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Development rumors.

🕑 Added 2021-06-03 16:11:26 +0000 UTC

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vctyipn

Whether the update will be released at the end of the month

Forty9erfan

Is the update still on track to be released by the end of the month?

Thepickofdestiny

Definitely curious what goes on in Jacks mind, excited!

PaddyOFurniture

But it works.

GoHawks1840

That is involved

PaddyOFurniture

If you think that will work best. That seems to ... um ... OK, I give. As I understand it you are suggesting that the Jack POV scenes with decisions be not be optional but mandatory. No default progress via corruption.

PaddyOFurniture

I've got to start reading that book on Python.

Evgeny Balo

On the contrary. I propose to remove the ability to choose to look some scenes from Jack's POV or not and use this option by default. So Jack's decisions will be Jack's decisions (with the ability to choose for the player), but developers won't have to worry about the variability took the player this POV option or not and about auto-scoring of decisions depending on Jack's level of corruption if not. Like there is a Sam's tree with an inner Jack's tree, but without a fork in front of this inner tree.

Evgeny Balo

You can enable a dev console: Save, if you wish (optional) Close the game Navigate to the WHT Install Folder Navigate to \Renpy\Common\ folder, and open 00Console.rpy with any text editor. Find the line that reads: config.console = False Edit line to read: config.console = True Save 00Console.rpy Run the game, loading a save file if you wish. Press [Shift] + o or d to launch the editor console. Then type: bablo=XXX. Press [Enter].

GoHawks1840

Hoping for cheat codes. Especially for the money

GoHawks1840

A world without big tits is very very sad

PaddyOFurniture

Also, a lot of the fun is the fact that OUR goals aren't the same as JACK'S goals;)

PaddyOFurniture

As I understand it you are suggesting that to streamline the programming that the Jack's POV stories be the results of decisions in Sam's decision tree and we just see the results of those decisions. There are merits to that but they're going to go with this for now. We'll see. As for the 'real boy' thing that was more a joke at the expense of Pinocchio than any attempt at a serious discussion of gender dysphoria. Jack is going through a phase where where he/she is still discovering who they are. It ends when you're dead. We also mustn't overlook the fact that Jack lives in a world where magic exists so she might actually be right.

Evgeny Balo

And bigger boobs... Yeah yeah, we get it already :)

Evgeny Balo

So problem solved. And Sam be like "she is like a niece to me". As I remember, he always calls her by the name anyway.

GoHawks1840

Also cheat codes for money

GoHawks1840

The hope is for the main character to do new sex with Jack.

Evgeny Balo

While writing this, I remembered the story of Robert Hoogland.

Evgeny Balo

No, I meant that I'm entirely in to the thing with Jack's POV, but to make it the default not optional, to avoid problems in the future. Well, about becoming the real boy here is the thing: now in the West it's common practice to inspire children about the possibility of changing their gender. You can drink from 21, but take hormones to change your gender from 12. Seems legit. And since Team Borsch lives on the opposite side of the cultural map, I think (hope) they want to show that if you think something is broken, but in fact it isn't and this is just a period of your life or someone's manipulation, then you don't need to fix anything. Follow-up studies of children with gender dysphoria consistently show that the majority of them will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty and will instead identify as gay or lesbian. Other researchers also report that a significant proportion of children diagnosed with gender dysphoria later do not have any dysphoria.

PaddyOFurniture

They redid the intro to include it but I think that your Disclaimer idea is an excellent one. In the western tradition it is completely acceptable to call an old friend of the family "Uncle", particularly if you knew them from a very young age. I had an Aunt who I didn't know wasn't a blood relative until my early teens. We certainly didn't stop calling her "Auntie" when we found out. If you'd told us to stop it would have gone very bad very fast.

PaddyOFurniture

Boris, you lucky sod!

Evgeny Balo

Well, they can just announce at the very beginning that Jack is a daughter of a comrade in arms. But I guess no one can forbid her to call him uncle Sam cause it's an acceptable thing in such cases (though I'm not quite sure how it works in the western tradition). And add a big warning to the startscreen: "all characters are over 18, no one is related". Bang bang, fuck you patreon, try to sue me :)

PaddyOFurniture

Among other things. I'm more a "quality over quantity" guy though.

Evgeny Balo

I bet you are more like an ass man :) https://pics.me.me/thumb_al-evervone-knows-im-an-ass-man-joey-never-cease-43331091.png

Team Borsch

Thanks for the feedbacks, your reaction inspiring us. This addition is target to make sex scenes with Jack possible without voyeurism. I can't promise it right in the new update, but we'll come to that. In the current update spicy scene with Boris will follow.

PaddyOFurniture

They had to drop the blood relation thing for a 'daughter of a comrade in arms' thing because of Patreon's rules. I have suggested that they still THINK of their relationship as uncle/nephew [as one often does in this kind if situation] since I think that the dynamic is a useful one and it allows them to retain much of the naughtiness of the taboo. It is also useful to them if others think of Sam and Jack think of them as uncle/nephew. It's a simple relationship that others would understand.

PaddyOFurniture

For my personal tastes Jack's boobs are plenty big enough already.

PaddyOFurniture

I think that we'll have to see it in action. If making it facultative makes it unwieldy then it may have to be dropped later but I think that adding a Jack's POV will be worth going through a lot of growing pains to get. As for the goal of the game - I thought it was to help Jack become a real boy!

Evgeny Balo

@PaddyOFurniture what do you think about this?

Berserker

I see. You're right with, Sam is slowly entering into obscurity if he becomes an observer in Jacks journey of debauchery. But as long as he's getting some same with Jack. I don't mind as well.

Evgeny Balo

I agree, this adds more credibility to the game. But what I meant was that from the beginning the game was more focused on Sam raises Jack's corruption level so he could cherry pick. And now he is turning more into an observer. But as for me it's quite ok, who will wait for sex scenes until the end of the game.

Evgeny Balo

Guys, everything sounds great except for this facultative thing. It'll kinda make the game logic much more complex. And since this is your first project, you might end up stuck on that variability later. With all due respect, you are not Bioware yet :) It seems to me that since the goal of the game (let's be honest here) is to increase the level of Jack's corruption, so playing for her from time to time by default and not facultative (in order to make decisions that affect the level of her corruption) doesn't contradict the narrative in any way.

Berserker

There is that with Sam, but there is still a problem with them being relatives. I've long since accepted that Sam won't be banging Jack anytime soon. So, i'd take any scene with Jack with anyone even Augustus with that vampire Bad End.

Evgeny Balo

Man, there is already an elixir of big boobs in the game. Besides, Jack already has big enough boobs to make them even bigger on a permanent basis.

Evgeny Balo

Yes, this is a very simple yet elegant solution. Boris knows how to catch the "worm" using darkness and Jack's holes as bait. But the "worm" will turn out to be very nimble and elusive :) The only controversial point here is that Sam puts in a lot of his efforts, but constantly misses all the fun with Jack and he doesn't seem to be that kind of a guy.

Kostas

Hopefully we get to make all of Jack's decisions from the start at some point. Like the first encounter with the first zombie but we decide she goes alone and depending on your choice she gets handled.

Alice

Sounds great, its a very good addition to be able to play as Jack, multiple protagonist is fun and gives more ideas.

PaddyOFurniture

You naughty man you!

PaddyOFurniture

Ditto!

GoHawks1840

I guess

Berserker

I do hope we get another sex scene with Jack. I wouldn't mind if it is with Boris. since we can get Jack's perspective, maybe we can let Boris do what he want's for that worm that Jack loves to find and maybe when Boris is done. he could give Jack one. It could even be a recurring thing where Boris gets to bang Jack since the worm is a consumable for elixirs.