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Chapter 532 - In the middle of the ocean

🕑 Added 2025-01-06 09:29:09 +0000 UTC

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Ansordia

Whenever I remember this fact I laugh at the fact I believe I was close when I had 60 something woodcutting as a 11 year old... the good times...

Jayden Martinez

So envy was just being petty trying to make sure no one reaches the same level of power as him. That fits

TBONEMAN

The skill levels remind me of runescape. At level 92 you have reached the half way point in exp to get to level 99 skills.

Krzychu0304

Let me disagree, in my opinion Lissandra's depression was not because she was stuck at some "low" level (remember she became complacent), but because the world was not able to provide her with worthy opponents/challenges. +I have the impression that Lissandra's rampage was not a grind or a desperate attempt to break through, but rather a challenge to the entire system, as befits a proper Pride adept who is convinced that she stands on top of the world. In fact, one ruler did not want to agree to co-create the floor, but it was not specified for what reason. We basically suspected Pride, because of Liss's reaction as a Pride adept and treating the creation of a clone as a terrible slander. Which I will emphasize, refers to the fact that Pride was too proud to allow his clone to be created, but in no way does it follow that he was more powerful than other rulers.

RingoSeto

Fantastic chapter with a hopeful end to whitey

Max

Tftc!!

TBONEMAN

He should ask how to turn mana manipulation into manipulation

Rubeno

I feel like Liss rather was so depressed because she couldn't break through 100lvl skill wall and with Ruler of Pride being potentially the most powerful out of all Rulers (also, I remember one Ruler being so powerful that the Greed couldn't convince them to share one Floor out of their past like other Rulers did) meaning Liss couldn't progress further. After destruction of her home planet she got on last rampage to breakthrough yet failed due to recklessness. This time though she reacquired determination and progressess methodically with further Tutorial blessings.

Sloth

But she probably did have stage 3 mana potency. If she never advanced after fighting and beating multiple rulers, I’d be immensely surprised

Krzychu0304

These were the words of a clone, trying to explain the existence of her copy on the tutorial floor. Given the context and new information; My guess is that Lissandra stood on top of her world and reached such a level of power that she stomped on everything, without any problems, especially the absolutes from the last few pairings. And the lack of challenge and clear goal made Liss grow weary, unambitious and complacent... After the fall of Telwadore, she became like a rabid dog. It's hard to say whether she was looking for more challenges, power, worthy opponents or a glorious death... But we know that she eventually bit off more than she could chew, but before that happened, she butchered a significant chunk of the system. And personally, I like the option (although I have no evidence for it) of an epic battle between Lissandra and a team of rulers, supported by a host of absolutes and champions.

Trex

Heckin epic. I really liked the part where Nat used Ley Line to slicey-dicey

Larry L

Original Liss lost her ambition and grew complacent iirc, that would probably be why she failed in that fight. Not sure though.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Well, If the system didn't have any major change from year 0 to year T. And Liddandra time was before T, then all absolute before her were in the same conditions. Shared knowledge can also be usefull. It's possible she was born in the perfect time. A min maxing of the mentality of the time and the accessible knowledge. And she went full on with that mentality.

Poutine Au Syrop d'érable

Yeah so people who said Luna and the other girl with her (Mind blank) have lvl 80 mana manipulation, I call BS.

blaw

She died fighting the ruler of pride. So i would assume it was at least a somewhat open and fair fight. But what would be wrong of dropping a black hole in a worthy enemy if this is something you are able to do?

Krzychu0304

I don't see much reason to believe Lissandra had a different system, but she could have actually hailed from the end of the Empyrean era (which we only know ended before Ruby was born).

Andrew

Thank you!

Kirin

Thanks for the chappie! I love finally getting information abour several system related things.

Borbino the great

Oh damn I haven’t thought of this I kinda hope not but it would be a great ending for his character unless he can do more system fuckery and give him a mimics body or something so he can get a new one

Borbino the great

Was it confirmed that Lissandra had the system??

Borbino the great

Nah she died to some cowardly trick 100% like someone dropped a black hole on her forehead or something

Borbino the great

Holy fuck

Lestrat Shadow

Thanks for the chapter

Funny guy

Danks fur da chappie! Great fight :D

Krzychu0304

We have some circumstantial evidence that the system is changing in a way that makes users increasingly reliant on it, which is why users these days are becoming increasingly weak. While this doesn't necessarily apply to Lissandra. Of course, even older, older monsters would be more independent and less dependent on the system than Liss, but Lissandra may have been honing in on the system's sweet spot between gaining power on her own and supporting the system, making her more powerful than both older and newer generations. BTW, her rampage could have been a sort of mini-apocalypse, setting the system on its current course.

Rubeno

From Lissandras complaining how modern Champions and Absolutes started to overly on "system gifts" (tatoos, emblems, inscriptions etc) rather than on true mastery.

Krzychu0304

I have a few conclusions; -the system is constantly evolving, making users more and more dependent on itself and making them weaker and weaker (we have confirmation of why Lisandra was disappointed with the quality of today's champions and absolutes). -I wonder what Liss's mana manipulation skill level was, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 100 or even more, after all, she did such destruction being only at stage 2 of mana potency. -I wonder about the marking of skill levels, it seems intuitive that level 0 means no mastery of the skill, while level 100 means full mastery of the skill, while the progression threshold is on a non-linear scale such as logarithmic (e.g. dB). But we know that skill level is not equal to skill level, Nat lost and regained the mana manipulation skill several times, each time losing a few level points, but never losing actual abilities. Which simply means that Nat's current mana manipulation ability, being at level 61, is equivalent to a level 70 or higher ability, if he had never intentionally dropped it and then picked it up. PS I was also wondering about Lissandra's death, of course it could have been a fair duel on the beaten ground... Or rather Liss fighting her way through hordes of enemies desperately trying to stop her and slowly succumbing to accumulating wounds (vide Whitebeard).

Ivaon

nice fight

mathulu

I think you're onto something there with Primordial, if its pre system nerf energy.... with an Empyrean named skill it sounds dangerous.

Tsorov

Imagine Natt nlt getting Mana Manipulation anymore after fusing it with something else, but just getting the Skill [Mana]. Then he would have talent as well as hard work, which as we all know, produced something like Lissandra, and that would be OP

Tsorov

Where did you get it from that all absolutes after Lissandra became weaker than her because they came after her? We know that they still think of her as one of the strongest absolutes, but that was because of her talent, not because she somehow had an advantage since she was from an older generation. At least that is how I understand it.

Rubeno

Mana builds like MC one really have initiative advantage. Whitey is definitely a specialized genius but he seems to be using rooster of the same moves over and over again relying simply on being good with them to defeat his foes. Yet what if he encounters enemy against whom current moves are not enough? MC at least can improvise.

Rubeno

If current Absolutes became weaker in comparison to Lissandra doesn't that mean the same about her? Powerhouses from even older times being better than Eladore's Absolute.

Sailesh Kumar Kumar

TFTC

Erebus

Thanks for the chapter 🙂

XPDev

tftc, can't wait to see what nat will do with the lance and ley line

Dual.

Tftc

zoarian

Looking forward to the [Empyrean Lance] powered by Black Mana if Nat can manage it. If it's Primordial Mana, and Empyrean Lance is an ancient skill, they'd be extra compatible. Kaboom 2 Electric Boogaloo? Did Kyralon confirm Nat's got Black Mana since it was used in Fracture? I can't think of anything else, maybe a technique Nat used or something.

Sir Supports Alot

Yes! And just moments ago I was thinking that the level 99 skill thing was still not explained, shower thoughts go crazy

Sail

Wonder if the next chapter is the last that we'll see of Whitey

D.J. Hunte

I want to let the the chapters build up to read a bunch at once.. but everytime a new one drops I come running

Venno

Yeeeeeiiiiisssss this is awesome

Iron

Also thanks for the chapter

Belmont Igneul

It would appear that everyone is having fun :)

Iron

So it's as previously speculated, simpler title are just that more powerful. In a sense it almost feel as if the skill merges are 'bad' as they 'complicate' the skill eg 2 skill : dark sword and sword mastery could evolve into 'dark sword mastery' aka less 'simple' aka lower celling. I wonder if a 'skill simplification token' exist... Maybe it's the role of the skill upgrade but it didn't feel that way.

Thunderhoof

Bruh another cliff


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