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Chapter 689 - Nevermore: Light, Death, Void

🕑 Added 2023-05-10 10:48:29 +0000 UTC

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thomas johnson

Since a cyclops is a divine entity limiting them to a biological feature or comparing them to humanity might be a bridge too far. In fact, I would go so far as to say that Cyclops opens a sense that has nothing to do with vision but a comprehension of how things function. They craft divine objects so their understanding of divine energy must be the measure that separates your regular Shepperd cyclops vs. godly cyclops that craft Zeus thunderbolts or work in Hephaestus forge.

Alexander Krikorian

If a human peering into the spiritual opens their third eye, does a cyclops doing the same open their second eye?

void god =/= void dweller, basically the common void dweller is on par with the average god while the void gods are more on par with the primodials.

Tim Dony

Weren't void gods supposed to be varying in terms of strength? Some could even be challenged by weaker gods. At least thats what the story used to say. Now its contradicting itself.

Aurora1325

I will point out out that technically holy church is the one the guarantees the week the longest life span. just not in there human form. because like any other death cult they are guarantied to live out there full life span in a "paradise". they are closer to mass slavers then a death cult. I would put them on the same level as on in fact. as there are some diffent pros and cons. still a absolute horrible faction though

thomas johnson

I have always been partial to Cyclops. Ever since I read about them in Greek myths they always seem to be picked on, despite offering a great deal of assistance. I love the characterization of the Cyclops in this story.

thendavesaid

Fulfilling their destiny doesn't mean to make them greater. It means to make them fit into the pattern that he sees with his divination. If they want to be greater than their destiny, part of his job is to convince them that it isn't worth it. He also represents an organization that uses its members as living sacrifices, which he seems to condone because there's a "greater good" that comes from it.

john henderson

I don't think they're really similar at all. Villy is known for being clever, and scheming, Valdemar on the other hand is known for being a straightforward brute. The similarities they've shown are simply respect for weaker beings who manage to defy expectations. Villy felt Jake's situation and immediately gave him a true blessing, and watches over Jake every minute with popcorn in hand, Valdemar waited until Carmen proved herself, offered her a divine blessing with a chance to advance in the future, and otherwise keeps going about his day.

Cameron Taylor

Jacob indoctrinates people into the greatest death cult in the multiverse. A cult that brainwashes everyone it can, and kills everyone in the way of its parasitic expansion. Jacob knows this and does it anyway. He might not kill or brainwash with his own hand, but he is the smiling empathetic face that helps it happen. He isn't beyond redemption. But redemption is what is needed for him not to be a monster needing killing.

Cameron Taylor

Maybe a bigger difference. The Malefic Viper has the multiverse convinced he is just that quick to anger. It's technically different. He doesn't get all that angry, he is just quick to kill out of minor irritation. But when you are responsible for destroying half a universe out of rage people might associate you with being prone to anger.

Athena

A couple more for your consideration Zogarth :) "an arm seemed to glimpse into existence" --> "an arm seemed to flicker into existence" Same sentence: "it displayed no moments as it" --> "it displayed no movement as it"

Numbzy

2/4 party members Vilas has had direct contact with their assumed patrons in the story and none of them have any reason to provide aid to Yip of Yore that we know of. Also, the United Beast Alliance would be the LAST people to assist Yip right now. They want Jake and Vilas happy, and willing to assist them with some bloodline primal shenanigans. The Holy Mother we have to assume that Vilas connected her, but he did explain they are one dysfunctional family. It wouldn't surprise me if he called in a favor from her.

Andrew Plas

Little critique as a reader on the previous chapter. I feel like valdemar and villys personalities are a little too similar. I would love to see how they differ as the story progresses. Maybe valdemar is chill but is extremely quick to anger and is willing to show that in front of his followers… maybe anything that anyone but the runemaiden does is wrong. Your story and I’m not here to tell you what to do but I would love to see a more in-depth personality from him because his background has a lot of potential to add to the story.

ItWasIDIO!!

Nope half correct cause if he truly wanted to do/be better he would have took the myriad choices event he has floundered been indesicive & now stubbornly believes he knows best and can out maneuver a primordial goddess into saving the weak instead of standard doctrine of zealotry or bounce like a father stepping out for cigarettes

Raven

Jacob has been misled and removed from situations. He's aware of it and clearly unhappy with the underhanded methods of his current faction. He's done the best he can in the situations he's been put in and took the offered hand he probably shouldn't have, but it was the only help he'd get to survive the trial and save some people from a metal psychopath. In a place with no external gods and no killing, him already looking for a new faction might be realized. Maybe a certain new faction on the rise with the backing of one of the oldest, a faction bent on returning to the primal origins of the universes.

ItWasIDIO!!

"STAY SCHEMEING!! Villy about get at them" I tried hope the reference is caught also good tin foil hat theory can see it being a thing

ItWasIDIO!!

im doing a reread so here "Jake still considered Jacob a friend, but it was like that kind of friend who you knew was a nice person but had now gotten himself involved in a nasty cult without being able to see it himself. Well, or a friend caught up in a multi-level marketing scam. All Jake would do was hope he saw sense before he went too far down the rabbit hole." so ya theres hope not from me cause imo he really has done more harm than good i hope for a fight

Zogarth

Fixed

J

Yeah. His faction is gross and I don't *like* Jacob. He comes across as a sanctimonious, smarmy mind-controller and he's in a leadership position at a hypocritical fascist group - but he also seems to at least try to not be too pushy about all of that at the same time, and doesn't fully buy into it, and works against his faction on occasion, and accepts people who aren't interested. And for what it's worth, we don't know what would have happened if they had tried to force Jacob to attack the undead rather than pulling him away from the situation entirely. He's still not good and he's helping a bad group . . . but he's right that it is a universe of no good choices and we should be comparing him to other characters in this work who are also all pretty bad. I mean some aren't (Sword Saint, Carmen, Casper . . .), but Jake and Villy are just as bad as Jacob and the Holy Mother. So looking at him in perspective to the general level of this fiction, he's not way beyond the rest and he has potential to be an interesting character. We learned earlier that any god would want an Auger, but his whole schtick seems specific to the Holy Mother. What would happen if he switched factions? What would even happen in general if someone lost their path like that? He'd lose all his skills and stats and titles I guess, but maybe get new titles? Would this be some sort of huge Record thing on its own? What if it's for a divine or true blessing from someone else? What if he stays in the Church as a squeaky wheel? I think there's a lot more to see here than a lot of other characters.

Slim

TFTC! <3 ”This meant they had likely interacted with the void my laying eyes on and chose to stare and attempt to understand their Patron.” (Incoherent)

Isley

good chappie

Luboš Hemala

The church treats their belivers as disposable pawns in life and after. Jacob is leading them into that, including sacrificial rituals etc. I am glad if he gets humbled a little by Minaga.

Ilinorin

I don't understand this hate. Jacob tries to help people fulfill their destiny, to uplift them so that they may become better, greater. He doesn't even always point them towards the church, in fact he's gone against the better interest of the church a few times. I hope he outgrows the church and joins the same group as Eron, it fits him better, and maybe becomes somewhat of a hieratic as well, helping anyone find their path no matter what it may be.

Jana

I totally agree.The Holy Church member on El’Hakans Party is kind of a giveaway. If one organisation in the Universe does not want a primordial to fall to anything but another primordial, it would be the holy church. For the simple fact that being a primordial is associated with being extremely powerful and their Headgod is one. While they might play lip service I would bet that not a single higher up seriously wants any primordial to be defeated. They are built on faith and would not help Ell Hakan to chip away the holy mothers glory, as indirect as it may be.

Numbzy

The more I read, the more convinced I am that Vilas is directly responsible for Ell'Haken's party as well as he challenged everyone to beat Jake at Nevermore. Think about it, Ell'Haken's party has as many geniuses from other faction to shift as much awards as possible away from him. I bet that Vilas convinced his primordial counterparts to give a helping hand then send as much competition as possible. All this competition is meant to beat Ell'Haken over and over again. Vilas specifically told Jake that Ell'Haken needs the divine assistance in order to match Jake because they are not equals.

ItWasIDIO!!

It took me a reread or two but ya l gotta say Fuck Jacob & his good intentions I hope you don't try to make him likeable later cause unlike his father(who basically did the same shit of I know what's best for everyone) he's riding full speed down that path to hell

Eiv

Thanks for the chap. As usual, made me laugh hard ❤️❤️

Athena

tftc "as he saw doubt mare the faces" --> "as he saw doubt mar the faces" "Safe for a few moments" --> "Save for a few moments" "but a few weaker D-grade" --> "but a few weaker D-grades" "Creatures that had starred too deep" --> "Creatures that had stared too deep"

Conan Whalen-mckain

I love Minaga bitching to Caspar about Jake.


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