting for is when some of the things she talks about actually happen. Like Bush beating Gore in the 2000s and the controversies surrounding that, tech being released, media being released, tragedies that will happen etc.

Toodles McGhee

I got curious and went out to the barn and looked at that first Pentium system of mine (yup, still have it...) - it has a 4GB hard drive.

Thomas Stewart

I'm old school, I got my first email address in '90, spent the late 90s at a software startup in Redmond, surrounded by former MS guys. One worked there all the way to Windows 1, another wrote the time zone picker in Win 95 where you just clicked the map, until it was pulled because of a dispute between India and Pakistan over the time zone of the Kashmir region. He was salty for *years* for that--I mean, how many legal copies of Windows did Pakistan buy during that period? I also know the name of the manager responsible for Comic Sans.

Toodles McGhee

I was on the Internet ahead of the curve just a tiny bit, had my own home connection in 1998. Thing about the Internet: it's only a part of our lifestyle now because it has nearly instantaneous content; back then it had neither content nor was it instantaneous for anything. There were always multiple versions of any pics on a website, so that you had a blob of color that loaded with the text, then a VERY low-res version, and then a higher-res version that would load in the background while you read and eventually you'd get to see them - SOP for me was to read the article, then scroll back up and see if any of the pics looked worth waiting for the high-res version. The Internet at that point was still very BBS oriented, moving more towards chat rooms, because that was the only way to interact real-time. Computers themselves were just barely able to play back video files in real-time - if you had a Pentium, hopefully with MMX. But most still had 286, mostly 386, some 486 at that time. And the monitors were svelt compared to the TVs...which were all CRT as well. And a 40GB harddrive was wealth and splendor. 32MB RAM was upscale (I splurged to get 64).

FortySixtyFour

About 6 - 10 mbps but expect that to be shared across multiple computers. So blindly fast (compared to dialup) not so much compared to any modern speeds.

FortySixtyFour

"feels like everyone involved would be able to say ok no point in arguing" That would be the absolute least realistic thing I could write. We're even in an election year, c'mon

Gopard

I mean it may just be that those things very really shitty in the US but some things tabitha said were straight up not true right? Lets ignore how someone who used Windows ALL THEIR LIFE can NOT have noticed Windows 8&10 the system bombarded you with pop ups "want to update to the newest windows iteration" ALL the time lol... The thing about printers... Like WTF??? She was talking about as if no personal printers were EVER used not just "in these couple of years" (which I would agree with but I'm pretty sure I specifically checked wasn't what she said in her rant?) after the early 2000s it was absolutely normal to own a printer... especially for anyone working with pcs redularly BC they may need to print something at home and for school this is even more true that students would want to print out stuff at home or even where expected to do so (in which case going to a copy shop is an extremely annoying chore) in germany even "Fax" was relatively well used for a couple of years... (Like the government offices still want people to use them lol). Honestly I would like Tabitha to just tell her friends when they go "well I can't really believe you" "ok then don't just stop asking me about it and wait for a couple of month ok?" For Casew it would be starwars and perhaps seeing Tabitha type and for Elena wouldn't Avenascence be almost certain proof? It just feels like everyone involved would be able to say "ok no point arguing about it lets just wait a short while and see". Well if anyone goes "No unless you admit its all a lie you invented I can't get over this" then it would only be sad that they weren't a real friends period.

Alex C

Love it for the character and plot building. I doubt the story is going to go through all the following decades where everyone gets to be all holy shit it was all true. So it's really just picturing the next year or few and how the doubts start setting in and the group dynamic.

WarStrider72

Huh, Casey is really Tabitha's Yoda!

Kirrocen

Extremely curious to know what the 1995 (Kentucky Information Highway 1) standard for high-speed internet was. Google tells me 2013-2025 (KIH 3)is 100kb/student/s, which is on the order of, what, gigabytes/second across a whole district? Maybe a few hundred megabytes/second?

Orthen

Thank you for the new part! I am among the people that really like the Tabitha-rables-about-the-future sections. I'm wondering if she manages to convince anybody else besides Alicia in the near future.

Linkneo5

Haha that makes sense. I wasnt doubting it, though. My small Canadian town always seeme to be a couple years behind the US tech-wise, especially for infrastructure like internet lines. :)

FortySixtyFour

Well, "hi speed" for '99. That would have meant like 6mbps, not modern "hi speed" which is over 200mbps. It's all relative!

Linkneo5

High speed internet back then? I think my school had just gotten dialup and aside from the newly minted IT dept, none of the teacher even knew how to work the mouse lol

prentice barry

man, reading this part brought back memories of my own experiences with early internet, i never had internet until i was in my teens in the early-mid 2000's, and it was dialup, parents didn't believe the internet was a thing to invest in and stubbornly refused to entertain the thought my brothers and i knew what we were talking about, we didn't even get basic broadband until i was 19 and i had to set up an account and pay for it myself

Too Much Sanity May Be Madness

Thanks for the chapter! I'm loving the retrospective of the late-90s Internet.

WarStrider72

Thanks for the update boss!


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