Post "[#16] Uncensored - You Cringe You Lose" by "wineaboutit" from patreon

Alex Blythe

Penguin

Chado

I do be gayish

William Boshi

It's buffering a lot for me too and I don't wanna listen then censored version on youtube cause I hate that

Val

i'm bi but also non binary so i feel like i should earn some extra points

Thique

bro PLEASE upload these patreon episodes to youtube unlisted or something, patreon player is absolute dogshit and I keep having to buffer with gigabit fiber internet

Max

“It’s a good life lesson” “For the kids with cancer?” Ahahahhahahahaha

Donnie

im a homo

Jack Buschlen

touch (maybe potentially) (a substance grown outside sometimes known as) grass

Alex I

If 77% of your audience is male then that’s very telling. IMHO the( potential ) female audience may not want to hear QT and Maya talk about situations ( like sexism in the twitch creator community , fears of being harass in public, stories of rape or death threats ) because, I think most women in the USA have a story or two of the sexism they experience if not on a monthly basis that they might not wanted to be reminded of it in the slightest. I know I maybe generalizing why women aren’t watching / listening to (unintentionally at times) a funny Duo like Qt and Maya but, then again with such gigantic volume of content of online media to consume in today’s Internet that it’s probably easier to overlook (ANY) twitch content creators as potentially worth some people’s money and attention. Keep up the great podcast and work you ladies are doing!!

Pax Man

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR388FnB/

Lennu 27th

penguin

J

Bi-ge

EdGy

Big change it was a penguin. Love the pod!

EverquestJunky

Penguin!

Purrcy

Penguin but definitely emphasis on the polar bear part of it. Also I am one of your gay ([and trans] man) viewers <3 love the podcast!

DarkJesusus

Gayge :)

Mint Tea

penguin

hope leyana

PENGUIN.

Cullen Engle

Penguin for sure

Craig P

Penguin.

Skelyn

I am woman

myan

i'm 2 of the minorities a woman and gay :)

Darren Hertenstein

I feel like you guys need better wine. I housed two bottles of (different) wine while watching this. It was a great episode.

porganne

Gayge :)

Michael

Gayge :)

Moral Panic

I don't know how to phrase this well but I hope it comes across. I felt a little sad when you said the % of male viewers was that high. Like "ugh they're invading this space too". But then, I got a little happy because it means there is a big number of men watching this show, actually listening to two women and shaping their mindsets and thoughts from your input. This isn't to put pressure on the kind of conversations you have, you can and should have fun talks, or more serious ones like today. I'm just hopeful that these men can learn your perspective, and I feel like that is a big source of change. Also, I am a gay man, we are here and we love you two. I hope this comment didn't make you feel pressured, that isn't my intention. Penguin btw

Ayoub LWR

:)

tilly

penguin. and man, the discussion around deepfakes is incredibly depressing. you can never win as a woman on the internet (or anywhere) because standards are held so high for us :/ also the response by male streamers was definitely something. i think a good point to make is that all streamers have some part of their audience that don’t care for their personal life and watch strictly for the content they produce (“we don’t care start playing ____” andies). but for female streamers there’s extra layers where they’ll have first time chatters (and sometimes regulars) who come into the stream and don’t care for the woman, nor the content they produce. they just want to see that woman nude because they don’t see women as humans, just objects - and are under the assumption that we want to be sexualised constantly like it’s gratifying to us lol. male streamers just don’t have that experience with the average viewer and i doubt most will ever understand or accept it. (btw minority demographic here but let’s go lesbians!!!!!)

Brendan

I’m GAYYYYY

-Derek -

Polar bear

johanmoon

hi im gay and i've been a fan since the rajj era, love u both

Albert Pastor

🐧🐧🐧

Mark Ramirez

Penguin

eirysse

penguin btw

SK J

Does anyone else dress up for Wineaboutit? 💅

lauralou180

🐧

Zyrenod

Gay men check in🏳️‍🌈

Sasha

Yeah I thought it was really powerful too

Sasha

👏

Sasha

Loved the episode but please, for the love of goodness, let the wine breathe! 15 mins with the cork/cap off (wine dependent) and the flavours start coming out 🍷red organics tend to be less vinegary in my experience P.S. 🐧

Sid Raghunandan

penguin :(

seashell

Penguin. The discussion on deepfakes is really sad the way some guys choose to just ignore how it makes the affected women feel and make up hypotheticals about how they might feel. It probably isn't much solace, but I would guess most guys who do that are kids. There's a lot of ignorance online from teenage boys who go down the incel pipeline because they're going through puberty and dont think beyond their jealousy of women getting sexual attention that they themselves aren't. Can only hope they talk to more real women and grow out of it. Also section 230 is a good thing because without it social media and even twitch couldn't really exist, it would cost too much in moderation because the website could be held liable for the content on it. The issue is really the fuzzy laws I think on deepfakes, uploading sexual deepfakes should be a crime federally. You would think it would be covered under the nonconsensual porn laws that get revenge porn taken down, but because it's so new the legal system might not have caught up yet.

Debs

For sure a penguin!

Juliana McKenna

The scroll down thing is in after effects. I did it for school once shameless plug I would do it again!

Juliana McKenna

Qts too critical of the last episode. Tbh it’s the only episode I’ve gotten thru and loved. The Hasan one was my fav before. Or the newest streamer awards episode.

Juliana McKenna

WHY ARE THERE THREE SEPARATE TITLES FOR THIS ONE EPISODE! Pls don’t do that!

Daddywarbucks

I wish more people would listen to what you guys had to say about the deepfake issue, it was very insightful and could probably get some people who dont think its a big deal to understand why its definitely a huge deal. My initial reaction was very similar to yours, and im not even an atrioc viewer. It was hearing from the perspective of the women involved that helped me understand how and why it was so awful

Daddywarbucks

thats because there is no good wine!! 😋😋😋

Jack Buschlen

Love QT casually talking about her EX boyfriend who is 100% a pedophile

Jack Buschlen

Yall cant pick a good wine to save your life

Daddywarbucks

I will say, i had guy friends that went to an alternative high school and they made friends with a teacher who would sometimes take them to go get food or starbucks sometimes. Obviously with the additional context you gave that dude was definitely a pedophile, but being some level of friend with your teachers shouldn't be outright concerning

Gabe

Great ep, and penguin!

Isaac

because i’m funny

LordeofClover777

same! I assumed this was mostly women and queer people listening 😅 shout out to the straight men tho, we got our eyes on you. be cool.

patrick davis

🐧🐧🐧

LordeofClover777

not the place to say this mate, im giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you struggle with social cues

LordeofClover777

why is this so funny, this feels like bullying lmao

LordeofClover777

lesbian woman 💕 and yall are beautiful but I swear thats not what im here for! yall are so funny and honest in that very real true best friend way that reminds me of me and my best friend 💕 also 🐧

eirysse

bi women here! i think you guys are for gays tbh ! love the pod :)

Min

I forget that too! was so shocked that 70% are guys lol

Min

QT and Maya have changed the Twitch scene for the better in so many different ways that there isn't a way to express our thanks. QT, although the DF situation was a nightmare and you regret going live, it was SO IMPACTFUL for me (and many of my friends) that you spoke up. Many of my friends (m and f) that I've made over the years streaming felt so much more comfortable talking about this and speaking out because of how vulnerable that stream was. It opened up a really important discussion about consent that honestly some people werent ready to have (but it's needed!). The only reason people love to hate/be weird with you guys is because they want attention. Being a girl is hard when everyone loves to yell and speak over you.

rs

also definitely penguin

rs

the deep fake convo was very good and very well articulated

Michael Simmons

Hearing Maya describe seeing deepfake porn of herself in a way that reminded her of finding out that she was raped in college really opened my eyes to how the situation felt. That's truly awful. I was always on the side of it awful bad but hearing that clarified how it truly. Thank y'all for being able to speak about it.

Duda

Hi, am a queer woman that watches wine about it! As a queer watcher, weird to put it like that, I don't think I've ever felt the urge to sexualize you guys, that seems to really be a men's issue, think that is because they've always been mostly allowed and encouraged to do so in the outside world and naturally it would be worse online where there's not the same idea of consequence since you're not face to face, if it makes any sense. It is so disheartening to see you guys having to overexplain stuff because otherwise your very clear takes would be twisted into something completely different. Have to say, I quite prefer watching the podcast format rather than watching streams, having to deal with chat even on the best days can be frustrating as a viewer, can't imagine dealing with it as a streamer. I've watched wine about it since it's beginning and appreciate it sooo much. all love (small note: the lighting overall looks much better and like cohesive when it's night on qt's side)

Lezzerlee

Penguins use Beluga Whaling tactics. Beluga Whales are people who harpoon those they have power over. Baluga Whaling is the method. A non Penguin and a Penguin can be Beluga Whales.

Shannon Coutu

Gay women here! My wife and I love the podcast and Alveus content :)

thrillajilla

penguin

Nivaldo Farias

that most definitely is not something easy to talk about, appreciate the courage of bringing up such a heavy and personal experience on the podcast 💝 it helps to shine a light on how there is an unsettling amount of men who do not grasp what consent is and what it really means

Isaac

I am a male and not gay but I am also not attracted to either of you in any way i hope this helps ✊😍

Nivaldo Farias

gayge

Michael Combs

Penguin… I would just like to say how impactful QT pushing live and showing emotion was to me. I understand that it brought a ton more negativity, but it definitely made the right impression on a lot of people (like me) that weren’t blowing up your mentions with hateful crap

KOdat95

Penguin gang ✊🏽

saba_nana

penguin but also slay episode

samantha moore

Polar bear

nymphiekitty

p.s. Penguin

Giggie

penguin go brrrrrr

ModelMoon

Penguin

nymphiekitty

I am not done with the episode yet, im at 1:09. I just wanted to express that not only as a small streamer, but as a woman/feminine person, i can't express enough how meaningful it was that QT, you were so vulnerable and did that initial stream being emotional about the deepfakes. I know that there was a loud majority of people that bashed you for it. But despite there being a majority of women who have been assaulted, it feels like people are quiet or not taken seriously about the real emotional effects it has on people. it can still feel so isolating. Idk if it's weirdly parasocial to say, but just as a victim seeing people you look up to unfortunately openly go through these things BUT still be successful and push thru is inspiring, because the industry and living as a woman in this society can feel so daunting and hopeless. thank you both for sharing with us despite the shit that happens

hawkmoth

yessir

kellyeff

penguin

jub

what is wrong with you

10nita

penguin

Richard Bergemann

I miss Big A. Hopefully he can be forgiven someday but I get why so many people are angry, especially you guys

elysefrog

Penguin

Arrowni

I appreciate a lot how QT discovered Wrestlemania with an open mind and how she could communicate its childish charm to Maya. Some people attack the sport by calling it fake but like Maya says in most ways it makes it better: the athletes are supposed to take care of each other and enact the violence in a controlled consensual way. Also somehow the over-the-topness and occasional cringe is also somewhat fit to QT's sense of humor.

Carmnsndiego

umm, the maya’s teacher lunch story is making me want to cry and scream

David Goleb

Strong penguin vibes from that story

domino

Any other bi men patrons modCheck

pigeonhome

gayge person sounding off in the comments lol. i forget this viewer base isn’t mostly female/queer. it makes a lot of the takes on the deepfake stuff make A LOT more sense. the “i wouldn’t care if it was me” was infuriating to see as a response.

10nita

"i dont think i was groomed, but you tell me" what a sentence lol

jayda

gayge lady sounding off! also he is definitely a penguin!!! excellent, powerful episode. <3

FluffyDoink

penguin for sure

10nita

the wine pour was 10/10

gigi kay

definitely penguin vibes

Megan

penguin

DulkBildos

Maya just wasn't hot enough for Mr. Penguin I guess Sadge

CTMT

Wouldn't the flavor of pickled grapes just be green olives

Kuba

I believe someday you gonna find a place for Alex Jones in your heart <3

Kuba

beluga whale definitely

Alyce Sutherland

Bisexual lady viewer :D

Hydrostedt

Truly a penguin but stayed in beluga whale territory

Nettles

I thought Maya's statement on the deep fakes was very well articulated and the parallel about the violation she felt was very powerful. People who think that they are overreacting clearly lack empathy, their reactions reveal a lot about how ingrained the objectification of women is, how our bodies are viewed as objects for gratification. It feels very defeating.

SetRange

Beluga whale is definitely just a tactic Penguins use to make their victims lower their guard and make their abuse seem ''normal''. I think that teacher was definitely a creep. To me it sounds like he was in his ''testing boundaries'' phase before he decided to go further.

Grace

Bro was a penguin

Larnius

Im Gayge :) but please don’t tell my grandparents 😊

Murphdog53

Penguin, for sure

Ellie Warren

enby viewer of both of your content here ❤️

Victoria Borrego

Lady Gayge, who thinks y'all are adorable, sounding off

TomKam

def beluga whale situation

SENOR_ESCANOR

penguin 1000%

Derek Burbank

Penguin for sure

bakedLaska

QT's right, beluga whaling is when you meet a minor and prep them for when they become of legal age.

Fredrika

I'm bisexual and a woman :3

Dovydas

im :)

Evina Martinez

Gayge present! 🙋🏽‍♀️

Kyle

Penguin

Jeff F.

Gayge represent :)

ghostwritersrus

Pansexual female here! I feel like the algorithm sucks at guessing the demographics tbh Also definitely penguin

Crawhss

Glad to hear Atrioc is doing so much to right his wrongs and beyond. I never really watched him or his content, but from the response from other creators close to him like yourself I get the vibe as QT said “good person did bad thing”. I hope you both can be friends again. Life is too short. Another great pod to listen to on a forklift ❤️

Kyle Lewis

Definitely gay here too 😄 ❤️❤️❤️ I think QT, thanks to your connection to Fear& and your authenticity and empathy, you are starting to build that LGBT fanbase. I know I found you through Hasan and you were a doorway to a new world of entertainment I didn't know existed. Keep being you. Strong, kind, creative, authentic. Girl you got this!

Maria

this whole deep fake thing disgusts me so much and I haven't even been a part of it, I can't imagine how it feels for you guys

Starola

Loved the episode. Just wanted to say that I'm one of the gay guys watching the podcast. I kind of assumed that the majority of the audience for Wine About It are either girls or gay-dudes (or other LGBT identifying people) lol. It's kinda crazy to realize how vastly populated the streaming space is with cis straight men. And definitely Penguin, that guy was weird

CountJest

Def penguin

Erin

i have limited time and cannot respond at the length i’d like to but will address a few of your most interesting points: 2. yes, it’s a low standard to want. it’s the bare minimum. i believe i am perfectly fine to make that generalisation when the vast majority of women are going to want to be treated equally - it’s not a divisive issue. 4. being a mother is incredibly hard work and is commendable. when i say “reduced to” i mean that they are being limited / confined to that position whereas there are many things a women can decide to do with her life aside from having children. so when you stated, “giving away intimacy for money is not good for women that will become mothers”, i interpreted that as you setting that expectation of them having children and limiting them to that. 7. unfortunately a lot of your first comment did perpetuate patriarchal ideas and it’s merely something i pointed out, not something i intended as a personal dig. you stated that, “my intentions are not to cause harm and you believing that because i only expressed my views is sad to me” - my whole argument is that the views which you chose to express are inherently harmful, no matter if you intended them to be or not. i am not trying to upset you, but i enjoy engaging with people who have different viewpoints to me especially when i see them as harmful. i would be more than happy to send you research through discord/twitter if you are genuinely interested. my discord tag is catburys#9735 and my twitter is @toryhaterr. feel free to reach out if you would like to continue the conversation outside the Wine About It Patreon comments. have a good day!

sophistsDismay

im gay and girl :3

steena_riich

definitely penguin

Sorin

Ok, first of all, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my comment and I respect your point of view. There are a few things though that I would like to respond to concerning your comment because I believe you understood me wrong in some of the points that I talked about: 1. "your idea that women expect men to be “walked on by them” is nothing but another part of incel ideology" Concerning this quote in your comment - I didn't say women in general, I said "many women". I don't like to generalize and talk about half of the global population like I know each individual. Also, my intention is in no way to "fuel hatred against women"(I love the women in my life) "you are not entitled to a partner no matter how nice or respectful you think you I agree 2. "trust me when I say that all women want is to be treated like a normal human being." - I didn't generalize and I don't think you should either but I agree that there are women that want to be treated like you said(although being treated like a normal human is a pretty low standard) 3. "your anti-sex work monologue is nothing but another spout of patriarchal ideas that women should not participate in sex work" - I did not say that women should not participate in sex work (everyone should be able to do what they want). I simply said that I don't support it(not in any way including financially) anymore. Also, it doesn't offend me that there are women that sell their bodies online(it simply saddens me) 4."you’re reducing women to how you think they ‘should’ be under the male gaze" - In my perspective, the idea of being a mother is commendable and I don't thinkIit should be viewed like I am reducing women (in a negative way) to that. Anyone can do what they want and women(and men) having control over their decisions is a basic human right that is in no way bad I want a wife, not a slave 5." you believe no one should support sex-work" - I didn't say that but that is correct although everyone has the right to do whatever they want(not my business) I assure you that many men if not the majority(not sure) that consume porn are addicts to some degree and women(that make sexual content) use that addiction to make money(both parties are at blame here - Men of being consumers and Women(that make sexual content) of maintaining that addiction by being producers) 6." when porn is consumed in healthy ways" - I don't believe porn can be consumed in a healthy way(just like I don't belive that fast foohealthilyd in a healthy way - reducing the consumption is healthier but consumption itself is not healthy - this is my opinion and please give me the research that you mentioned because I am interested in it) 7."casting shame on those who do participate in it is a step too far" - aeveryone respect everyones free will, I will use mine to believe that producing highly addicting content for vulnerable people(aka taking advantage of their weaknesses) is not respectable or commendable If my opinion "casts shame" it's not my problem(if someone feels shame from my opinion maybe even they aren't so sure of what they are doing) because I am not intending to shame(I am simply expressing my point of view) My opinions are my opinions and as long as they don't imply hatred towards other people(I hope you didn't see them like that) they should not be seen as a "step too far" Labeling my ideas as being constructed under the "male gaze" and being "toxic" is (with your own word) reducing my points of view to just that (correct me if I am wrong)- That is only a man's perspective(because that is what actually is) and that it should be discredited because of that and that I can't see from the opposite sex's point of view(because I can to some degree) I am sorry that you saw my comments as generalizations but this is what I believe based not only on my experiences but also on other people around me My intentions are not to harm and you believing that because I only expressed my views is sad to me Also, I will not support or have a high level of respect for women that I don't believe had earned it(while believing that selling your body online is not respectable I also respect their decision to do so) Not respecting what someone does with a part of their life does not mean I don't have any level of respect for them as a person

Mia

I'm a gay, transgender woman <3

Britt Carr

Maya. Your math teacher was definitely sketch af 😐

Payton

i’m bi and a woman, hello stats

gp

Penguin

Erin

speaking from a woman’s POV here: “many girls have unrealistic standards” - i believe it’s quite the opposite… i have had so many female friends be impressed by men doing the absolute bare minimum. your idea that women expect men to be “walked on by them” is nothing but another part of incel ideology that is spread by men online to fuel hatred against women and to find some explanation as to why they’re single. it is also a very entitled viewpoint on relationships - you are not entitled to a partner no matter how nice or respectful you think you are. that is life. trust me when i say that all women want is to be treated like a normal human being. your anti-sex work monologue is nothing but another spout of patriarchal ideas that women should not participate in sex work because it somehow offends the men around them. or because “one day they will become mothers”. again, you’re reducing women to how you think they ‘should’ be under the male gaze. we are not living in the 1950s anymore and women have more control over how they want to live their lives. for many, participating in sex work is liberating - especially on sites like onlyfans where they have full control over what they put out. most women do not want to participate in sex work and choose to live their lives privately but it should still be under no mans opinion over what they decide to do with their lives. we’re all individuals. yes, porn-addiction is a real problem and i don’t want to undermine that. but your view is very extreme in that you believe no one should support sex-work just because you didn’t have control on your own consumption of it. that is an individual problem, not the fault of the women (or men) who participate in pornography. there’s been a lot of research that shows when porn is consumed in healthy ways (not used as a crutch for loneliness / boredom, etc) it actually has health benefits for the human mind + body. obviously if you don’t want to consume it then that’s fine, it clearly became unhealthy for you and so i understand why you feel the way that you do. but casting shame on those who do participate in it is a step too far, from my point of view. overall i hope that you can reflect on some of the toxic ideas you hold and maybe seek to change some of your viewpoints. its great that you are supporting QT + Maya in their podcast but i hope you can go further in supporting women and realising that a lot of what you just wrote comes across as harmful and damaging.

viri

penguin for sure

EsSarRe

That beluga whale was craaaaazy

Mitch Mitcherson

Yanno actually i’ve heard stories like Qt’s groomer play out something like 15 times with girls in high school and a guy from Hot Topic, but the Old Navy version is hilarious.

Erin

🐧🐧🐧 also i am a lesbian viewer!! ur horror stories with men make me glad i am not attracted to them! #LESBIANS4WINEABOUTIT also the deepfake conversation always brings up so much anger inside of me. its infuriating that men will always find ways to violate women for their own sick pleasure. ive had bad experiences with men in my life and as i get older i find myself distrusting them and being more uncomfortable around them, which sucks i wish life wasnt like that but its clear that men still have a long way to go in treating women like humans, not objects.

Dieter Roebert

Club penguin really hits different now

GOGOG

surely there are so many comments on this post that nobody will know I'm gay. Also penguin. (also i really didnt think you were rusty last episode)

Purlwise

Also going with penguin. Other topic: I'm curious how the gender ratio is determined. Google analytics thought I was a dude based on interests (guess women don't like video games according to them) and being misgendered by their algorithm amused me so much I never manually changed it

Neil

I'm gayge :)

notactuallyOti

I am gayge and a woman WICKED also probably penguin

Ferah Sherifov

I am going with lawful Penguin on this one

lily lyla

penguin !

VraelRahl

I miss my penguin

Caviar

Penguin

Caviar

IM GAYYYYYYY 🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈

Taizun

Adding a compressor to your audio setup could probably alleviate a lot of the issues you on this one, as that could help with leveling out the audio so it doesn't peak and doesn't sound too low.

Babafunlayo Oke

Also Penguin.

udara cs

yep that's club penguin

Calla D

I can't even express how nice it's been to have Wine About It back. I miss having girlfriends to share stories and bitch about life with and this brings me a little bit of that. I appreciate you ladies and also... Penguin.

Stephanie Davis

I don’t want to associate beluga whales with that.

Matticus

gayge fan and unfortunately penguin

Akumu2100

ya tomorrow.

Akumu2100

great episode. Also penguin

Sam C

the things that QT says in this ep you could not have waterboarded out of me. Great stuff.

Keegan Dant

Love the podcast! Penguin

Jesse Werner

Penguin beep beep

Samantha

Penguin

ClappinNancyReagansCheeks

im gayge :) and an enby :) love the pod and u two :)

Ryan VANDER linde

What happened to the episode they were filming after. Does that come out a different day

David A

Penguin

Murkus

I'm biyge and acege if that counts for something 🫡

Wil

penguin ofc, also qt looks stunning this ep, also also im gayge :)

Kyle Barr

One of the tricky things about Section 230 is that it makes it a lot harder to take content like this down, but it's also the reason why Twitch and YouTube are able to issue copyright strikes instead of having the entire platform shut down because someone played a song in the background. It's tough to balance that.

77katz77

I would say generally most beluga whales are also polar bears (though it's not a requirement), but not all polar bears are beluga whales. Kinda a square rectangle type thing. So let's just go with penguin. Also QT remembered to beep-beep!

Babafunlayo Oke

LOL the cringe sections dont' sound that cringe to me. Thanks for the awesome ep!

rampage597n

I'm Gayge :)

Ivan Gomez

Penguin.

Richard Holmes

I'm gayge :)

maskedmab

🐧 also afab + genderqueer + gayge

allocat5867

I think QT is right about the Math teacher. But probably ... penguin?

Baemaccs

penguin fr fr

Lyesaugh

🐧

Zackla

i’m a proud gayge wine about it viewer 😁

Phlexy

That mfer teaching pythagoreams theorem was 100% a flightless artic bird. wtf is wrong with men

Savannah

Damn, I saw all these comments and was waiting the whole podcast for an in-depth conversation about marine animals. 😂 But anyway, penguin gang. Great episode!

Sorin

It must have felt like you have been violated(in a sense it actually was that) I admit that i started watching Maya because i liked how she looked(I still think she is cute and also that photo with the goat was adorable) but I stayed because I liked her persona. The thing is that many men today isolate themselves from the world by spending their lives online. They become desperate for attention including the sexual kind. Their mental health deteriorates and they resume to being creeps. Its sad if you think it that way but i think its true I kinda understand the craving of female attention because i also struggle with it All my friends are men and we dont have any girls in our social circle I tried Tinder but that was a disappointment Many girls today have unrealistic standards in men because of all the simps that gave them the illusion that they should be treated like queens while the boy lets himself being walked on by them. I hope that you guys feel more bad for them than angry because in some proportion they are the product of the world we live in Also(if anyone cares about my opinion) i dont suport sex work It striped away money, time and mental health from me years on end by tricking my brain into thinkig that I actually had sexual relations with girls that i didnt even know (besides how they looked(even that is questionable)) I dont think sex work should be illegal but i sure as hell dont support it Also selling your most intimate parts of your body online for anyone to see is not respectable Giving away your intimacy for money is not a good thing neither for the women that one day will become mothers and neither for the men that find pleasure in watching them and interalcting with them instead of getting hold of their lives I quit porn for life(already more than 6 months passed) and dont regret it Porn is pleasure with no effort and that is the worst kind of pleasure(and addicting)

Alice

Penguin for sure

Taylor

The conversation about the deep fakes has made me so angry and sad. The idea that people would think to say anything unkind or not empathetic, to the people who experienced this shit makes me legit want to be violent.

Felipe Boubee

Maya's advice that she told QT that QT told Maya about was really smart. Great episode, definitely penguin

melmo

pog. im gayge and female big minority here i suppose..

Ella

penguin also im a lesbian

Taylor

I'm a woman and bi, so shout out to the gay community. Also penguin.

Fluffy Parakeet

Is the audio quiet for anyone else?

Frances Wilson

Maya did such a good job on her background :) Also, this is an important episode. Thanks <3

Mark Britos

gayge listener here!! also it’s definitely penguin

andr9w

gayge listener sounding off!!!

Sarah Smith

Definitely penguin

LimeS0Da

gayge non binary viewer peepopog also penguin

Mitch Mitcherson

another successful yet traumatic podcast. On that note: penguin

KyeLily

Gay trans girl viewer here!

Michael

🐧. Asexuals represent!! So glad y'all posted about the deepfakes at the time. Fuck anyone saying otherwise

miriam lopeZ

i cant believe its 77% male, im here thinking its me and the girlies.

Chris Hall

I would pay for monthly wrestling recaps with QT

Michael

The podcast is great!! The conversations are great! Don’t worry too much over it, it’s definitely my favorite podcast. qt definitely needs a mic stand though lol I bet that gets heavy after a while

Mary

glad we all still romanize our groomers lmao

Olivia

Yeah, I agree. I don't really watch any basketball at all (I stick to hockey) but it's a sports game. I don't really think that doing anything like that is out of the norm. Saw the interview with Caitlin and she was praising Angel Reese too, so it feels like its been blown out of the water a bit by the internet.

Ole

penguin

Dani

good ep. PauseChamp bonus patreon ep any second now

V-Nessa

Penguin and I am lesbian, there are some gays

Ash

well ok non-binary lesbian

Upsidedown

Full Penguin situation

Infidusfiles

Sounding off in the chat as the a gayge and the 23% women audience :) Thank you both for sharing your thoughts on what you went through during the Deepfake incident. I genuinely wish you both the best and continued healing.

Ash

gay :)

Lindsey

Penguin, definitely. Also I am so baffled that y'all still pull majority male viewership. Maybe because I'm a woman who watches so I assume EVERYONE ELSE must be women too, but I appreciate how real you both are.

Gabe

Gadge :)

Zander Corvin

Wait QT did turn it into a joke in an instance at the Streamer Awards; the joke about the link?

JenWithLuv

how is the audience 30% girls.....

logan rx

Definitely penguin

David A

QT talking about Wrestlemania and getting so excited is hilarious

Helen S

Can’t believe it’s only 30% girlies!! Good ep, please continue to whine on wine about it I want to hear your complaints!!! And penguin, definitely penguin

gsmit

really appreciated the coversation around deepfakes and the aftermath

Caligastia

You know, I hate you have to clarify the deepfake joke thing, or are considering never taking a fansly sponsor again. I really abhor content like mukitty's videos. They appeal to the lowest common denominator on twitch/YT, the toxic masses. People who get a hateboner whenever a streamer they don't like gets attacked, often because they're jealous, or the streamer is simply not part of their favorite streamer's clique. It's content that a hater can easily latch on to think they have some sort of argument or justification for their toxic behavior towards a streamer. In reality they're bad arguments, just statements that seem plausible to someone dumb enough or toxic enough to believe and spread on the internet with ill intentions. I hope you guys know that you do have an audience who empathizes with you, are smart enough to understand the clear difference there is in your joke/sponsor and the things which these detractors present as being the same. I know having a platform you have to care about this sort of discourse. I just wish you could give it no attention as it deserves none and just move forward trusting your discerning audience will keep supporting you. Also, Beluga whale...as someone pointed out polar bears are pre puberty, I know to many it's a sorta despicable distinction to make, but I personally hate when words are misused to be weaponized and make a situation seem worse and more scandalous.

Kiwi n Spike

wiiiiine about it

RonJon

People definitely do not forgive Logan Paul

Luperon

collecting nice twitter users FTW 🥹

Kaiyah Papaya

definitely a penguin 🤢

jose cedeno

Penguin

Scrando

Absolute penguin behaviour

Jose Marin

Had to google it and sounds more like a beluga whale. Polar bears are pre puberty I think

Allimalli97

Penguin, also gayge sounding off in the comments

ArborealTiger

gay listener sounding off

Ian

Penguin behavior

Limelight

def a penguin

Stealfydoge

Penguin I fear

Daniel Miller

Penguin gang

Hartzbaltz

Great episode. The Patreon has been such a good idea. btw, huge shoutout to the LGBT+ community on Twitch and Patreon. We exist!))) Penguin gang rise up

Fjodor

dude got fired for sexual misconduct with a minor so def a penguin

Sebastian Flores

penguin

Gerardo Cardenas

wineeeee about it! great episode ❤️

jose cedeno

Partway through the podcast right now but qt describing wrestling hurts my soul.

Cameron Donaldson

def penguin

ellliecopter

penguin tbh

gsmit

fellow half gayge 🫡

itslivgrace

probably penguin

Ivvyandvine

He really caught a stray there

NuttyKiwis

im half gayge (:

xoxo_gems

lmao same I was a little offended for him 😭

Matt Brummett

This doesn't excuse anyone's behavior or any systemic issues around the subject but it was something I thought about: What if women found the same gratification and hunger for naked and sexual content that men do? Do you think if that were the case that men would finally understand why women can't find the humor in having sexual or naked content be leaked about them?

xoxo_gems

Loved the ep! And definitely penguin but in googling the difference, beluga whales build a relationship & emotional connection vs polar bears who are just attracted to 👶🏼. So I do think it’s still a penguin, but leaning towards the beluga whale section because he felt like a friend which probably was his goal. Learned something new from the pod this week 😂

Mitsy

Thank you both so much for sharing!! I just wish the internet was less cringe and more understanding when people are hurt… <3 Also Penguin behavior… icky.

Thomas

🐧 🐧 🐧

Ivvyandvine

Really didn’t expect to take it personally when maya said Harry styles is not hot but here I am

BasedGoomy

Gayge sounding off in the comments as requested! 🫡🫡🫡

Zach

Penguin. Absolutely penguin

Stephanie

And it always baffled me because even putting emotions aside, my mom used to work at an OB/GYN office and there were a few instances of married women finding out their husband's cheated by getting STD's. It's such a health hazard.

Stephanie

I didn't weigh in last week but I've heard more men and women say they don't want to know if they're being cheated on than and that you shouldn't say anything

Moral Panic

every time they say 'audio listeners, she ____' I laugh out loud. this podcast brings me so much happiness

Tfries_

QT! You're both doing great, stop being insecure about the podcast!!! it's the HIGHLIGHT of my week, I'm being serious

Oh_hey_its_meag

Gayge sounding off in the comments 🫡

Phil Hatch II

A stellar episode with lots of chuckles. Also appreciate talking about the more serious topic at the end. It’s always a penguin.

VancityRen

I really appreciate Maya talking about how she feels scattered talking about what happened, it's such an insane unimaginable thing to process, and yet we still find ourselves thinking -if only I could explain this perfectly and choose the right words, you could see me as a human being who deserves empathy-. And that's the unfortunate thing about the internet, the word choice will never be perfect enough because there are people determined to misunderstand. I hope y'all know that the 30%(?) girlies in here support you and empathise and believe in you!!

Pnwoah

Penguin imo

Pax Man

I don't think the way QT responded to the deepfake scandal was a mistake. I think you changed a lot of minds and got the ball rolling for systematic change

Nivaldo Farias

pouring two liters of wine rn

Phuong Le

🎶 wine about it🎵

Pax Man

Also no Caitlin Clark is not a brat. She is extremely humble and in an interview even made a point to say she doesn't taunt opponents and only showboats to her teammates. Which she did after dropping 40 points twice in a row and shattering an NCAA tournament record. No hate to Angel Reese as competitor you do what you gotta do to be motivated she claims she didn't like how Clark handled defending South Carolina (Iowa and Clarks Semi Finals opponent) and that she "took that personally". No need to make up narratives about these amazing women for no reason. They're competitors competing and sometimes things get heated.

Pax Man

Angel* Reese. Yeah I mean her doing it for 15 seconds after Caitlin Clark outperformed her is a tad corny but she won so let her talk her shit. Twitter is over reacting as always

Glitch

I still cant get over the fact WAI is back

Joe Conway

#1 pod is back

Megan

it just got uploaded!

Azzam

peak podcast fr

Kim

Ah that would be fantastic. Thanks for letting me know.

Felipe Boubee

Wineaboudit 🍷

Iván Burgert

Last time they uploaded the audio only version a little bit after the video. I’m sure this one is coming soon

AxialMars

u suck hehe

Matt Brummett

the audio does kinda sound a little crunchy, or maybe that was just Maya yelling XD Favorite quote: QT: I like the snacks Maya: yeah but they're too expensive

Ash

If you hate wine so much just like put whatever drink of choice in a non-clear wine tumbler and no one will know *like personally I don't care but ik other ppl do

Kim

Would it be possible to also upload an audio only version of the uncensored episode? I listen at work with my phone screen off, but patreon only allows audio content to continue playing with the screen off, not video. Thank you!