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Chapter 262 - Sultan

🕑 Added 2021-07-16 10:45:35 +0000 UTC

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Muntu Omnyama

Anyone else missing chapter 263?

Blake Richardson

Thanks for the chapter! He is definitely a unique character. I like him.

Joshua

You got to kill him first and with his items and current guards that's very unlikely and in the future if it does happen the girls will probably be killed too and his contract might even kill them if he dies

GreyMalken

The Sultan is a ticking time bomb. The moment he dies there will be 4+ sociopaths that have been twisted further by torture unleashed like a plague.

Markus B.94

Where can i find the side Storys?

Sirius

This Sultan guy is… interesting to say the least.

Depends on the reason for prison. If what he said is true that girl not only killed innocents but also her comrades who trusted her with there lives. That is a special kind of bond and takes a special kind of evil to break it like that.

Luke Pyle

Also I think a lot of people are getting heated for no reason, this is a story. None of it is real, nor is it advocating for you to do the morally wrong acts that are depicted. We don't even know how Jake is going to react to the Sultan so no need to blow up on it. What I can say is that this is a well thought out character because it has caused quite a lot of debate in the comments section. Having multi-dimensional characters always leads to better story lines.

Luke Pyle

Not gonna lie I can see why your not reading comments on RR Zogarth. When this chapter hits it is going to be a shit show in the comments section.

You people are ... a special kind of breed. In a fictional multiverse with a system that is designed to create murder hobos, you want to claim the moral high ground.

Daniel

Bruh if I drop something every time my favorite author makes a single decision I disagree with morally or otherwise, I would have nothing to read. No one is the perfect ideal of another person and everyone has bad takes. Instead, you can comment disagreement to show how you feel about this moment and let the author know and continue with your day. I personally don’t have much of an opinion on this chapter besides I would prefer if prisoners can be imprisoned, rehabilitated, or death penalty.

Damian

Okay, I’ll admit he wasn’t as bad as I thought.

Silver Beard

It's fiction; and it obviously sells and pays well so to those who are against it- drop him. Don't read anymore. Simple. I imagine I had a similar reaction to all the smut going around, erotica, etc... I dropped them. To each their own.

Joseph

Yes? First off, we don't even know that what he said was true. They could just be random women. Second off, even if everything he says was true, that does not give you the right to enslave and torture people. Especially in this fictional world, enslavement is permanent. There is no escape, no revenge, nothing you can personally do to become free again. That makes it even worse than in the real world, where it is always morally correct to kill someone who enslaves others.

Scruffleupagas

Let's not try and play slavery off as morally grey, it's fucking gross. Everyone in the comments trying to justify it, what the fuck?

ParoxysmDK

First of all, if you believe any kind of death is 'humane' you're honestly delusional; death is final, there's nothing humane about it. The death penalty is almost always a question of profit vs. upkeep, and to give the people who might've experienced loss or pain -because of the actions of the perpetrator- some form of closure/feeling of justice being fulfilled. Or in some cases plain old revenge and elation from seeing someone 'evil' disappearing from our world. Secondly, don't try to project your idea of morals onto others and using swear words, while trying to 'shame' people for having a different view than you. It just paints a bad picture. If we use USA as an example: Like Zogarth said, USA uses legal slavery -and has done so for longer than any of us has been alive for-, and while it can be debated about the morality of it all; especially when it comes to petty crimes, the fact of the matter is, that they are actually payed for the work they do while serving their sentences. Yes it's a ridiculously low salary, but it is STILL a payment, hence it being legal. Now.. while the act of slavery is disgusting, there is a case to be made for the good that it does for a society like the US. It keeps dangerous people off the street, while also helping making the society run. It essentially saves lives, and raises living standards for millions of people. I personally believe you have to weigh that when talking about morality -in this case anyhow. With regards to Sultan torturing them, that is imo the worst part of his character, but at the same time, he is literally the kind of person that Villy wants as a follower, or rather; he is a living embodiment of what Villys whole religion advocates. Not to mention Jake is imo MUCH worse when it comes to morality. He has killed hundreds most likely thousands of living beings, a gigantic percentage of them being sentient thinking beings. Only for his own amusement -just like Sultan- and to become stronger. If it was purely for survival, then it could be condoned somewhat, but it isn't. He literally kills for the thrills, like a serial killer would, and it is especially hypocritical when you take the fact that he sees Sylphie, Hawkie, & Mystie as friends/loved ones, when he has killed so many beings, all of which could've ended up being his 'friends' too. Not to mention the whole part about the dungeon troll vs domination/possible enslavement to take them with him when he was gonna leave.

Gavriel

Ok, this is weird; he's sickening, but I don't know what Jake should do here; how do you deal with someone who enslaves and tortured serial killers? He's bad, I feel bad for the women, but does he deserve death for torturing serial killers?

In China and other countries active full blown slavery still exists. Though I don't find your point wrong extending someone's punishment to milk work out of them is reprehensible why I don't like the current vp she even laughed about doing mj when she put more than a few away as well as covered evidence to keep her free fire fighting service going

Zadumu

I was thinking about that. On the odd chance Jake actually decided to be totally against slavery I have a feeling that Villy would tell Jake that if he wants him to stop allowing slavery to get strong enough to make him. haha

Balsamic ThunderThighs

It's going to be interesting when Jake goes to Vinny's home turf where slavery is said to be a bit more prevalent. Now let's see how Jake handles this one.

Sammot

I feel if Jake doesn't feel good with it. He can just ban it or kill the guy. Morals and other shit don't fucking matter. This is Jakes territory and what makes him feel good is law. Unless you can take his territory which this weakling obviously can't.

Matt S.

Jacob probably doesn't know about what some small official in his city decided would be "a good idea" (assuming Sultan is not outright lying through his teeth). I doubt he has signed off on this, since you know, he could probably find a better way than "slave to a shady af guy" scenario.

Joseph

Slavery and torture aren't a 'sketchy gray area' you sick fuck. Those things are clearly straight in the dark black part of the moral color wheel

flssdd

me too Miranda not so much as she would probably be the one to deal with him in the future xD

flssdd

He will want to see the goods...

Zadumu

Holy Poo, I love this development. I'm glad he's not completely crazy but I am also glad he's doesn't fit in with the pre-system morals. As I had hoped, Jake is now having to deal with a situation that make him come face to face with his pre-system biases and this will set the undertone for some of his actions for the rest of the story. Prediction time! I honestly think that Jake will feel like it doesn't have anything to do with him. While he doesn't personally condone slavery, trying to fight/kill/change everyone that does is antithetical to his goals. Jake has zero interest in ruling earth so it would be silly to attempt to make all of earth follow his own ideals. At the very most I can see Jake deciding to outlaw slavery in Haven and then deciding to not associate with the Sultan by asking him to leave. But personally, I hope that he forms a begrudging relationship with Sultan as he seems like a sketchy gray area merchant that always has the best stuff but you never wanna ask how he got it. No matter what happens I just hope I am surprised! Cant wait for the next chapter!

Joseph

Holy shit, all of you fucks agreeing that the Sultan is 'cool' or 'metal' or anywhere even close to being right, are absolute psychos. WTF is wrong with you people? The punishment for mass murder in a society that is not set up to be able to imprison and rehabilitate people should be a swift, humane death. Not fucking slavery. Its crazy to me how many of you fucks are just accepting this guys story and saying hes in the right. I feel like I'm losing my fucking mind.

flssdd

But he also doesn't really have a reason to care. It's not like Donald who came to fight Haven and prey on the weak. You don't get to be one of the few D-grades by doing that. Also you don't need trust to do business. And his story is easily confirmed if they contact Sanctdomo.

Tristan A

how is he supposed to handle the women though? Assuming they actually did commit those crimes then Jake would either need to build a prison that could hold them or kill them. There just isn't any system set in place for this kind of thing, or the logistics to even create a prison and law system beyond frontier justice. And Sultan enslavery of them isn't explicitly wrong beyond his treatment of them. If Jake decides to kill him then it needs to be for the treatment not the slavery. As even in our current system of legal justice (at least in the US) having prisoners work isn't considered wrong as long as their treatment isn't unusual.

Indy

@Zogarth: Color me impressed! Last chap. I nearly whined about stereotype evil guys, and now you did this. Love it, I really do, and I look forward to Jake's reaction to it.

Robert Downing

I mean Jake’s current best friend (Villy) is about the same tier honestly. This guy just isn’t as powerful, or likable (yet)

Robert Downing

It’s the progenitor talk, supposed to be secret

Ratoo

Are bad things done to bad people bad? Overall, yes.

Cirex123

If Jake wants a world without slavery it‘s up to him to set an example and kill that bastard. Otherwise he implicitly condones it as the de facto leader of Earth.

Zogarth

That is America. You just described America.

Lani

This could easily lead to more slavery in the future. That’s how most societies start enslaving people. They start off, only enslaving war criminals, and then move towards petty criminals and than to innocents.

There is no evidence yet that the women are "sex slaves", although it is possible Sultan is lying. As for capital punishment, I do not see how that can be avoided in the sort of world we are looking at. If the woman truly did what Sultan says, then humanely executing her is probably the best thing that can reasonably happen.

Davis

Lots of fucked people in these comments, big fans of sex slaves and capital punishment. You fucks probably love cops too.

Jeremy Patrick

Lol this guy has confidence if nothing else. Jakes gunna smack him around here pretty soon tho.

Alnatura

Lol, if you think it's okay to sell of prisoners to narcissistic maniacs to be their (sex) slaves you are just fucked up man. Sorry but what if your sister did something terrible? Does she will. be sold to a narcissistic dude who fucks her for his amusement?

Alnatura

It's actually very easy. Treat people like you woud like to be treated. You don't need a moral standard for that.

Popsicle

Jacob probably sent them over for Jake and Miranda to deal with,

The biggest questions in my mind are what (if anything) did Sultan do to Phillip, does Jake know what he did to Phillip, and why did Jake send Phillip away? If Sultan is telling the truth about the women (a big "if" in my mind, since finding 4 D-grade women already having committed crimes worthy of slavery and torture seems unlikely), then Jake might be able to let Sultan leave (he could never let him stay because Jake is strongly opposed to slavery). But if Sultan used mind powers on Phillip (one of Jake's people, in Jake's territory), then Jake cannot let it go. Even if Phillip is not seriously harmed, that still constitutes an attack, and not something Jake can easily forgive.

Alnatura

Wtf is happening? This dude is weard as fuck. And that way of dealing with prisoners ist just as fucked up. If Jake isn't killing or beating him in the next chapter and steals all his stuff and the fancy ship I'm gonna explode. In what world is it okay to sell of the prisoners to a narcissistic maniac?? He shoud seriously ask the aurur what the fuck he was thinking. Kill that guy he is worse than William.

Mislandor

The explanation is very consistent with the story - and in this new world, it makes sense. Sultan is living life the way he wants to, and is powerful enough to do so, until he runs into someone who disagrees and has the power and will to kill him over it.

Gabriel

It would seem really out of character for Jake to believe anything this person says.

StarWolf

After reading everyone else’s comments, just kill him already, there are simply some people society has no need for. They are for lack of a better term cannibals, they kill or damage to destruction their own.

Vaccus

I love when you do this and make people get all moral in the comments lol. Also....preoccupied at the same --> preoccupied at the time

StarWolf

I hope this is simply a side story or an interlude. Just kill him already.

Derome Stovall

You gotta love the honesty.

Clint

Ugh. I mean, I'm on board for some version of prison labor rather than execution, but handing them over to a self-proclaimed narcissistic sadist seems like a very sketchy way of going about it.

Michael

Who are you referring to? What obvious scheme?

Michael

The problem is that he isn't doing anything wrong. He isn't a bad guy. These are death row criminals. Mass murderers, if he is to be believed. What is so wrong with doing to them as you please since they have chosen to live a slave rather than die with dignity?

Pike

I think it will come down to if he actually rapes them if Jake kills him.

Derick Coiler

Hmmm Jakes reaction to this is going to very telling … Will he attempt to speak up on ‘injustices’ Will he not react in the moment but plan later? Will he contact Villy? Will he be unruffled by it? So looking forward to which way you aim this for Jakes character growth! Thanks for the chapter

I ... Kinda like him.

Amelgar

huh... still a bit creepy. but different strokes for different folks I guess

WarVenom

If this man isn't full of bullshit, and the woman thing is just coincidence, then this man is cool as fuck. Who outs themselves as being a self lover who loves torturing people?

Jon

Assuming this dude isn't blowing smoke, I don't really see any issues with this development.

Alec Griffith

You said intelligence allows people to process things faster but he’s not particularly fast when his intelligence is stupid high. Problem with high stats is you need the people to reflect them, big reason why people keep stats low in most novels. He can’t see through pretty obvious schemes maybe it’s because he’s still Naieve I guess

Reyhulko

All of this is not as simple as it seems and this is good. Too simple things are boring, this is clearly not and i can't wait to see how tings will progress from there...

thkiw

as long as they're not random people he just picked from the road, and that he's not training the girl like a poodle, and a fuck hole. I give zero fucks. the idea of grabbing someone dignified and turning them into a sex dog is gross and a bit infuriating as well.

Guilherme Castro

Well.... I liked him.

Dont_like_to_Talk

Thanks for the chapter

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

Tomer Yud

Wondering if Jake will suprise us and not kill this dude

Patrick Schuldt

Man, what a shitty Situation. If we apply our current moral values he is not that better than the girls. But I think Jake can understand this and will work with this dude.

Arrogant Savant

This dude is metal

Sesharan

...Well then. That’s a more complicated moral situation than I imagined. I sorta suspect Jake is still going to end up killing this guy... but maybe that’s just wishful thinking, because I definitely hate him.

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