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【2024/08~2025/02】Process - 100,000 | 過程 - 100,000
🕑 Added 2024-08-09 18:47:24 +0000 UTCHold on hold on, don't leave just yet, I promise there's an interesting story of why this image was made, but bear with me as I take you on this longggggg journey of how we got here (¬ ͜ ͡¬)
等等等等等你先別走，我跟你保證這張圖會誕生是有原因的，但過程有點長，所以請聽我細細講解 (¬ ͜ ͡¬)
Where it all started | 一切的開端
So, we've all seen a print where you see two different images depending on the angle you view the image from, right?
Let's talk about the science of how this works:
我們都看過那種不同觀看視角則會看到不同圖片的印刷對吧？
我們先來聊聊這背後的原理是什麼：
It's called "lenticular print" and it's actually quite simple, if we zoom in on the prints, we'll see rows and rows of neatly aligned lenticular bumps. Within these bumps, are printed images, one half being image A, the other being image B. When we look at the lenticulars, depending on our viewing angle, our line of sight is directed to only seeing half of the printed image. That's why we are able to see two different images on one print.
You can only have two images, or at most, three, right...?
這東西叫「光柵（lenticular）」，原理其實挺簡單的。如果我們放大看這些光柵印刷，我們會發現表面有一條條整齊排列的光柵凹凸。這些凹凸內則是我們想印刷的圖片，每個光柵內一半放圖片A，另一半放圖片B。觀看時，光柵會根據觀看者的位置將視覺引導到其中一半的圖片，所以我們看到的圖片都是一半的印刷而已，這就是為什麼我們能同時看到兩張不同的圖片在同一個印刷上。
反正只能有兩張圖片，最多可能三張之類的，對吧…？
This Sam Beige guy's video inspired the hell out of me.
As it turns out, you can actually fit a ton more images in one lenticular than I originally anticipated. This also means, you can do smooth animation, 3D parallax illusions, and maybe even cool variations (*´﹃ˋ *)
Mr. Beige explained the lenticular stuff a lot better than I did, feel free to watch it in full.
Sam Beige的影片給我了超大的啟發。
結果我才學到，原來你可以在同一個光柵上塞進更多圖片。這就代表你可以用這個技術做動畫、3D視差錯視、甚至可以拿來玩差分 (*´﹃ˋ *)
Sam Beige的光柵解釋也比我的詳細好懂許多，如果英文不錯的話可以看看
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Then I went to Japan (this was back in April) and this is one of the gifts I bought for Mutoh (〃∀〃)ゞ. When I first encountered this in a second-hand store, I was completely dazzled, I stood in the aisle for minutes just turning it over and over from one side to the other, and I was determined that I want to make something as cool, if not better than this.
然後我就去了日本（這是四月左右的事），這是我買給武藤的其中一個禮物 (〃∀〃)ゞ。當我在二手商店看到它時，我整個被迷住了，我有好幾分鐘都是一個人站在走道中間把這印刷翻來翻去觀賞。於是我決定了，我想做出一個跟這個一樣酷，或更強的設計。
Concept v1 | 概念 v1
You may recall that I showed this during the July's Progress Update.
The idea is that there will be two lenticular designs, with Sand & Mutoh paired, and Orbi & Duty Boy paired. I wanted to design something that can be turned 90 degree from either side with the backview being the center point, revealing information that you wouldn't otherwise see.
Orbi & Duty Boy's design is a different concept, but I first wanted to see if this design is possible, so I began contacting manufacturers by sending them this concept. As you recall in July's Progress Update, it didn't really go well.
你可能有印象在七月的進度報告看過這兩張圖。
我原先的想法是要有兩種不同的光柵設計，一種是沙子＆武藤、另一種是Orbi＆值日生。我想設計一個直接看會看到角色背面，但卻能往左右兩邊90度，看到一些隱藏的資訊的作品。
Orbi＆值日生的設計又是不同的概念了，但在這之前，我想先確認這樣的設計技術上可不可行，於是我就拿這3D模擬圖開始聯絡各種印刷廠詢問。如果你還記得七月進度報告的內容的話，發展真的不太順利。
I learned 3 things from that Concept v1:
1. Make the movement more subtle for better effect
2. This shit is sooooooo fucking expensive, just do 1 design💸💸💸
3. I need better manufacturers, so I've hired these two badasses above to help me find and contact Japanese manufacturers ( ง ᵒ̌∀ᵒ̌)ง⁼³₌₃
從概念v1，我學到了3件事：
1. 動態不要做太大，效果會更好
2. 這東西有夠他媽貴，做一個設計就好💸💸💸
3. 我需要更優的廠商，於是我僱用了上面這兩位大大幫我在日本尋找與聯絡印刷廠 ( ง ᵒ̌∀ᵒ̌)ง⁼³₌₃
Concept v2 | 概念 v2
I want an A4 folder design where 4 of the boys are gaming together after school in classroom, sharing snacks and trying to beat a game. When you look down, you will see all the food and books they have, when you look up, you will see the title "Gaming Shota" appear, as if it were a magazine cover.
我想要設計一個A4資料夾，四位角色放學後在教室內一起分享零食、攻略遊戲的場景。當你往下看時，你會看到各種食物與書籍，當你往上看時，你會看到「Gaming Shota」的雜誌風格標題。
Hold on, where did you get all the 3D models for reference?
Well well well, let me tell you about...
等等，你是哪裡弄來這些3D模型來參考的？
嘿嘿嘿，讓我跟你聊聊…
Shopping & Polycam | 採購＆Polycam
Apparently you can get really good 3D captures with just your phone's camera (except for transparent materials).
So, I spent an entire day just buying and scanning all kinds of childhood snacks XD
This super cool technology is called "Polycam", I'm glad I finally learned it and found a use for it in my project!
現在的3D掃描技術似乎已經強到就算是用手機相機也能獲得非常好的結果（除了透明材質以外）。
於是我就花了一整天的時間採購以及掃描各種童年的零食 XD
這超酷的技術叫做「Polycam」，我很慶幸我終於學會且找到地方用在自己的作品上！
Base Color (Draft) | 底色（草圖）
Lighting (Draft) | 二分（草稿）
Ambient Occlusion (Draft) | 遮蔽陰影（草稿）
Colored Draft | 草稿上色
This composition is extremely difficult to manage, I was stuck on this step for 2 days, so let me just slap a random golden spiral so it looks like I know what I'm talking about (?)
The difficult part about this composition is that because there are so many different elements scattering around, it can get very messy and confusing very very easily.
My solve for this is not only to add fogs and shadows to separate the different elements, but also arrange the snacks in a way that it follows the rainbow color spectrum, so that it feels like there's an order to the arrangement.
這個構圖真的超難控制的，我在這個步驟就卡了兩天，所以先讓我隨便貼個黃金比例線假裝我知道我自己在幹嘛（？）
這次構圖困難的點是有太多不同元素需要平衡了，做不好的話很容易會變得非常凌亂且不好理解物件彼此之間的關係。
我的解決方法是除了加入霧氣和陰影來分離不同的物件之外，還多了把這些零食依據顏色用彩虹的順序來排序，讓物件的安排看起來比較有邏輯。
Line Art | 線稿
Base Color | 底色
I usually dislike redrawing everything since it's quite tedious, but I can't deny that it yields a cleaner and more professional final look, and I guess it's something I want for this piece, ah... shit, here we go again. (›´ω`‹ )
我一般不喜歡把所有東西重畫，畢竟實在有點費時，但我又不得不承認最終的結果通常都看起來比較乾淨、更專業一些，我覺得這次的作品特別需要這樣的專業感，所以ah shit, here we go again. (›´ω`‹ )
Lighting | 二分
Ambient Occlusion | 遮蔽陰影
If you're into petrification, you're welcome (｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
如果石化是你的性癖的話，不客氣(｡•̀ᴗ-)✧
Colored Draft 2 | 草稿上色 2
I made these random things to put in the image just to have them blurred out, so they're mostly gibberish anyway XD
Mutoh said I'm so damn old, no one in their right mind would read game guides on books these days (´ . .̫ . `)
為了畫面內的小物設計了這些小垃圾，由於他們基本上都會被糊掉，所以內容我幾乎都亂寫XD
武藤說我真的有夠老，現在哪有人還會讀紙本的攻略密技 (´ . .̫ . `)
Rendering (Background) | 細修（背景）
I can't actually use the food labels and their trademarks legally, so I have to create my own versions of these food packaging (mostly parodies with shitty puns and memes). Ah yes, we're finally here, that's why we have this beauty:
我不能合法使用這些食物的包裝和商標，所以我只好做自己的惡搞版本（大多都是爛雙關或是迷因）。啊，對，我們終於到這一步了，這就是他的由來：
Next step will be to render and fix characters' details. Thank you for patiently sitting through this very long (yet kinda dumb) journey with me ٩(๛ ˘ ³˘)۶❤
下一步則是細修角色們的細節了。謝謝你們耐心聽我講完這很長（又有點蠢）的過程 ٩(๛ ˘ ³˘)۶❤
Rendering (Characters) | 細修（角色）
Post-Processing | 後製
Rinmi's Suggestions | Rinmi的建議
@9Rin_RinmiRin recommended making Sand's face's contrast a bit higher since it's the focal point. He also suggested making Orbi's face look a bit more shocked so that someone is reacting to the mess that's about to happen. One little detail he recommended which I also really like is to make the top chocolate ball slightly bigger than the rest, which helps to sell the depth effect even better! (〃'▽'〃)
@9Rin_RinmiRin 建議我將沙子的臉部對比調高，畢竟是主要焦點，也建議了將Orbi的臉調整成有些驚嚇的樣子，這樣至少有一個人在對這混亂的場面做出反應。有一個我很喜歡的小細節是他建議我將最上面的巧克力放大一點點，讓景深效果更好！(〃'▽'〃)
Title Redesign | 重新設計標題
The original title was made in 2020, which is about 4 years ago, time to remake it XDD
I wanted a logo that doesn't explicitly use any game related element, but also shows a shota being a bit bratty, yet trying hard playing games. The logo itself should have a stronger personality to reflect the feeling of being immature and nonconforming!
最初的標題是在2020年設計的，已經4年前了，是時候重新設計了XDD
我想要的logo是一個不使用任何遊戲相關的元素，同時又能強調正太那種有點屁、又認真玩遊戲的感覺。我希望這個logo是有點個性，強調正太有點不成熟又不社會化的印象！
Here's a messy doodle exploration of how the logo came about ←this guy is too lazy to organize it
The design on the left of the rectangle is the design I was going for, then @9Rin_RinmiRin gave recommendation with the design on the right of the rectangle. Which lead to the final design, the one inside the rectangle!
這是個很凌亂的塗鴉探索過程 ← 這人懶得整理了
框框左邊的是我原本的設計，框框右邊的是 @9Rin_RinmiRin 給的建議，框框內的設計則是最後採用的版本！
Draugnut's Suggestion | 爪爪的建議
@Draugnut recommended some minor fixes to the volumes of the legs, changed the gesture of the hands a little, as well as changing the biscuit's rotation a little to not cause a tangent with Duty Boy's broom.
He said this is a very well done piece of illustration, I'm so happy ٩(˃̶͈̀௰˂̶͈́)و
I also changed the logo's color a little for my own preference, now, time for Live2D hell!
@爪爪 建議了腿部體積的調整，也改變了手的姿勢，也將餅乾的轉向調整成不會跟值日生的掃把連成一線的打架構圖。
他說這次的插畫畫得很棒，我超開心的٩(˃̶͈̀௰˂̶͈́)و
我也將logo依照自己的偏好調整成自己喜歡的顏色，是時候來Live2D地獄囉！
Live2D Parameters | Live2D 參數
As you guys can see, the main effect of this work can mostly be boiled down to that one parameter, "Lenticular Parallax", which I've spent 2~3 days on it alone due to the sheer volume of things needing to be deformed. (¦3ꇤ[▓▓]
When I turn on the "Guide Opacity" parameter, it will change the opacity for the guide image I've made in 3D, which helps me calculate the perspective changes with even more precision!
如你所見，最主要的效果都集中在了一個名為「Lenticular Parallax」的參數上，由於需要變形的東西真的太太太多了，光是這個參數就花了我2～3天製作 (¦3ꇤ[▓▓]
當我打開「Guide Opacity」的參數時，這則會淡入我在3D製作的參考圖，讓我能更精確地做出透視上的變形！
Here's a low-res example of what the final product will look like! ᕙ( •̀ ᗜ •́ )ᕗ
這是成品的示意圖（低畫質）ᕙ( •̀ ᗜ •́ )ᕗ
The Back | 背面
Since it's a folder, it's got to have a design on the back too! I recycled a lot of the elements from the illustration itself and arranged it with a grid system to create a contrasting design that feels less busy!
All that's left is to contact the manufacturers, which have long been in progress, let's wait and see 👊 ᷇ᵕ ᷆ )
畢竟這是個資料夾，背面也必須要有點設計！我重複使用了一些插畫內的元素，並用網格系統排出了相對不雜亂的設計來跟正面作出對比！
現在只差與廠商連繫了，這也是早已進行中的事項，讓我們繼續看下去 👊 ᷇ᵕ ᷆ )
Comments
cang31051080
🥹🥹🥹
Sand Suna
我好希望我是天才喔･ﾟ･(つω`ﾟ)･ﾟ･ 有你們我才有這份工作，你們也是我的福氣<3
cang31051080
努力型天才既视感，能粉到沙沙是我的福气๛ก（ーωーก）
Sand Suna
現在是用MEGA沒錯，我這邊MEGA下載速度還算快耶，不知道有沒有人遇到跟你一樣的問題O: 以前是用Google Drive，但是檔案一直被砍所以才轉移MEGA的qwq
子贡问曰
期待满满！
克苏鲁信徒
相似了，我记得老师之前作品会留下一个解密的网页来着现在怎么没了呜呜 现在用的是MEGA还是啥的网盘咩 这个网盘不开会员下载速度比百度网盘还慢啊啊啊啊啊老师有没有啥解决办法呜呜呜孩子唧唧硬硬的但是下载不了视频怎么办啊啊啊啊啊啊啊（boom）
Sand Suna
謝謝犬山 (づ˶> ᵕ < ︎˶)づ❤︎
Sand Suna
原來是專業的！ 要是有講錯的或是想多補充的都歡迎哦<3
Nuc
沒有啦😅就是大學有修一點光學，想起不好的記憶 哈哈哈哈
犬山忍
看起來有夠讚
Sand Suna
咦，光柵怎麼了嗎？！ 求詳細！！
Nuc
光柵...我死去的記憶正在攻擊我 每次看到細節都得說好用心，然後看到石化我直接笑出來 他做出來其實有些東西效果不太好，希望沙沙能一切順利 超級期待成品!
Sand Suna
(づ˶> ᵕ < ︎˶)づ❤︎
Hagiel
看起來很有趣呢！沙沙果然是細節控 XD 連蝦條包裝也不放過～ 超期待製成品！！！(✯◡✯)
Sand Suna
There are some other pretty dumb labels too, but unfortunately, they only work in Mandarin XD Legs wrapping around each other has been a trope I love, it's appearing more and more frequently in my work 😏🤭😋 I'm glad you enjoyed this very lengthy process Firefox <3
Sand Suna
跟以往的活動規則類似，可以參考看看八萬的！：https://sandsuna.fanbox.cc/posts/6613352
Sand Suna
謝謝小楓！看得懂真是太好了<3 持續往創意路線前進 (๑•̀ㅁ•́ฅ) !
Sand Suna
這次的周邊目前也是只送不賣，規則大概也是跟過往的活動類似，可以參考看看！：https://sandsuna.fanbox.cc/posts/6613352 寄送到大陸是沒問題的:3c
Sand Suna
武藤一定超羨慕www
Curtis Reaper
Wow, we went on a full journey for the Shrimp Sticks advertisement haha. I think the "Shota Cummy" are my favourite...For no particular reason...👀 I also like how Mutoh's foot is wrapped around Sand's leg in a "There is no escape" kind of way. Overall I enjoyed looking through the processes you've gone through for this piece. I look forward to seeing more and the eventual final product 😁
嵐茈
沙沙的这个周边内陆有机会拿到吗？超想要的
請叫我邢小楓
沙沙的科普真是通俗易懂又有趣！感覺以後可以開個專欄了！而且每次的創意都讓人眼前一亮，真的是永遠都不會讓人失望～
Lion
我辦公室桌滿滿的日向🤣
子贡问曰
所以这个周边怎么才能买到😭，内陆粉丝会有机会吗，本来沙沙的图就很可爱了，加上这个也太棒了！
Sand Suna
跟武藤一樣都是排球粉嗎XD？ 久久出一次週邊只想出跟別人不一樣的！！😎👌
Sand Suna
Thanks Jackthesnake (｡･ω･｡)ﾉ♡ I'll be sure to send you a copy once this is successfully produced!
Sand Suna
歡迎回來！！！🫡🫰 Hagiel Wong對這次的週邊有什麼看法嗎XD？
Sand Suna
Thanks Carn!!! (´∩｡• ᵕ •｡∩`)
Lion
啊…你給武藤的禮物我也想要🤣 沙沙的週邊永遠都會令人萬分期待🥹
Sand Suna
水啦！ Is it good to drink?
Sand Suna
Thank you bombthehole! I will be animating the parallax effect in Live2D after I'm done 🥰
Sand Suna
中出牌的餅乾每次都很難搶，下次有搶到分我一點（？？
Jackthesnake
Love insights into your process. Cannot wait to see what beautiful concoction you've got cooking!
Hagiel
回來了～ XDD
Carn
Those are looking great!!!
犽連
真的是義大利了
bombthehole1
Those look amazing so far! So much work and the concept of changing images is awesome! I can't wait to see more :D
Darky 黑羊
欸不是 彩蛋也太多 （我要先來一包汗味蘇打餅乾？
