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Sky Pride Vol. 4 Chapter 50- Standing at the Peak, Seeing Only Despair

🕑 Added 2025-11-21 15:00:18 +0000 UTC

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Edmund C.

If I am understanding this correctly: Through Starsieve The Kingdom received either fortune/merit, or a definition of such, from an outside source on loan. Then the Gorge siphoned this away. When collections came everyone payed up, but especially Blackiron/Gorge. The question is where all that “golden rain” came from considering the ledger should be clear, and what it is exactly. Can’t be merit or future, at least not in the near term, because we know things are gonna be pretty bad in the Kingdom for a while. If it is merit, it may be coming from the virtue of Starsieve’s sacrifice for the future of the kingdom/monastery. I found this chapter nearly inscrutable, but ima finish the book before I start giving into the confusion.

Grappleshot

Oh. Because she ate that third bun that she shouldn't have, her mouth got dry. Simple as that instead of whatever the flip happened in this fight.

Kain

On reread and reading the comments it’s just so funny. Starsieve did, or has set in motion, the exact thing the child kiling revolutionaries wanted. Insured the destruction of both ACM and th empire so that a “better” or “true” empire can emerge in its place. The child killers were even essential, or at a bare minimum an inevitable consequence of the current empires decline due to Starsieves inaction, for Starsieves plans and timeliness. And yet none of the condemnation for those on the ground pieces in Starsieves grand design is being attributed to Starsieve himself. Instead he’s the grand, wise, and powerful senior cultivator who “got one over” on the old demon Black Iron and “set the foundation for the new empire”. Lol it’s just so fucking classic. I have at least a little faith Tian will see through the old man’s bullshit better than the comment section at least. It’s the same conclusion and similar actions just with 1 or 2 degrees of separation + said by a “powerful and wise senior” couched in more flowery sophistry instead of an earthly realm former peasant speaking plainly.

Kain

Big assumption the current sect head is going to be helpful and not in need of purging themselves. While Starsieve has the cop out that “he was just a grand elder not the current leader” so he’s “not responsible” for the current state of the sect the actual current leader literally has no excuse other than “Starsieve didn’t step in so why should I” or something like that.

Kain

Well grandpa is in jail until Tian does enough to earn credit for the “virtuous cycle”. While he experienced plenty here I don’t know how much he actually “did”. Remember Grandpa said if Tian had successfully made hong soup by himself they would be swimming in energy while just being the vehicle Grandpa used to accomplish the same act actually cost them their savings. Since this event was mostly a third parties actions, starsieve, I’m sure it didn’t cost them anything and probably helped out a little but I still wouldn’t expect Gpa back for a long time.

Adam Birch

This is why the strongest dint just go around getting involved in shit all the time. Because when they do shit gets crazy.

Felix Giron

Liren eating that third bun = not even a monster diviner can encompass everything. This duo look like Starsieve's last, desperate, fate lacunae. Aiya! Fabulous. TYFTC!

Isak Mark

He did mention that he would die that day, maybe he killed his own ego being reborn and not at the same time. We can't really know with advanced cultivators it's beyond comprehension just like the details of the fight at the current point in the story.

Chris Britt

Why is everyone saying Starsieve is dead? He spent the first part of the chapter telling us that each step of cultivation is a cycle of destruction and rebirth. He also told us both he and blackiron linked their fates to nations to help them advance. Finally he stole all of Blackirons merit and his physical form dissolved. He definitely advanced in some way we don't understand.

karmaslap

And at the end, Starsieve takes everything the Gorge stole and sprinkles it all over the kingdom, which should heal everywhere with missing roots + enhance all the other fortune. Also means that there should be more cultivators born based on Tian's recent speculation. He's kickstarting a golden age to herald a new kingdom

Joe ?

I love high level cultivator fights when they're done right. Part battle, part multidimensional positioning, part debate.

Matt DiMeo

Stole it *back*. Or maybe just triggered debt collection.

William Johnson

Good high level cultivator fight! It's always tough to give the sense that it's not just two much stronger guys with much stronger swords hitting each other.

ST

Amazing

Akkido

“Corrcect->Correct, but incomplete..."

Brandon Cleveland

I wonder how much time this bought off grandpa’s quiet time.

Robert Mullins

The grand elder is dead but the current sectmaster is still there. I wonder if/how they will be purging members of the sect who lack sufficient merit?

Adam

Well! That was not what I expected. Insane chapter, no idea what's happening next, let's gooooooo

BP

I mean, not that commonly. Black iron is more often cast iron or cast steel with an oxide. Also high phosphorous wrought steels are a good thematic fit. Cast iron is a better fit though: high strength, low flexibility.

Zephyr

So the way I read it, Starsieve/Broad Sky Kingdom has basically been borrowing and building up all this fortune, fate, merit and sin leading to a hefty debt that will eventually need to be paid in the form of destruction and rebirth. However at the same time Black Iron Gorge has been taking all that fortune/fate/merit/sin and funneling it straight into Black Iron Gorge. He thought he was stealing it, but what he really was doing was essentially buying up BSK/Star Sieve's debt leading to him being effectively over-leveraged. Now here comes Star Seive doing something that triggers the debt collection time (perhaps by stealing too much of BSK's fate) and oh boy does Black Iron Gorge have a big bill to pay! By the way interesting choice of words for the names. Gorge can mean to overeat and consume greedily. Sieve is a device used to filter out the unwanted material (like the cultivators he sacrificed in this war).

Michael

> The bloated, black fortune dragon of Blackstone Gorge was forced into visibility, wrapped around the frantically chopping Daoist Blackstone. Black*stone* ? Edit: >He was standing on a path, looking up over a river plane River plain, ITYM.

Tabac Iberez

A-- potentially incidental-- detail I just noted. Black iron is also known as *pig iron* because it hasn't been worked yet, and it is the working that gives iron strength by aligning it and getting rid of the impurities. Ironic in the extreme, given the things we know about the Redstone Wastes and the people who live there.

Baconwargod

Insane once again. Your depictions of old monsters scratches something I never knew itched. The way you show how each of these two have twisted the world around them for several volumes showing us who they are without ever meeting them culminating in this. I enjoy it everytime

zero

wtf. wtf.

Mundane

Study divination for thousands of years. By all objective measures you are a master of the art. Attempt to divine what your last meal will be. Thwarted by an upstart greedy junior sister.

NoAriGuy

Jayzus, what a chapter! Man, like a couple of other commenters here i thought we’d be seeing Starsieve take on Tian and Liren as his diciples and the next arc or 2 would be that, then maybe a timeskip. But nah, this is so much better

Noroh

Huh, it's oddly Tolkienesque in the framing of it. Evil, by its very nature, sows the seeds of its own destruction. Just as Sauron's machinations created his only weakness, The One Ring, and led to his demise so too did Blackiron also deliver himself to his own doom. And just like in the Lord of the Rings the instrument of fate is a character who dies not wholly good or evil themselves, indulging in the part of their nature we object to but ultimatly helping move the world forward. Good writing has a way of syncing up I guess lol

VestedStream283

Did Starseive just steal all of Black Iron Gouge's fortune and install it into the new kingdom? Along with his own and what's left of the Broadsky Kingdom?

Zephyr

It's not uncommon for general rules of thumb to evolve down the line into hard rules by the underlings. Could be that for an average cultivator it does lead them into an unhelpful direction.

uncropped spidey

destroyed any expectations I had. Just shattered them. But the end there needs a little more fleshing out. So does the description of how the Xia clan was cursed for generations and had all their successors in Tian's generation died. And a bunch of other things.

Andrew Lechner

It has been repeatably said that each of the major Sects only have a couple cultivators that actually matter. The Juniors jockey for position and fight and die, but such things are of little consequence in the long term. The true powers keep each other in check. This chapter, is what happens when one of said true power stops caring about said checks, and effectively commits suicide by going all out one last time for the sake of his successors. He probably resolved to do this long ago, but only now identified strong enough inheritors to make such a move worth it.

Matt DiMeo

I think they’re mostly merit-having outer court disciples, to become future pillars? Maybe?

BelligerentGnu

I'm a little lost, but it seems like a positive development?

Mike lee

broooo

Slapjack

Talk about 0-100, I was so sure we were in for an academy arc under Starsieve.

BrilliantDawn

Passing of the torch, but cultivation style

Sean Shivers

Nah, it's very fast, very abrupt, and pretty surreal... I think by intention. The good parts imo are bound to come during the conversation after

Matthew Bernardin

I always loved Dune's take on prescience. To see the future is to be trapped by it. IE the observation effect collapses the probability wave that is reality into fixed outcomes.

Sean Shivers

And drying out her mouth.

Vainirion

Two hot teens receive a golden shower from a powerful old man. (I am sorry.)

Sean Shivers

I like it. No complaints. I will say I didn't feel much reading this chapter. It was too surreal and too fast and abrupt to really invest in. There's so much happening. No individual part felt like high stakes. Great if that kind of surreal disconnect is what you're going for.

March Parabola

Took me until this comment to realize that that's what he meant by his snack. Really, Liren! This is why you should only eat your fair share.

crusaderstar

Great chapter and arc, the story so impresses and delights me. One fun q starsieve raises is how would one act if you were really a skilled diviner? That q is out of our world, because no matter how fierce ones predictions, you can't actually divine shit on earth. Asserting you know how the future will unfold is usually just nihilism and laziness, you don't have to try and better things if the trend is bleak, for example. On earth you can't know, always good to try. Here though, starsieve can pretty decently see the future. Much easier to make grand utilitarian net arguments, that include lits of shitty intermediate steps.

atmosphericturtle

Rip Starsieve. May there be countless pork buns waiting for you in your next life!

Raymond Mouton

Thanks for the chapter.

Lady Merlin

What an awesome chapter! The way I see it, Starsieve was not able to specify a lot, but instead create conditions where he could leave the mortal realm in a state that he could be relatively satisfied with. Conditions like how the Ancient Crane Monastery was set up, but also miniature versions of moving fates' current so 'villains' could be in more trouble than 'heroes' (like how Tian never ran afoul of that older student he had offended). That said, I personally am not a fan of the theme (seeming truism?) sacrifice as necessary for progress, but like it is said in Frieren, a Magician is only truly capable of what they are able to imagine. Due to his characterization in the story, I can't imagine Starsieve as someone who was able to create anything better than he did with the tools he had available - and to be fair, many of us (including myself!) struggle to imagine better paths, either. Tftc and the story, Warby! I hope you are able to enjoy your break.

Isak Mark

I bet Hong feels really shitty for eating that third bun, denying Starsieve his final snack.

Mar

Yeah, me as well - really wish for once there was more “tell” and less “show”

Kain

He’s hangry really all of this is sis Hongs fault.

Steve Wright

Oh! “…but not my snack.” Liren ate the third bun, which was intended for Starsieve. What a through line, Warby, OMG.

João Vene

The third bun, that Hong was warned about by a diviner. She ate the third bun and Starsive was left with no snack.

Art Dragon

I have no fucking clue what just happened… guess it’s official; I’m dumb and my brain is soup.

Aadi Narayan

I need to see this animated, if only i had even a lick of artistic capability. Also what was the snack going to be that they would have gotten from Heartmend?

Tadas

I feel it's a bit of overreaction to Hong Liren eating the third bun.

Robert Mullins

The hundreds of golden pillars are the remaining pillar families? Did they die as well?

Austin Cagle

I think it's a combo of this, and him needing something (The Fortune piercing needles Starseive used on him, were created by him, were also in Hongs bag?) Hong and Tian are notably hard to divine due to having so much "destiny" or something, so Blackiron would have been relatively blind to them, so them finding the children and the stakes, then stealing them from Heartmend, was all blind and Starseive might have helped influence it, but even he had to kinda wait for an opportunity and opening to make a move on Blackiron. Tian and Hong gave him that, along with assurance for the future. Holy shit Warby is good.

1FantasyFanatic

Wow

James Faulkner

Seems like Starsieve was burnt out and nihilistic but wanted to hope for more. Especially since his last act was to infuse his accumulated merit into the Broadsky kingdom + Zihao and Liren

austin kutz

I get it now. Starsieve's true secret weapon is Salvia. He got everyone high as fuck on deleriants so he could sneakily kill Black Iron

Anghwrtais

Wow.

João Vene

We've been told again and again that the Monastery was only looking for that one talent that could change everything, that one disciple that could change the world. Starsieve thought he found that with Fu, divined him and found Tian and Hong. And then he personally instructed them on the Dao, Fate, the Monastery, he took them on a field trip and showed them what higher realms look like, killed Blackiron and blew himself up to shower merit on the kingdom? Did he actually give up caring? Or did he find two talents that could change the world and bet everything on them? Fuck you Warby I'm never going to be able to read regular xianxia without feeling it's kinda basic after this.

Codered999

Do remember that existence starts as a primordial soup. It was always soup, everything has always been soup.

Olof Falk

You've always been so good at the philosophical, low-key, emotional stuff so I've been somewhat worried if you were going to nail the more "epic" parts that cultivation stories inevitably needs to handle as well... and boy did you deliver! Outstanding!

Aaron Archer

I think he was waiting for Liren and Tian. They were expensive to divine. They were needed. Just as Little Treasure was. The bones of the new kingdom, something better, starts with them.

Austin Cagle

So, did Tian and Hong give Starseive the final motivation and push to go through with his last plan? His self sacrifice? Or did Starseive just happen to have it planned before hand and they showed up with the right final ingredients (Fortune Piercing Needles or whatever) and because Tian and Hong are hard to divine, the blackiron guy was also blind to what was going to happen? I'm impressed but also confused a bit.

ioajfidsnmfomds77

So Grandpa is verified that the Mad God is responsible for things being wrong. Someone is deciding merit, sin, and using them as a currency after all

Tabac Iberez

Tian wanted his Sect Elders to fight in the war as well. I'm glad he got his wish, but the cost... well then. What a cost.

JackassofAllTrades

"The tension of benevolence and cruelty, the tension between vital energy, qi and shen, it’s much the same." Starsieve mentioned "brainpower" by its true name, Shen. So I guess just hearning the name doesn't prevent Earthly people from reaching the Heavenly person stage. I did wonder about that, why the elders are so hush hush about its real name.

GreenB

I feel too dumb to understand a lot of the philosophy and even the fight sequence.

David Bailey

What they said...

BaguaBrady

I think you'd really enjoy the Slumrat Rising later combat too if you haven't read that. I agree it keeps the visceral grit even with big abstract powers

dkpfrog

Tftc!

Adamas Shield

Oh Dragon Soup, Evil Kingdom soup, good soup, neutral soup. Soup is truly bullshit :D

Veridescent

Mm well this helps further confirm my earlier thoughts of cultivation being of accumulation and a lot of these lower dynamics are just facets of a higher cultivators accumulation. Didnt think it would be so direct though. Interesting to think on that progression logic compared to the ideation of the dao being everything. Makes the note of the past and future amusing in a way. To the dao what is future and past compared to the present? Gives some potential bits of hope, because in truth starsieve really just noted there are patterns that are stable and unstable, nothing much more than that. Of course he also said constructs may be applied and be used, and I suppose such is also exemplified in the "dao hearts" as it were of his usage of fortune as his blade vs the ever grinding hard iron seperating things.

Matt DiMeo

Tian’s gonna wonder why he waited. Was SS just looking for the point where Blackiron had enough sin built up to pop?

Al

You have a way of delivering chapters that really make you go "Haha what the fuck"

Diarmuid McGinnity

Bit of an overreaction imo, but I’d be pissed off if someone ate my bun too

JAMAJ

Grandpa just silently criticizing the fight between children noting where energy was wasted and where there was room for improvement lol

Steve Wright

Well, damn. Predicted Starsieve, did not predict that Starsieve would go straight to endgame with Tian and Hong as witnesses to his final lesson.

TeDureShi

What the hell…

Teach

Whoa. Incredibly skillful setup… I felt whiplash but it was so satisfying. Every piece, from the fortune piercing needles to grandpa being absent and unable to give commentary, was masterfully put into place

Robert Mullins

This will require some rereads to understand...

Paerofar

Holy shit... i feel like we just saw the fight where Dumbledore repelled Voldemort in the Ministry of Magic.... except if Dumbledore had been planning that particular fight for 3 thousand years

MrMarauder

Author cast mind flay; Super effective!

DT

Damn. Would have loved grandpa's commentary on this old monster's shenanananananigans.

LordMars

Nani dafuq.

Markus Müller

Wow. What a chapter.

Linus Falck-Ytter

Sheeeesh, what a chapter. Thanks!

Cameron Bacon

what the fuckkk I think this might genuinely be the coolest high level cultivation fight scene I've ever read. I'm reeling. Its hard to even put it into words. I especially love how much of it comes through even being clear that Tian is NOT seeing everything that's happening, and much of it is probably his brain freaking out trying to rationalize whats happening. Oh my god. It's so good. What the fuck


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