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Pill Pod 146 - The Anaximander Fragment (Exclusive)
🕑 Added 2023-11-10 15:21:25 +0000 UTCThe cited texts are Heidegger's Early Greek Thinking and Derrida's Margins of Philosophy
Here are four English translations of German translations of the Anaximander Fragment:
1. Yung Nietzsche:
"Whence things have their coming into being there they must also perish according to necessity; for they must pay a penalty and be judged for their injustice, according to the ordinance of time."
2. Hermann Diel:
"But where things derive their coming into being, there their passing away also occurs according to necessity; for they pay each other punishment and penalty for their dastardliness according to firmly established time."
3. Heidegger's "normal" translation:
"But that from which things have their arising also gives rise to their passing away according to necessity; they give justice and pay penalty to each other for the injustice according to the ordinance of time."
4. Heidegger's "Heidegger" translation:
“Whence emergence is for what respectively presences also an eluding into this (as into the Same), emerges accordingly the compelling need; there is namely what presences itself (from itself), the fit, and each is respected (acknowledged) by the other, (all of this) from overcoming the unfit according to the allotment of temporalizing time.”
Comments
Alex B
Text cements pathways, necessitating their recognition and overstating their function. Pre-text speech would have been all surface, graced with supple pathways. Recording textifies speech, abundance detextified it, and now AIs do both simultaneously.
Zachary Manenti
that was one of my favorite group casts. It was real shit. What do u think about this thought: that Lacan’s ( also his being interdisciplinary to address errors in thinking in the humanities) return to Freud puts this question of Heidegger’s … the inadequation of language to being, onto the psychoanalytic and Freudian question of satisfaction. And then w Lacan of jouissance. You cannot ever have total satisfaction… ( or the whole truth) in a homologous way neither the unique word for the totality/origin of Being….. Anyway, one could also argue for Lacanian psychoanalysis, that though thinking philosophically per se little matters in ordinary life, getting analyzed, has a possibly ‘good’ effect on one’s ordinary life. (This episode was def worth hearing a second time.)
Zachary Manenti
Terrific! Back to the end of philosophy philosophers. Interesting though how the proper names of Freud and Lacan are completely repressed, even when Eric speaks about ( or assumes) the Ucs…. Was also thinking Lacan’s ‘parle-etre’ would be appropriate to discuss here. And of course the gap between ontos and ontic, being and language, is both castration and surplus—- and brings in Marx and Freud/Lacan. And the supplement, Derrida. (And, perhaps, from the standpoint of uncertainty, what’s missing might b called ‘entropy’?) Linked to debt…?
Robert Sherrard
Episode on logocentrism sounds good to me!
Khemith
It's funny watching the whole European tradition try to say "Dao"
Miguel de Jesus
Fun pod. Reminds me a lot of Elliot Weinberger's short book, 19 Ways of Looking at Wang Wei — a very funny commentary on wildly different translations of an old Chinese poem.
Socialswine
Nooo dont make fun of the Rovelli book i just bought it please
