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Chapter 529 - Beyond Quest

🕑 Added 2025-01-01 09:24:09 +0000 UTC

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Val the mysterious Jedi

More like roachsandra is Yoda to nats obiwan

Belmont Igneul

Oh my questions are finally being answered 200 years later, I’m thriving

xerebz

No, that was referring to the 5th floor absolute, Tassian. Chapter 324, “Our previous Absolute gave up his title and passed it to Tassian without even trying to defend it. That's how powerful Tassian was even as a Champion.”

Yair Ron

So. The one who finally managed to kill Lyssandra is the Ruler of Pride. Nat wants to transcend Lyssandra. Nat is Pride. hmmm

mistermerf

That guarantee! Great stuff. I also notice that Kyralon's summary differs from Lissandra's. "First and only Absolute" versus, as I recall, an Absolute that she said stepped down for her. Perhaps I misremember.

Pletter

Most likely known information to Nat since the community should have spoken about it already. You are allowed to say what floor you are on.

Zaim İpek

Give Nat a few thousand years. He'll get there. His personality and approach to life is almost identical to Lissandra, he just isn't as smart and naturally talented as her. . . . basically the same situation with his sister Victoria. But even if it takes Nat longer to get there because he isn't as naturally smart and talented, he will inevitably get there by effort and determination. Lissandra serves a narrative purpose in giving the reader something to look forward to and anticipate for what Nat can become one day. It makes the more boring parts of his development interesting because we can see where the road leads and how much he is progressing on the path. If we didn't have a clear vision of his development, some parts might feel aimless or pointless. So Lissandra needs to be as awesome and badass as possible so that we can expect and anticipate the same for Nat even in moments when he is getting his ass handed to him by characters like Sarabeth (I think that was her name) because we know that he is learning from Lissandra and will be like her one day. Maybe he will be the second person to completely escape the system and become independent from it, and that's finally when Lissandra call him an Absolute just for fun, because the title no longer means anything when one is beyond the system. And then they fight, (obviously) and even if he wins or loses, it won't matter at that point for either of them, because they will be truly free and beyond all limitations. That's my own personal vision for the grand finalé of this story.

Jughead

I love pride slander

Kirin

Thank you for the chappie! Wow… we’re actually getting more than a breadth information? We’re so spoiled. :3

Lonnie

I finally figured out why I like Liss so much! She reminds me of Eithan/Ozriel from Cradle. Supremely OP but takes disciples/proteges due to boredom and to see how far they can raise them. I swear if Cerim sneaks in a comment from Liss that Nats hair lack volume and definition, I will absolutely lose my shit! Especially if it's while Nat's going through a portal. On a side note, dimensional storage!! Yayyyy! That sets up the sack full of arms. Perfect!

Zaim İpek

All this talk about rulers and absolutes. . . and the current ruler of gluttony doesn't even realize their replacement is coming sooner than they think. I think once Biscuit takes the gluttony throne, he will be the last Ruler of Gluttony because nobody will be able to dethrone him. He'll just eat them.

Zaim İpek

Pride just had some plastic surgery, and doesn't want anyone to know how ugly they used to be.

Zaim İpek

I think that's literally what is happening now with Myrra. The only real options are Ant, Myrra, and healer dude. My money is on Myrra After super Ant took over the tree and used it to destroy the Lynthari capital along with Eris, Myrra goes on a journey of grief, mourning, depression, and self discovery as she travels around the planet on her own somewhat hoping something kills her along the way and also just taking out her emotions on anything that crosses her path. Eventually she grows strong enough that just like Simba returning to the pride lands to take the throne from Scar and enact vengeance for his father's murder, she returns to take vengeance for her grandmother. That's my head-canon.

Sean

It feels like Lissandra is the main character sometimes just because she's such a cool character. It's like she overshadows Nat by just being a complete bad ass. I really like that though. Nathaniel's cool, but Lissandra is like the epitome of a power fantasy protagonist and I love those when they're done well.

Sir Supports Alot

I suspect some people aren't realizing what's going on, Lissandra was not a first generation, she didn't have the ability to design her class as she saw fit, and still killed multiple rulers, using the knowledge she has now before even getting her primary class. Who knows how much stronger this copy will be compared to the original

Rocotrap

I actually think she was depressed bc she was suspecting something was up with her world but couldn't put her finger on it

Gio

Ruby/Greed is the one that came up with the idea that every floor had to be a formative moment of a ruler's past. But that might all have been an ulterior motive to resurrect Lissandra. And I think Pride is the one that does not have a floor. Probably because such a thing would harm his pride in some way.

RingoSeto

best second wife to the soon to be ruler of wrath lily

RingoSeto

i knew she had to have died

James Cutter

Happy New Years! I NEED MORE!!!! This is genuinely an amazing story tysm.

Krzychu0304

It's been said that Liss was so powerful that when she went into a rage and began a crusade against the rulers, she killed 3 of them before eventually succumbing to Pride. With the unspecified involvement of the other rulers. It's also been said that this is such an ancient story that few remember it, including most of the current rulers. Which leads to the rather obvious conclusion that Envy remembers the original Lissandra, perhaps fought her alone and lost but somehow survived, or aided the other rulers in a more indirect way. And Envy, being, well, envy, envied Liss's power, so he went after her clone like a dog on a piece of meat the first chance he got. PS what's wrong with my conspiracy theories?

Jughead

I wonder if Liss going through the floors and picking up or killing off future rulers before they can be. That would such a petty F U. “I picked up a younger, weaker version of you trained them to be better than you could ever be”

Rylee Richter

Gotta be the women talking to his disciple right

TBONEMAN

She probably modified her body because Nat made fun of her

Ananiash

You're not very smart, she is a Gilf, your statement does not even make sense

Ananiash

That's obvious... she is now young... do you have gold fish brain or smth?

Death56

They never said ruby died only lissandra so I guess ruby Is the ruler of that floor and the ruler taking a interest in nat may be ruby

Ananiash

Bad theories and there is nothing about envy in this chap

Krzychu0304

And some suspect Pride, since that most closely fits the archetype of this ruler.

Krzychu0304

Maybe one of my conspiracy theories has been debunked (that Lissandra is the ruler of the pride)... But I have plenty of conspiracy theories, for example: Since we already have confirmation that Liss's first student became the ruler, I conclude that the other two have enough potential to become the ruler + the ruler of the pride was marked with the nat's goal. I also conclude that since Myrra's clone has the potential to become the ruler, the original most likely became the ruler from the 4th floor and I guess it's about Kindness. PS it's really cool that the relationship between Liss and Envy was explained.

Zaim İpek

That's even more badass than I thought. Killing three rulers is crazy. I assumed she just challenged the Ruler of Pride and failed. I didn't expect that she killed three rulers before that. I think there will be some interesting people waiting on Earth for the moment Lissandra escapes to ambush her before she can get any stronger. There are probably some who recognize they have a target on their back unless they kill her first.

Max

Tftc!! Teasing Nat with some spacepouch/ Fake inventory bag which He wants

Max

In another chapter we already got told that there are only 13 floors because one ruler didnt Like himself on a floor

Kevin McGuire

Nice catch I forgot about that. Did we find out what ruler refused?

Arme nd

Iirc the tutorial has 13 floors since one ruler refused to participate in the tutorial system

Kevin McGuire

Welp Nat just heard how he could one up his teacher. Who wants to bet he challenges Pride just to prove he's better than she is/was. Oh and let's not forget we found out the Tutorial has 14 floors since each floor has a Ruler's origin on it.

CptJimmy42

What a way to start the new year, with new information and a damned cliff hanger coming up tomorrow! Love your Cerim!

Moonfrost

this whole week is progressively worse cliffs, all to help us adapt and mentally prepare for the masterpiece of a cliff on Thursday that cerim has spent the last few months cooking

Michel Kommers

Love it.

Andrew

Thank you!

Funny guy

Holy fuck, tomorrow's gonna have a disgusting cliff. Shit.

Funny guy

Danks fur da chappie!

TBONEMAN

We need answers to the most important question. Was Lissandra hot?

Sailesh Kumar Kumar

TFTC

3legia

Yes, I'm dumb haha

David McCreight

Isn’t it one more day? He does Sunday-Thursday.

ZaA

Notice he called them diodes. His name might simply mean that his eyes are strange and far apart enough to see in parallax but it could also be that he wants to SEE the different angles of things. How other people interpret common information, how they see things compared to tens or hundreds or more other people and beings. Knowing the commonalities between vastly differing people as well as the biggest differences can lead to a massive amount of insight into both culture and about how things can affect efficiency among other things. Guy might just want to learn everything he can in order to try to understand existence. Hell, humans aren't even capable of understanding what existed before existence as we know it. What existed before the big bang? How can there be nothing? How can something come from nothing? Etc. there are theories but even in those theories we have no clue how to even begin to actually understand them. Could be the same for most or all sentient species

Ford Engstrom

Oh man, it sucked running out of chapter this time. It had me focused up pretty hard. Can't tell if I recognize this guy's name or what's up with parallax eyes. Mostly I wonder about the why, is it new planets undergoing integration generally or is it Earth specifically that he's got an interest in. He'll probably switch up the questions bc the plot must flow but I could have read another chapter's worth of that dialogue. Trying to get a read on the guy/questions and waiting for Nat's first q really sucked me in, looking forward to the next chapter.

Moonfrost

Greed is often described with red hair and a trait giving her yellow eye patterns, which matches up to Ruby on Floor 2. Lissandra has also referred to Ruby as "my greedy disciple" at one point.

Snowdwb

How is it implied that Ruby is greed? I missed that as well. Thanks!

jax rammus

Ruby 100% became greed

RJ

Damn Liss is a menace!

3legia

Happy new year for those who celebrate! Two more days of this before the weekly break? Nice

Tsorov

Kyralon literally said that "civilizations like that are not uncommon in the system". I don't think earth humans are the best sapients ever. Even if humans had some advantage, Earth isn't the only planet with humans. Lissandra is literally a human!

Tsorov

Probably because everybody on her planet was kinda idiotic, untalented or at least didn't strive to improve themselve. She became the strongest on the planet, probably for the challenge of it, and then everybody was like: let's just stop trying.

Gosia & Peter Stawiarski

My Milf fetish is triggered by Lissgilla's past. Can't wait for her Age of Abolutysm...

Asekhan

Remember the question she asked little kitten? I think she want to take the system down.

Asekhan

It's coming for sure, confidentiality and inaction clause makes it safe. And I'm sure he'll be curious how he met her

Dual.

Tftc

Dual.

Oh she 100 percent is, to give herself user status

Ronnel

So satisfying yet it's never enough at the same time! I also have questions!!

Rubeno

I feel like Warden takes as much pleasure from having his questions answered as from what kind of questions MC asks as it tells a lot about Nat.

Amelgar

oh... I missed that :facepalm:

Sergei Hartwig

Damn so good! Happy new Year 🎆

Jeo2134

Ruby is implied as being Greed

ShockedCorgi

It's true that in both Nat's world and our own we tend to rely upon technology. However, I feel like in Nat's world the fact that Earth's human's managed to advance and thrive so much without such a fundamental force as Mana, shows that the human's of Earth are cut from a different cloth than other sapients.

Amelgar

Hmmm... So does that make Ruby one of the Rulers?

Thunderhoof

Bruh, another cliff!

Rubeno

I feel like Earth is considered here quite mundane. Also having advanced technology before initation is not necessary a good thing. All places in tutorial Mc visits seem to be from ancient times and the more new worlds the more they seem to overly rely on what's considered by Liss "tricks" like inscriptions, tatoos etc. rather than on true mastery. Isn't it basically sign of societies used to rely on technology?

Johnny

Damnit man. Should’ve waited to read now I got no chapter when I wake up…but anyway, finally some answers! Good lookin out on all the Holiday chapters Cerim

Rubeno

I feel like she's using Hadwin's status just as a mask.

Rubeno

He can ask questions about black mana Lissandra who can go much more into the details without being limited by one question. Aside obvious questions about space ring (I love those are supremely rare. I hate how such godlike items [I mean seriously, pocket dimension that every person and their grandma seem to have in fantasy?!] are so widespread) there's few others. Frankly much better question would be regarding the Warden's specialization, how to develop mana eyes, and maybe others better. Another good question considering MC relative inexperience and assuming the Warden's goodwill would be: "Could you describe in detail what would you recommend for my development?".

Rubeno

If Lisanna is so awesome I wonder why was she so depressed first time we have seen her. Cosmos was quite literally open for her considering her strengh. Also I feel like she will be future obstacle for MC to overcome as fellow Pride just as MC seems to become one for Jean.

Nerø

Imagine how flabbergasted would Kyralon be if Nat casually mentions that Liss is now currently running around killing Champions in the tutorial

Borbino the great

I think her pride demanded her be the strongest and so she wanted to stomp those who where considered that I think she just did it for the love of the game

Seijax

Those that remember her, all old monsters themselves, call her "The Absolute" with capital T. Chills. Happy new year

zoarian

Holy shit, Liss actually killed three Rulers! I don't think the rampage was caused by the destruction of her planet, it was probably something else. Unless Rulers were involved in the destruction of the real Eladore. Maybe as a proxy war? I hope Nat asks about black mana, it's been teased for so long!

Thomas Dey

So it seems Lissandra’s subclass is Pride. Or, rather, the original’s was. I wonder if she has Hadwin’s subclass now.

ShockedCorgi

I love the Nat POV, I always appreciate it when Earth is considered 'different' because of our technology.

Borbino the great

Happy new years!


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