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[Announcement] Patreon Billing Style Change

🕑 Added 2024-08-12 18:59:40 +0000 UTC

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Jackaloo

Thank you so much! And this goes for everyone- your pledge is deeply appreciated, but please know I will ALWAYS support you taking care of yourself first and placing yourself in whatever financial position is most comfortable for you! No matter how little or how much, the fact that you made the decision to contribute at all speaks volumes of your character and I couldn't be more grateful.

hunkyhusky

I'm staying no matter what!

Milo Smith

This is such a blow to creators and patrons as a whole, but I’ve been subscribed for years and don’t plan to change that! I may have to bump down my pledge because I’m in a bit of a tricky spot financially but I can assure you that your art is well worth it! If I do change that pledge I’ll absolutely be doing it through the website instead. Since I subscribed through the app (that I’m aware of, again it’s been years) I’ll keep an eye on things

OR-69

Already uninstalled from my iPad and iPhone. I'll just use a Chrome bookmark on my iToys now. Stupid move on Apple's part. Way too full of themselves! If people stop using their apps, the apps will all move to Android. Without good apps they'll lose the hardware market in a few years. I was seriously considering $1000 in iToy upgrades, but nah.... I can wait. I'm not into rewarding rich assholes. (won't be buying another Tesla either) Don't worry about the fee structure. Your work is great and you are very much on the dependable end of the Furry Artist spectrum. I'm not going anywhere.

sunkawakan

I can tell you that all my subscriptions originated here. I do not own any Apple products, use none of their products, and will not use their services. Thanks for the heads-up. I hope that subscribers read this, read between the lines, and cancel what they have done through Apple and do it directly here by downloading the app from google.

Rianwest

I’m In! I think your work is amazing and I’m more than happy to support you via the subscription model. Keep up the fight and don’t worry more than think got your back.

YrevaWolf

As if Apple needs more money smh. I’m still with you no matter what! ❤️ Also good thing you mentioned this, might have to change some other subscriptions. I think I’ve mostly subbed through desktop, but imma check on that. Regardless, I believe things’ll work out in the end. Just know you have many people who love you and’ll be there for you no matter what. ☺️❤️

Jackaloo

I really can't thank you enough, it's folks like you who literally save lives and allow small businesses and independent artists to still exist in our harsh capitalistic environment ❤️

Jackaloo

Thank you so much for the reassurance! It's been getting harder and harder for independent artists to function due to corporate greed and monopolization. Thank you for standing with us ❤️

Ryan the bork

Thanks that makes more sense thank you

Jackaloo

I just looked it up and wow, the Newtons are from the 90's! That's amazing 😂 and thank you so much for still being here, really appreciate you~

Jackaloo

Yeah you're a real long-haul Lucian! I'll always deeply appreciate that and thank you for the reassurance that you're not put off by the forced changes~

Jackaloo

No worries at all, I know it's ridiculously confusing! Since you've ONLY been using the web, you're totally fine and won't be affected by Apple's extra charge. The only change you'll see in the future is instead of a trickle of charges ($1 for every comic page 3 times per month), you'll just see it charge you ONCE per month of $3 and get the same amount of comic pages. I hope that helps! Let me know if you want me to explain further, I'm happy to.

Jackaloo

Using your example, yes, $5 per comic page adds up to being $15 per month. Basically instead of charging $5 per 3 comic pages I do every month, it's just gonna charge the lump sum of the entire month in one payment of $15 (while I still post 3 pages per month like usual). Let me know if you'd like further clarification! I know it's a little weird and confusing so thanks for bearing with me.

Grey Lathrop

I will continue to support you via subscription. I hope everyone else does too! good luck

Mike Clark

I love your content and would happily pay for any increase if there is any! Your an incredibly talented artist and hate to see when artists like yourself get the shaft by big corporations 😤 just so they can make a few extra bucks. If it wasn't for artists like you they wouldn't have any income in the first place.

Daddy Bearcat

1) I will continue supporting you regardless of the change, and 2) Apple can eat 💩. I don't own any of their products. Last Apple thing I bought was a "Newton" if that tells you anything.

Lucian Greywolf

My support is staying with you regardless. You've been such an inspiration since my discovery of your work and subsequently the fandom. Even if it's support through a different platform altogether, I won't be leaving 👍

Dustin Money

I hope I’m understanding this correctly, I’m not to good with technology, I’ve been a patron for you since 2019, I don’t use it, the patron app, just on the web idk if that matters, sorry I’m so lost

Ryan the bork

I am a little confused dose this mean that we will just be going form a per to monthly type of things say if I was paying $5 a per piece would it swap to $5 per month or will it increase to $15 for an avarge or 3 per month? if so do you know how much it will be changing?

Jackaloo

I believe so! Try using your web browser from your phone instead of directly through the app.

Jackaloo

OOF thank you for the additional comment! I didn't know that part either 😭

LauchInterceptor

Isn't it possible to pay on patreon without going through Apple even if you use the iOS App?

tegirvaru

im pretty sure android does the same for fees. no one should use app store stuff if they dont have to. twitch is the same. both google/apple take 30%, the bezos 50% before it goes anywhere, so the creator is left with scraps.

Grey Archer

If I need to, I’ll just resubscribe on my laptop. Apple can kick rocks for this.

Jackaloo

Oh yeah, every time one of my fellow creators gets the boot, I feel awful for them and fearful for myself. I mirror-post to SubscribeStar, but it has very little engagement, as most folks seem to prefer to remain on here, so I'm gonna do my best to sustain this platform as long as it'll have me!

Jackaloo

Wow, thank you so much for taking the time to write something so kind and reassuring! You guys really fuel the fire and I never wanna stop because I truly love what I do and sharing with you all ❤️

Dissonance

Thanks for the PSA. Changes all over...I have some creators who had their accounts suspended and under review by Patreon :( I think it's time to weigh our options, it will only get more difficult for creators to express themselves.

Jackaloo

Also thank you so much for your continued support, it means the world to me and my hope is that I won't have to give any warning that I am falling into the red!

Jackaloo

Because of this portion of the email, "starting in November, your fans in the iOS app won't be able to purchase subscriptions to your membership until you switch to subscription billing.", I'm guessing you may possibly go into a lock-out period if they can't make the switch for me on time (which would not be your fault!). However, perhaps this ONLY applies to new members and your payment plan will continue. I'm so sorry how confusing this sounds, I'm still trying to review everything myself 💀 (if somebody knows better than me, please chime in and correct me!)

Grey Archer

If I ever need to, I’ll be more than happy to increase my subscription. Just to make sure I’m understanding, I don’t need to change anything on my end, correct? I subscribed through the app when I first started, but the rest has been an automatic renewal process. Will Apple take their cut if it remains this way?

Reptile Cynrik

You know... I'm in the fortunate position that I would continue to support you even if you didn't post any artwork! ^^ I want to support you and the stuff you love. This is the work you chose and do great stuff! Even if your schedule or health would not allow you to create a lot of art... I know that you will never stop. So... I won't stop supporting you either. Take care of yourself!!! :-)

Shad

Ahh, how did I not know this? 😅 I'm surprised to hear that it's so dead over there.

Jackaloo

That's a good point! I really hope that the change is much more subtle and comfortable than my fears are telling me 😅

Damie♥

One thing you might be overlooking is that not all of your patrons have been paying the 3 pages per month price, because with per-post pricing you could limit how many times you pay when you sign up. An unknown quantity of people will possibly be upping their pledge by 100 or even 200% just to stay at the tier they're already at, so your overall payout might actually go up.

Jackaloo

I mirror-post on SS! It's just a ghost town over there, is all. The highest bulk of readers still live on here. But anyone is welcome to make the switch if they want, I'll understand ❤️ https://subscribestar.adult/jackaloo

Shad

You have probably heard this from others, but have you considered transitioning to SubscribeStar? A few of the artists I follow here have done so over the past year and have all been happier with the reduced oversight and demands placed on them by SS. Either way, I will absolutely continue to support your endeavors and hope that your bottom line won't be hugely impacted.

Blueberry

Thanks for bringing light to this, now I may have to unsubsidized to a couple patreons

Ollie

Don’t worry. As stupid as these decisions from Apple are, it’s not going to change my support of you. I will happily pay the per month fee, and I don’t think anyone will be bothered by that. As for the 30% thing, definitely use the Patreon feature that charges more on Apple. People will get on desktop or on the website to sign up rather than just using the app. I don’t think there will be much of any change of support. We have your back, Jackaloo!

AkiDave

♥️


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