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Guild Mage 113

🕑 Added 2025-02-25 12:00:08 +0000 UTC

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Piras

"For a moment, the two of them wound their weapons around each other, first week, then strong, seeking an opening." I think you meant to write weak instead of week here.

Tarrim

We got that at the conclave imo and it's been hinted at since freeport. When the teams were sent Genevieve and her faction threw a fit.

dimi1010

Hmm, that can work in an internal split situation. There would need to be a large enough reason for a faction to form and split. Jurian's ascension to archmage isn't large enough to fit IMO. Genevieve is holding a personal grudge and not a guild wide issue. I could see disgruntlement over the guild charter rules (the mentioned rules on culling response) be used as Lucania's political climate is going isolationist, but we haven't really seen the wide political sentiment of the guild members so far, just some students.

Tarrim

You make some fair points. I do think the word issue is potentially solvable. They could license a word by I find that unlikely. What I think more likely is they would be forced to share the words. While the barons would definitely be leery of it I think they could make a ruling of shared ownership is specific to this case due to the nature of it being a guild rather then a family with clear succession. If a split happens it would have to come partially from the inside. Then the split agreement might contain something like agreeing both sides have the same access to one or both of the words.

dimi1010

I don't think splitting the guild is easily feasible. Even setting up a competing academy is going to require some heavy investment. A core thing that makes the Mages' Guild work is their ownership of the word Aluth and Cei. The guild has ownership over those words, not licensed use. Ownership. It gives them a degree of independence because they have their own words. The king can't really strip them from it as it sets a precedent none of the baron's will like. Setting up a competing academy would require the royals work to either license theirs or a subject's word, or grant ownership over a word they already own. Licensing a word to the new academy would be better for him long term, as he doesn't give up anything outright and can keep the academy on a leash via terms and conditions. The issues with that depend on what word he licenses. Either he licenses a royal word, which makes it be more common and thus countermeasures can be made easier, or he has a subject license his word, at which point he isn't really the one holding the leash. There is also the outside perspective. In the abovementioned two guilds setup, the guild owning their words are inherently more stable for their members as there won't be an outside force suddenly deciding to revoke the license. And ultimately those are the people that form the core of the guild power. The nobility students that won't join the guild are a secondary priority to the guild. Useful to form connections and a money source, but not a core strength.

Tarrim

It's a full mage as per 97 which requires you to help cull a rift outside of the college's guidance. I think there may be something about masters from the conclave, but I don't think the author had figured out the guilds structure when he wrote that bit.

Gopard

Thanks for the chapter!

Gopard

Huh do I misremember? Wasn't literally EVERY "Court Mage" forced to first "archieve Master rank"?? Or was it Journeyman and finished a set number of rifts to become a court mage?

Dave N

thank you!

Tarrim

Its like what he did to the duchies where he turned 2 powerful entities into 3 weaker entities.

Tarrim

Sure you might get some rebel factions but better small groups rebel then one largely united group deciding to rebel together. Benedict wouldn't straight up break the guild he'd offer a charter to the new guild in exchange for some concessions. He'd probably try make himself appear the peacemaker in the situation. The guilds are the one group that aren't already his enemies I would expect to really throw a fit. That out of a fear that would happen to them as well. Maybe some nobles would protest it as well but I think it wouldn't be a deal breaker for them. He might even use the great council to accomplish his ends here since most of the nobles will already be in the capital in a few months.

Grayson

Breaking up makes harder to control mages, might get rebel mage factions...Pisses off nobles...Angers guilds...Dumb move...

Tarrim

If you look at it from the perspective of a ruler, the mage's guild is essentially a group of special forces with more advanced technology then anyone else. They have their own goals and desires and are semi independent. Imagine how such a group would make you feel as a leader looking to ensure your continued unopposed rule.

Tarrim

They are capable of it. If the mage guild ever largely sided against the royal family the royal family would almost certainly lose a civil war. But if they had a rival it would mean they couldn't dictate the results.

lenkite

Yep, a Royal Charter setup by a past King is very hard to dissolve. The Barons and Guilds will rebel since the King would be setting a dangerous precedent. It is easier to setup an alternative Royal Mage Academy under tight control of the royal family. But such an act can be an opportunity for the Mages Guild too - they can invite Eld and have casus belli to become independent of the Kingdom and become a Global Institution. Not sure whether Benedict will bow to Ractia - he likes his personal power too much and doesn't like anyone interfering.

Grayson

Why?? Guild doesn't threaten Benedict. Other guilds now on council would oppose break up.

P enyuk

Master Jurian is providing Wren with private lessons, isn't he? They're practicing prone combat and various wrestling styles.

Dave N

I’ll hit all the corrections when we get back tonight - we took our son to the natural history museum in NYC today, so I’m mostly afk :) Glad to see people enjoyed it, and speculating on the politics

Tarrim

“Aluth,” Jurian answered, “the word raw magic; and Cei, the word of sleep and dreams.” > Word of To be clear, this does not mean to cast two spells in close succession, or to simultaneously - but to actually merge two distinct types of magic into a singular result.” > Two simultaneously Edit* A crack sounded, echoing across the training ground, and Liv turned back to see that Genevieve’s had caught Jurian across the mouth with the butt of her staff. Genevieve's>Genevieve

Femboy

Sheesh she’s not a happy camper

Tarrim

I don't think master is that rare sure it would take more time and be more difficult but for such a prestiges test it shouldn't be that hard to assemble 5.

John Koor

This may be all of the surviving master still capable of travel. It might be a really small group. If it isn't, there may be a mechanic to allow any volunteer to test him in order to avoid a master having a few friends fake the results.

Alexander Johnson

Specifically, it was very cool to see another example of Luc in use - a lightning spear! Would be interesting to see how else the royal family has utilized it - perhaps Liv could eventually channel it into a useful invention like she did with her "icepack"

Alexander Johnson

Very cool magic used in this chapter! Super excited for our Liv to get to these heights of strength 😤

Arkzs

Interesting plot turning point. The fact we can view time in the decades instead of weeks makes for a unique reading experience.

Tarrim

Either that or he thinks he can control her and hopes to put her on top. Also if he's going to try to break the guild up he may think it will give him more control if the kingdom get pulled into the war.

Alexander Johnson

Lol, you're absolutely right. This was the height of unprofessionalism and bias. She literally only came to teach him a lesson and get in his way - surely there has to be other wandering masters still alive out there? Did we ever get rough estimates of the size of this kingdom?

Tarrim

I think Benedict is going to try to use this to break up the guild into 2 or more entities. A new one under Genevieve and the old one under Caspian. I could definitely see him viewing the guild as a threat to his power and multiple magic guilds are much less a threat than one. Of course dividing the group that will be critical to protect the kingdom from Ractia is going to leave him vulnerable. But I'm not certain what he believes about her return or maybe he thinks the eld can handle it.

Tarrim

I don't get the impression he's that petty but more he's a cold hearted schemer. I think more likely he wants to break the mage's guild. I think he recognizes it's utility but it's a potential threat to him. Multiple disjointed groups are much less a threat and there are splits in the guild he could potentially exploit.

Larc

Certainly the correct take if we follow the logical hierarchy, but it was more of a vibe I got from the tone of the last two chapters—a new king with, perhaps a radical one at that, with an incensed long-term advisor hellbent on causing a reckoning with the institution as she finds it unacceptable for Jurian to become archmagus. It's why I was wondering whether Benedict has more than just this lne reason to go after the guild. (Can we assume he wouldn't be petty enough to pursue the Jurian issue just because he's associated with Liv and thus, Julianne?)

Tarrim

I don't think he can crush the mage's guild. He could cause them problems certainly but I think the guild is too popular amongst the nobles for him to destroy. Combined with the fact that they are the most dangerous group of spellcasters in the kingdom makes it difficult for him to do anything by force.

dimi1010

Hmm, I didn't get the impression that the Benedict himself was against Jurian. It looked more like Genevieve holding a grudge. Also, she is still part of the guild, even if employed by the king. In this instance, as the tests are a guild internal affair and does not present a conflict of interests against the kingdom, archmage Loredan, as the guild head, is in the right for demanding her submit to his judgement and decisions.

SleepyKitten

I haveto admit the lightning staff was pretty cool. Dam she really hates him,poor Julian. Ty for chapter.

Larc

Time for King Benedict to crush the Mage's Guild, I suppose. I wonder if the hatred for Jurian extends beyond just the dead comrades...

Tarrim

They really should set an impartial judge requirement for this trial. Honestly they should have brought in 5 masters he has almost no connection to. Even the professors shouldn't have been allowed.

Gut

"“Four the second trial,” the archmagus explained" Minor correction needed here


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