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Chapter 93 You Know What They Say About Assumptions

🕑 Added 2023-05-29 16:01:01 +0000 UTC

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Addicted_Reader

Wow. An extended conversation about God in a webserial. And I'm as confused as I am about the real(?) God!

John Anastacio

I wonder if Merkovah will ever realize that Truth agreed with him only because he felt afraid of what he would do if he continued to dissent. He still hasn't been told the horridness of Truth's upbringing. He's very old so he might have deduced it by now, but he seems to have some blind spots.

eternalephemera

not my brand of wisdom

gostsamo

"I choose to believe what I've been programmed to believe in!" I humbly accept all the stones at my direction. :)

Nonnyor Business

I, no joke, will set up my Ipad next to the shower, playing one of his lectures, just so I'm not missing valuable listening time. The number of times I've thought "well, that's way better than my idea. Good job, 300 CE Egyptian dude, good job."

Lazerus56

damnit, id say you have no idea what you have just done if i wasnt sure you knew exactly that! im axtually watching all my free time evaporate.

Nonnyor Business

In fact, I just did that, on my Patron account. Seriously, if you have any interest in the subject, his Youtube channel is pure gold. You will also immediately spot a lot of things I directly stole. So. Spoiler warning?

School work

Considering God (or some aspect of God) has literally turned his back on the world (or at least on the people), I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say blasphemy doesn't matter. The question is irrelevant outside of what it reveals about Truth's mindset and personality, as God isn't going to do anything about it. God doesn't seem to care about this world. And tbh, it's in character for someone of Truth's background to question this, especially since God isn't exactly communicating to anyone anymore and he wasn't raise with much religion in his life. Also, we might be reading about a universe in which God isn't some infinitely benign being, or even a being at all. Could be God is just all encompassing, both good and bad, or a natural force with no desires and the shit state of this world is just kind of how events have played out over time.

Nonnyor Business

If you really want to blow your free time, check out https://www.youtube.com/@TheEsotericaChannel where you will discover answers to questions you didn't know you had, and many, many, many more questions on top of that. He's got a Patreon too, and I keep meaning to pledge to it. Well worth it.

Lazerus56

Never in my life have I wanted to learn me some religious texts but i feel like there is a bunch of references to the text that could deepen my understanding here. Might just do that, since i have only read a bit of the inferno, a few bible chapters (catholic), and just general osmosis through other media. Im far more versed in say Greek myths in contrast. Another great chapter!

Baconwargod

If your retort for ‘why can’t someone question someone or something’ is that they can do shit we can’t and they know more than us I genuinely don’t know what to tell you. Is a homeless man not entitled to question those above him even if he doesn’t know as much? If I were a paraplegic could I not question you because you can walk and I can’t? Ability means nothing. If I became a god tomorrow and decided to make a planet were everyone must kill each other to live the people on that planet and on earth would be well within their rights to question me. Just because something is more powerful or more knowledgeable than something else doesn’t make them beyond reproach and the fact that you seem to think that is frankly weird as fuck.

Aaron Weingrad

And that would show a kind of hubris. You couldn’t make a single ant. You couldn’t generate one blade of grass. No offense - none of us can. Where do we get off passing judgement on someone’s creation that allowed us to even exist in the first place? We don’t understand even a tiny bit of the universe God created. We have been around for such a small slice of time. I get being angry at one’s lot in life or feeling bad for those who suffer in the world but given our ignorance and weakness compared to a being who could generate the universe and everyone and everything that ever has or ever will exist it is the most massive case of Dunning-Krueger to think we know enough to judge. Obviously if one is an atheist this is all moot. But Truth and the rest can’t really rationally be atheists.

Aaron Weingrad

It’s like an infinitely amped up version of some regular shlub critiquing Brady’s work as a QB. Or someone looking at a Rembrandt and saying that the painting could be way better. God is the creator of the entire universe. From stars to snails he made it all. To look at something this massive and complex that has lasted billions of years and will go on for so much longer - all the galaxies and each and every electron in their orbits and say “could be better” is filled with hubris. Who the heck is any human to pass judgement on God’s works?

Baconwargod

Why?

Aaron Weingrad

A valid distinction but I’m still thinking there is some hubris involved in passing judgement on god.

Baconwargod

Did I say you shouldn’t believe I can believe in god and still say he did a shit job.

Aaron Weingrad

Glad to see that in a world where god is confirmed to exist and faith is unnecessary people will still blaspheme. Which is more out of touch: choosing to believe without proof or choosing not to believe in the face of proof?

Baconwargod

Truth didn’t say he could do better he just said that he didn’t do great.

Baconwargod

Glad to see that even in a universe where god is confirmed to exist religious people are still out of touch and can’t stand to be questioned.

Aaron Weingrad

The beginning of the path to wisdom is to learn to fear god. Truth’s background and major complaints are actually focused on the strongest apologetics for theodicy. He is scarred by his parents’ cruelty. But free will is a pretty easy way to keep a benevolent picture of god without making them responsible for people’s sins. A god who didn’t allow for his parents to make their terrible choices would create a world where Truth and his siblings wouldn’t be who they are either. Railing against existence is inherently adolescent. And Truth is written as relatively stoic and accepting of the world as it is. His temperament should lend itself to embracing a god who can often be felt as cruel in his choices. There is a deep narcissism in thinking one could do better than god that is an interesting contrast with Truth’s self-loathing.

Svensonsen

Well that's a good example of how abrahamic religions really don't want you to question them🤣🤣


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