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158. Pam and Helen Hargan - Murder Suicide?
🕑 Added 2023-04-02 15:00:05 +0000 UTC*this case involves discussion of suicide*
On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the murder-suicide of mom and daughter, Pam and Helen Hargan. But was it really?
Case Sources:
Nbcwashington.com, “Police: Daughter Kills Mom, Self in McLean; Child Safe,” July 14, 2017, updated July 15, 2017
Nbcwashington.com, “Victim’s Boyfriend Gives Emotional Testimony in Murder-Suicide Hoax Trial,” by Julie Carey, March 9, 2022
Nbcwashington.com, “Virginia Woman Found Guilty of Killing Mother, Sister to Get New Trial,” by Julie Carey, November 9, 2022
Wtop.com, “Police investigate 2 dead bodies found in McLean home,” by Jennifer Ortiz, July 15, 2017
Wusa9.com, “McLean mother-daughter ‘murder-suicide’ may be a double murder,” by Peggy Fox, November 15, 2017, updated November 16, 2017
Wusa9.com, “Fairfax judge vacates double murder conviction of woman accused of killing mom and sister for money,” by Bruce Leshan, November 9, 2022
Cbsnews.com, 48 hours, “Odd crime scene leads to conflicting theories about the shooting deaths of Pam and Helen Hargan,”by CBS News, updated on November 10, 2022
Cbsnews.com, “Defense theory: Shooter used her toe to pull the trigger,” by Lauren A. White, November 10, 2022
Cbsnews.com, “How investigators solved the Hargan killings,” by CBS News, November 10, 2022
Fox5dc.com/news, “Woman found guilty of murder after staging 2017 murder-suicide scene in Fairfax County,” by FOX 5 DC Digital Team, March 28, 2022
Lawandcrime.com, “Conviction Overturned for Woman Who Allegedly Killed Mom and Sister with a Rifle and Rearranged Their Bodies in Effort to Stage Slayings as Murder-Suicide,” by Colin Kalmbacher, November 10, 2022
People.com, “Murder-Suicide or Cold-Blooded Killing? Inside a Woman’s Alleged Plot to Kill Her Mom and Sister,” by KC Baker, February 6, 2020
People.com, “Va. Woman on Trial for Allegedly Killing Mom and Sister Heard on Recorded Call Crying Over Their Deaths,” by KC Baker, March 10, 2022
People.com, “Woman Found Guilty of Murdering Her Mom, Sister and Staging it as Murder-Suicide Will Get New Trial,” by KC Baker, November 10, 2022
Sportskeeda.com, “Where is Megan Hargan now? Charges explored ahead of new CBS 48 Hours episode,” by Nikita Mahato, October 1, 2022
Washingtonpost.com, “Va. Jury sentences woman to life in prison for killing mother, sister,” by Justin Jouvenal, March 28, 2022
Abc13 news, wset.com, “Police: Woman shoots mother, then herself in McLean home in
apparent murder-suicide,” by Tom Roussey, July 14, 2017
Oxygen.com, “Virginia Woman On Trial In Mother, Sister’s Killings, Allegedy Staged Slayings as Murder-Suicide,” by Dorian Geiger, March 11, 2002
Oxygen.com, “Virginia Woman Convicted of Killing Mother, Sister and Staging Deaths as Murder-Suicide,” by Dorian Geiger, March 29, 2022
Yahoo.com, “Judge Vacates Conviction of Virginia Woman Found Guilty of Murdering Mother, Sister,” by Jax Miller, November 10, 2022
Newsweek.com, “Murder-Suicides Reach Record High,” by Khaleda Rahman, March 9, 2023
Linkedin.com, “Pamela Hansen Hargan”
LinkedIn.com, “Helen Hargan”
Crimeonline.com, “Daughter Mad At Mom For Not Sending $400K Kills Her & Younger Sister, Stages Scene to Look Like Murder-Suicide,” by Jacquelyn Gray, March 28, 2022
Dailymail.co.uk, “Aunt of woman who is standing trial for the murder of her mother and
sister in a staged murder-suicide says she ‘feels sick every day’ and fears her niece’s final moments were ‘horrific,’” by Erica Tempesta, March 8, 2022
Fairfax County Police Department News, “Double Murder Suspect Arrives in Virginia; Arraignment set for Wednesday,” by FCPD Public Affairs Bureau, November 19, 2018
Fairfax County Times, fairfaxtimes.com, “Suspect arrested and charged with killing her sister and mother in McLean,” by Gregg MacDonald, November 9, 2018, updated November 13, 2018
City-data.com, “McLean, Virginia”
Citytowninfo.com, “McLean, Virginia”
U.S. Census Bureau, McLean, Virginia
Crimegrade.org
Redfin.com
Osti.gov, “Biography, Pamela D. Hansen Hargan, Vice President for Human Resources and Communications, Sandia National Laboratories”
Comments
lol I think it was on purpose but it had me laughing!
You guys need to watch Poker Face on Peacock!! Seriously one of the best shows ever
Zoya Westfall
The Friedan slip from peyton after garrets then seconds 😂
garrett i’m a nurse now but i used to work at cheesecake factory for 4 years & it’s actually where i met my husband lol anyway, some of my friends still work there so i got you!!!! 😂
I think the reason that the jurors aren’t allowed to do their own experiments is because there is no way to ensure they’re doing the experiment accurately. Like in this case with the woman who went home to check if she could shoot herself in the top of the head - it’s not allowed because there’s no way to ensure that she is testing it using the same gun of the same size, that she is the same height as the victim, etc. It’s the lawyers job to do these experiments so they can accurately recreate the scene without a bunch of variables.
This one was crazy 😱
I'm the Nurse that turned into the Pig Rescue and Stay at Home Mom on a farm... I'm a city girl. The trick is to pick a place near a city. I'm 15 min from Williamsburg VA and 45 from Richmond VA. That's the only way this works.
