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Chapter 464 - Luna

🕑 Added 2024-10-09 08:27:49 +0000 UTC

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Funny guy

Danks fur da chappie!

Ádám Balogh

It is obvious that Nat is wrong, he is not a future Absolute but a future Ruler as he wants to eat the highest quality deer jerky and will probably get it as a courting gift for Luna

Bartlomiej Głowacki

Nat combined mana manipulation few times so he is behind in levels with it and he also have 2 primordial energies to work on, so he cant spend time improving only his mana.

Youkai-sama

Let me guess, he's also 2-weeks from retirement?

Zaim İpek

This isn't relevant to this chapter, but I think I realized something about Biscuit. Nat feels uncomfortable and insecure around others who have more power than he does or at least could seriously threaten him if they wanted to. I think this is the primary reason Biscuit shows only the minimum amount necessary of his abilities at any given time. I think Nat's discomfort with talkative people and conversation in general is also a primary motivation for Biscuits minimal use of language. Another good indicator that I didn't think much of at the time is Biscuit's disciple. Ruby paired Masters and Disciples accordingly. Biscuit's disciple being the strongest of the disciples may actually be a more significant indicator than I previously thought. I think wolf pup lied when he said he was stronger than Biscuit, but Biscuit was more skilled with the primordial energy they both share. I think his level may be higher, but Biscuit's actual abilities were definitely far beyond his disciple, at least as much as Nat's abilities were ahead of Vega. You can't tell me otherwise. I think he was saying what Biscuit told him to say. Remember they were communicating very fast, specifically too fast for Nat to keep up. I think that was also intentional. Biscuit probably has all his skills in the high 70s and 80s, and I don't even know how many he has. I'd like him to get a crown skill. A doggy with a magical crown just seems right.

Zaim İpek

Bruh, the author doesn't think that deeply about this stuff. It's not passive cooling. It's active cooling. So it's beyond Primordial. Primordial thermal (at least how Nat uses it as our only example) is a passive ability. He used it actively exactly once, and the author immediately regretted it because it felt too powerful too soon. And now Primordial Thermal energy works passively via mostly convection. It has actually gotten progressively weaker as the story goes on, which is interesting. But that's not important. The Lurker's ability was active cooling using a field effect that actively slowed down atomic and intermolecular motion within the field. That's why the feeling instantly vanished when he died. If it was passive cooling, that wouldn't have happened. Is there some kind of elemental thing going on? The crown suggests yes. What is that crown called? Probably something dumb like "Cool Crown" or "Cold Crown" which both seem stupider the longer I look at them. What is "cold" element? The way it works here is basically the way Primordial thermal energy used to work in the beginning before it was changed to become a weaker skill. Soooo maybe it's called something like anti-thermal, even though that doesn't make any sense at all because it's literally just regular thermal energy control but done with enough precision to phase cancel. Very inneficient btw if they could have just pulled the thermal energy instead. But since it's its own element (probably) it's probably anti-thermal. And for the sake of balance, there is probably some anti-primordial lighting element as well. There is probably an anti-mana while we are at it. None of it needs to make sense.

Zaim İpek

Probably not at first, but after Nat made a point about it, that's probably when Biscuit started copying him in stat distribution. I think Biscuit is doing better with the body training though. I think Biscuit took note the first few times Nat did tempering and probably figured out a way to develop his own body much better than what Nat was doing. I would be extremely interested to see Lissandra's comments on Biscuit's methods. I wonder how he compares to those fancy pets of noble ladies. I'm biased, but I think Biscuit is probably even more talented than those noble lady pets. He may not be as good as whatever super-dog started in beyond, but he is at least the next best after that dog. I think Biscuit is more talented than Luna. . . . probably. Hard to tell since we have seen neither of them really push to their limits. Biscuit was pulling his punches in the tournament because he didn't want to cross the line from being competitive to being viscious and mean. I would like to see if Biscuit could train his mana control to be even more sneaky and stealthy to the point that the white sand doesn't react. I think he could do it if he tried.

Zaim İpek

"Asshole" and "Food" are real words. So is "I Require Sustenance." Biscuit is using exactly the amount of words he wants to use. Being a dog, he doesn't really think in terms of language structure. It's extremely inneficient for communication. He can communicate much more and much faster via direct mental link. It just requires someone with a mind advanced enough on the receiving end to take advantage of how much Biscuit can convey at once. Biscuits mind seems to move much faster than most of the humans. Now that Nat got his brain upgraded with the recent arcane passive, I think Biscuit will start using higher bandwidth when communicating with him and use more complex concepts. I don't know why the universe in this story works this way for animals and not humans, but Biscuit's mind seems to have rapidly evolved and gone far beyond his human companions in a very short time. Humans seem to get a relatively small amount of mental enhancement from the system compared to what these two dogs have gotten. But his mind seems to be beyond his own personality or ego. His capabilities have expanded faster than his knowledge of how he wants to develop himself or how to best use his new powers. His priorities are still the same. Eat tasty food, protect the pack, and play with friends. He doesn't have big goals like Nat. At least not yet. If he finds out that there is a cosmic super-deer as a universal ruler, that may be enough motivation to clearly direct his development. But using human language just doesn't seem important. It was never important before, and he remembers his former human relationships fondly. He got lots of emotional fulfillment without verbal language, and he still does. Unless his priorities change, I don't see him becoming fully verbal. If he is incentivized with some deer jerky on the other hand, he will probably become the most talkative member of the group. But he also knows that talking makes Nat uncomfortable, so there is still good incentive to be silent. I think he takes pride in being an emotional support and feels like it's an important role only he can properly fill.

Orion

Excellent

Kevin McGuire

Good job, Luna you blew Biscuit's secret. Now he'll have to use real words instead of being lazy.

Dreyday

Dear God @Poutine what are you a programmer, engineer? That is too much math & science. I give up.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

TL;DR There's two good options: <0 Kelvin temperature exist, leading to an abstract and more powerful law of "negative". Primordial Cold exist, being the simplest one to execute lore wise, with the least implications. And the third option, which cause Primordial Thermal Energy to work in a super convoluted way. Because otherwise, cold is piss poor and capped at

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Nah. Primordial Ice must exist. Heat can to infinite temperature, only maxed by a temperature so high it breaks physics, and the hardcap is when it destroy the universe. But even then, it could go above it, just what would be accomplished? Whereas Cold goes to -273C. Absolute cold isn't doing the damages dude's ice did to a rat, let alone a regular person, let alone lvl 250 people. -273C would still take hours if not days to freeze you solid. And you would need a lot of it. A slight brush would do less damage then accidentaly touching the oven metal with your finger. Unless Primordial Thermal Energy is something that cause damage logarithmically, as in. At t0, it does no damage. At t0+c it does x fire damage damage. At t0+c^k it cost kx fire damage. And at 1/c^k it cost xk frost damage. Or at 1/c it does bc frost damage. Basically, you would need to create thermal energy such frost damage is proportional to the relative nearness to 0K. Or at least f(n) proportional. So that getting twice as close to absolute zero would cause f(2) times the frost damage. Where f(x) is an always increasing function, with f(1)=1 and ?f(0)=0? And f(x<0) is undefined. ------ Anyway, you'd need primordial thermal energy to work in a very weird way to cause damage like that, and the explanation for how it works, even with the least restrictive math model possible, would still be hard to construct. ---- In general, in stories, because of that, it's always better to separate frost and cold termal energy. Or else, what you do is allow negative Kelvin Temperature. That would be much easier then the explanation above. It would require a little bit of reality bending, but that part is easily chalki-table by saying it's magic and primordial energy. But it would imply that someone who learns cold powers, will also learn how to create a negative where there's only positive. Basically creating a debt thats sucks up everything near. And that would mean gaining some understanding into the law of "negative". Hence, a master of cold, if he learns gravity magic, would one day learn how to create negative mass. It's not just about reversing. It's about making a positive property negative when it doesn't make sense physically, due to a slight bend in reality.

CptJimmy42

Luna will become Biscuit's new big sister, just like how Nat has a big sister, he'll want to copy him. I secretly bet Biscuit also went all in with mana with some kind of mana improvement just to follow after his best friend Nat.

Zaim İpek

It will probably happen, but it will probably also be a very friendly fight where they both stop before hurting the other.

Zaim İpek

Nat should find a way to persuade Leticia to give him lessons on mana manipulation. Her mana manipulation seems like it's around lvl 70. Every single thing she does with mana seems to be faster, smoother, and generally higher lvl than what Nat is capable of right now. He could probably offer her some items or something in exchange. She is obviously a natural genius at mana, but I also wonder what kind of training she does. Genius alone doesn't produce those kinds of results without lots of effort. I'm curious about Luna's sound manipulation ability. She is only using it as a voice now, but that could be an extremely effective weapon. And as soon as Biscuit sees it, he will learn how to do it and just call everyone an asshole. 😂 I think Luna will instantly fall in love with Biscuit when she sees him in the tournament, because he is such a handsome boy. She will be all "Notice me, senpai! Kyaaa!".

Andrew

Thank you!

TBONEMAN

biscuit vs luna during the next tournament

Ken Horne

(Asshole!)

Augustus

It could also be a variation of a thermal or heat crown with the mana crown storing mana this crown could have been alter to rapidly absorb heat allowing the wielder to freeze things.

anonymous patreon

Absorbing kinetic energy from movements of his opponent becomes more difficult the stronger that enemy is. They can have passive or active skills or traits against that. Against certain opponents it’s just more effective for Nat to do something else he is more used to. Ofc it could still work if he spends more time working on it. I just like when other characters are also powerful and might have way to counteract abilities Nat has - it’s more logical that way - for some characters i also like to think of their “build” and their weaknesses and the ways they went about to negate these weaknesses

Tsorov

We always knew that Nat wasn't perfect in all regards. As for Primordial ice: I don't think it exist, it is after all just the abscense of thermal mana. The most important factor was the ice crown. We know all crowns except mana have special abilities, or at least known special abitilies, the ability to freeze mana would fit right in

ZaA

Is Nat just not absorbing enemies kinetic energy anymore or what? Feels like you were heading in the direction of freezing enemies by stealing their kinetic energy and then just stopped using it for that. Using it to absorb someone's energy and then return that into countering the movement of what's left would make physical builds basically useless against him, and if he can detect the energy he should be able to sense all movement within his range, even if it doesn't involve mana. Hope he works in his kinetic energy cause it's an insanely strong thing that you/your character is basically just using as fire.. so much.. potential (wink wink)

Midy

Luna herself making sounds by vibrating air with telekinesis ?

Oskar Malim

Biscuit best doggo in the tutorial.

Dreyday

Primordial ice element then? Surprised that lurker was such a challenge to Nat. Although lately it’s starting to feel like Nat has more well rounded abilities and not just a mana maniac. First he was practicing his kinetic energy, is he going to be practicing thermal after this round of beyond? Will he now learn primordial ice as well? Seems like Leticia and Derrick have a better grasp on mana than Nat does in some regards.

Belmont Igneul

Luna is a bit sassy

Mato

Woof!

Dandaveeto

I would love to see when Luna meets biscuit

jj

Did Lucien give Luna a human larynx? Is Nat playing a prank through Ley Line? Or is there a Mind Mage lurker that has taken control of the group and started a group hallucination? Tune in tomorrow to find out!!


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