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TWL Chapter - 78

🕑 Added 2025-06-08 00:22:50 +0000 UTC

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William

1. The Martells are tough to accurately judge because Doran likes to play his cards flat against his chest, but personally I've always thought because of that very reason; that he is prone to patience and logic more than standard pettiness, like the Martells definitely deeply crave revenge and hold that grudge at the center of almost all their plans, but they weren't exactly petty or cruel or reckless about it, technically even Oberyn's decision to fight the mountain wasnt particularly reckless, he was confident he would win and he had d*mn good reason to be, he only got reckless when he had basically already won, and technically he achieved his goal even in death, since Gregor died a slow and agonizing death. So I think there's not much reason to doubt that Doran would contribute, especially with members of his own family living/studying in winter fell. 2. We can agree that the vale wouldnt lift a finger as long as its loyal to Lysa. 3. Im not sure whether you're saying the Riverlands would or wouldn't help, but either way, the Riverlands have a history of siding with Baratheons and Starks, mainly because CAITLYN STARK IS THE DAUGHTER OF THE LORD OF THE RIVERLANDS. 4. The Reach literally already has an engagement contract between Sansa and Willas, the heir of the reach. 5. Yes the Storm lands will also certainly help. 6. Tywin cares about NOTHING more than his legacy, what better legacy could he POSSIBLY wish for than one of helping to defeat the Others. 7. Starks. 8?. The ironborn are entirely dependent on what anyone does about them, El or Robert could probably threaten them into at least minorly contributing, maybe. Therefore, 4 out of 7 of the great houses would almost definitely answer the call to war once they had proof that this isnt a trick or a trap. 2 out of 7 don't even need the evidence because they have unshakable trust in their brothers. And 1 out of 7 is being led by a petty jealous idiot. As for the vasals of the great houses. Some vasals would follow their lords with or without proof either to stay out of the conflict or to join, some would argue to stay out of it if they don't have proof but would join if proof was provided, and finally some would try to stay out of it even WITH proof, BUT with proof, any houses that try to stay out of it, would be seen as traitors and threats by the rest of westeros, and would likely be immediately crippled in some way to prevent backstabbing after the confirmed conflict with the White Walkers. So proof could do A LOT, proof lets the great houses gather and fight the common enemy without being TOO suspicious of each other to get anything done. AND it lets them ensure their vassals contribute either by forcing the matter, or FORCING the matter.

omiguh

There really is no reason for him to go north of the wall again. Even if he succeeds in bringing a wight or a walker back, nothing would change. It seems like the kings believes in Ned and if the king can’t bring the south to the north to help then what good would bringing the truth back? Would it change anything? The Martells wouldn’t help anyway, the lannisters might since Joffrey is in the north and Jaime. No way would the vale help with how crazy Lisa is. The riverlands probably and I doubt the reach will. The storm lands will because of rob. And then after the war then the game of thrones will continue. They will just politic now and wait to see how it will end


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