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Book eight, chapters 4 and 5

🕑 Added 2025-03-19 00:39:06 +0000 UTC

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Grant

Thank you!

Niklas Österljung

Iirc he tilted his head to the side. Kind of like when someone is blocking the view while you're watching tv i guess.

malcolm mclaughlin

Possible continuity error: Carl said just before the race that his head was sticking out the window because of the giant gun hanging over the windshield. Then just a bit later, I think it was the unicorn team that rolled past and said something, but Carl said he couldn't hear because his window was rolled up.

G

I know a lot of things have drifted and been quietly tweaked since the early books, but shouldn't this floor usually be like 60 days? And at least 30ish if things kept pace? How does that work with a hard limit of 8 races?

Synthea1979

Caught a typo: "It took a whole generation before the vultures—in this case, the Operatic Bankers’ Federation—picking apart the orc’s assets" - I think there should be a word like "started" before "picking apart".

dc_ox

I feel the same, I love that Carl and Donut both respect and feel for the NPC's, but to have the Bug Bears also clearly see the situation and be able enjoy friendship for the day .... so bittersweet.

Sam Burnett

That last conversation was so bleak (in a good way)

Catfan

Presumed typos I spotted, in case they haven't been commented on already: "When were weren’t anywhere" should be "When we weren’t anywhere" "The “tumbleweed” part of wasn’t rolling but just moving along the ground, like it was magically gliding. " seems to be missing 'it' after 'part of'. "She had two legs, two, monkey-like arms, " the comma after 'two' is erroneous, or it should have another comma after monkey-like.

PD Doling

Please tell me Lucienne's accent exists just to fuck with Jeff!

quinn

Right

PerfectYarn

Everytime we get past 1 month between chapters I start feeling like a meth head trying to get a fix.

Sam Burnett

That was so good but that last conversation with Carl and Donut about the Bugbears was so sad

Brooke M

Since we are all just hanging out, Matt has mentioned the exhaust system many times. About how an area will fill with smoke and then it gradually goes away due to the ventilation. Do you think this is setting up some kind of scenario where the surface dwellers will be able to go down into the dungeon? Seems far-fetched, but I don’t know why the ventilation system would be mentioned as much.

William Magee

You just know it’s going to be worth the wait!!

Robert B

I am opening this page three times a day. But I'm happy to wait for the good stuff. Hope we will have more soon.

Paulamarie Young

I agree the wait is hard, but it has been a joy to read all of the ideas and theories expressed here. I would like to encourage the audience to continue to bring forth theories and to answer and speculate answers to the various questions. You are making the reading experience in Pateron and the wait so much richer with the discussions. Thank you

Jeff Polley

Does anyone know matts email. ?

QueenofHartbrake

Come on at least give us an April fools “psych” post notification lol

Jacob Shoemake

Awe man I’m already feeling like we’re gonna lose someone else this book.

Derek Reilly

I guess Elle has an "Only Fan" now. Just the one.

Rik Crosby

I'm feeling something with tenticles. Like a giant octopus creature

Rik Crosby

Loved the not say everything that comes to mind line

Rik Crosby

I hope they gave Louis a recreation of the Tiddy Twister

Jesse Maynard

Hey this might be weird but I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of "You will not break me" and looking for ideas thinking of having a bomb or something added to it.

Andy Williams

Sorry for my late response. That is not the series I was thinking of, but it sounds familiar. So many of my favorite series simply stopped or are on extended hiatus. The aforementioned Rothfuss and GRRM series, Locke Lamora, Dawn of Wonder, even the Dresden Files seems to have stalled out. I get the sense that Matt will not let DCC get added to this list.

Melissa Glisan

My uncle's name is Dwight. I am so NOT surprised at the dickish unicorn. Nope. Not one Damn bit.

Ilya Taytslin

Earlier someone asked what happens if Donut accidentally touches the steering wheel while Carl drives -- or vice versa. Anyone who touched the controls on one heat, is not allowed to drive on the next one. My first thought was Raul, but he can be summoned only for a few minutes per day. But now I realized they have another potential driver who, if summoned, will stay with them for the remainder of the floor. Kimaris stuffed animal. Of course, getting a Demon Prince of Sheol to cooperate may be a bit problematic...

Dragan

Let’s go MTG fans!

Dragan

Anyone else getting some Iron Tangle flashbacks?

Lacrosse Nelson

Thank you.

Liam Sondreal

Same!!

William Magee

I hope there’s a hat-tip to Muttly, and Donut hates him of course

Alex Tewes

which is why they are also known as sea-cows

Liam Sondreal

*Soft chanting getting louder and louder* wacky races, wacky races, Wacky Races, WACKY RACES

Ilya Taytslin

Perhaps Donut was not notified right away

Brooke M

Yeah, but being as they have all this dead travel time, it’s human to check your status and messages.

cman759

They pretty much always check achievements in the saferoom

Ranen

Few thoughts: if one of the heat’s isn’t on a train or at least on some train tracks for this choo-choo railroaded adventure— not a dig, I enjoy a good railroad— it’s a missed opportunity. Second, and maybe this is just cause I’m a MTG player with mild autism, but I’m tickled that the racing levels for Carl have come out in time (on patreon) in tandem with the magic the gathering set aether drift, which seems like the gods of dork and nerd smile upon this book, and I’m here for that

Robin

i don’t know if read these comments but thank you for writing these books! i got back into reading in april and have read a lot of books mostly fantasy which is a new genre for me and they were good some were very good but your books i could not put down from the minute i picked them up much to the chagrin of my family who were really happy when i finished book 7 !

Riyon Hutton LMHC

I have not heard of this author but I was born in 79

Richard Boehme

Did the bit where Donut was choosing the featured monsters fate mean to say she had 30 seconds to choose? It said that the audience had 30 seconds to choose, and it clearly was much longer than 30 seconds before they chose :)

Ilya Taytslin

Since Andy never responded, I will stop being coy. "Chtorr" series by David Gerrold. First four books were published in 1983, 1985, 1989 and 1993... and we've been waiting for the fifth book ever since. Well, I stopped waiting long time ago. David Gerrold is 81 years old now, so it is pretty unlikely more books will come out. Except maybe in the unfinished form after his death. BTW, Steve Jackson Games company published "Chtorr" based role-playing game, and Gerrold was generous enough to provide them all his notes on Chtorr ecology, including many creatures which never made it into published books. So if you want to learn everything there is about Chtorr setting, the game is the way to go. I rather hope Matt will do same thing with his Dungeon notes if/when an RPG gets published.

Kat Klausner

Does Hungry Eyes make anyone else think of the dirty dancing soundtrack? I hope nobody puts baby in a corner.

Matt Healey

Yeah, I’m sure that’s what his comment about learning math was about. In order for there to be two teams in the 8th heat you’d need to start with 9 teams.

Riyon Hutton LMHC

?

Riyon Hutton LMHC

Grease Monkey

Riyon Hutton LMHC

I don’t know if anyone has a recording but Jeff read it at the UW BOOKSTORE

Riyon Hutton LMHC

Darn spiders

Riyon Hutton LMHC

They like romaine lettuce too

Riyon Hutton LMHC

Happy belated birthday 🎂 and many more

Riyon Hutton LMHC

The AI did make several significant comments about investment bankers …

Riyon Hutton LMHC

That was a great question! I asked the tattoo question. Jeff’s expression said it all

Riyon Hutton LMHC

I can’t wait for the tattoo film release

Riyon Hutton LMHC

Matt, it was great to meet you and Jeff on Monday. Quick question, when you said that you were trying to “erase “ the Trailer Park Fairy Tales book, were you being serious? If so, I’d better buy a Sheol case! Calling it now. Mordecai will be a grease monkey

Benicio del Sanchez

De-Sanguinators of Dismay plush toy you say?

Dragan

Slime Time was renamed to Hekla because it’s what they used on her and it’s kinda funny in a twisted way. Bring back the body and clockwork triplicate it.

SgtDanny

When they introduced "moves" for the first time, donut recommended "slime time" and Carl said it was her favorite move from what they practiced so far. Think it was book 2.

Ilya Taytslin

When did that happen? Sounds vaguely familiar, but can't place it.

Ilya Taytslin

Very likely Matt has not finalized all the achievements and messages yet -- or at least had not done it when he posted Chapters 4 and 5. But in the finished book, Carl and Donut probably should read their notifications before reaching Hungry Eyes Village. Matt, are you listening?

SgtDanny

When will it be "slime time"? It's donuts favorite move that we never heard from again.

Brooke M

I’m wondering… in their shoes I think I would have checked all my achievements and messages on the long slow drive. Knowing I couldn’t open my boxes, I would still check. I’d also immediately reach out and try to message Katia, and that pang of not being able to would be very genuine.

Nick Harrison

At the risk of sounding like a pretentious nerd: when you use the scientific name for manatees the genus gets capitalized but the species is lowercase. "Trichechus manatus" instead of "Trichechus Manatus"

Rebecca Newsome

I am looking forward to his French accent.

Michael T

I wonder how Agatha's going to get off this floor. Can she bypass the races altogether and teleport straight to the stairwell after the final heat is finished, or will she be forced to choose a vehicle and not finish last like everyone else?

phillip armenta

I never thought I'd be laughing so hard at a conversation about the color of Elle's nipples. Haha.

Terra

Aaaaaaaa just caught up matt you are not letting up with the interesting NPCs! These guys are interesting! Can't wait to see what upgrades the Royal Court will get :D thanks for the chaps as always matt!!

EliteGeek

I can’t wait to hear Jeff complain about Matt trying to kill him with the Team Sparkle voices.

Douglas Erdman

Shouldn't there also be a warning for fairy class mobs doing more damage to Carl due to his Goblin Pass tattoo?

Tyler Durham

I was under the impression it was because of whatever is happening with the arena and being a guest combatant.

Ilya Taytslin

I think you are reading too much into this. The manatee is an indirect threat because it can destroy the truck

John Coyle

When one reads the next three passages together, it suggests there might be something wrong with Rend. (1) Anyway, these manatee things have been changed slightly to reflect their given names. They’re a real danger to any passing vehicle or mount, but both of you guys are so OP at this point that Miss Talulah is hardly a threat. At least not a *direct* threat. … (2) I pulled Rend out of storage, and the large meatball had immediately moved to the side of the road and fallen in the water trying to eat the pieces of manatee gore. I’d had to jump in to haul him out. The damn thing weighed a literal ton. Now I had him sitting on the cart, using his body to hold a piece of wood in place while I secured a crossbeam. He giggled furiously every time the board vibrated with the drill. Donut was complaining loudly about how much he now smelled because he’d gotten some of the bug’s innards on him.   … (3) From the center of the trailer, Rend remained. He’d been run over by the tumbleweed, and he’d actually taken a small amount of damage from it, which was unusual.

Ilya Taytslin

You are right. It is inconsistent

David K. Storrs

Sure, but she's also smart. Children don't develop unless you teach them, and it's quite possible to do it gently.

Robin Draycott

"“Gah!” Dwight shouted as the whole thing lurched. We all dived out of the way, much faster than it had been moving before." - this doesn't make as much sense as it should, and needs to be looked at again.

Truedragon5374

Because Otto just became a contender in an arena on a later floor. Because of that audience participation thing. It was all in this post.

Truedragon5374

Considering the media board sounds alot like 4chan, very likely.

Truedragon5374

I saw you at the University bookstore, it was awesome. At the event I asked what Ferdinand's class was. I know he was that Queen's familiar, but wasn't he drafted to the NPC team on the last floor because they needed a Crawler to make the system work? So shouldn't he have gotten the full Crawler treatment, with a class and everything? He is an enhanced Earth native in the dungeon now. My vote is for Hollywood Agent. A support class that grants buffs to a small group in exchange for a percentage of thier passive resource regeneration (health, mana, stamina, ect.) Also good chapter, can't wait for thr next one.

Tyler Leslie

Maybe there will a retcon but in the first chapters it said they would start out with 7 opponents but from the Heat results it looked like they started out with 8 opponents

Keid

I mean, the AI gets to run a popularity contest and make people fight each other to the death against their wills. Basically exactly what it was designed for. It has gradually been pulling more people into that purview over time

Keid

She's also just so incredibly young. Like, she's literally 4 years old and has only been sapient for like, a matter of weeks? You don't really expect a 4 year-old thrown into a life or death struggle to know any better or to be able to cope any better. And while teaching her might be nice in theory, that kind of process tends to be a slow, and they might not live that long.

Janette

Vrrrrroooommmmm

Teal

Liking the chapters jumping into action and meeting newly awakened NPCs!

Chris Abel

Ohhhhh fun idea!

Chris Abel

The scope was so wide last book, it’s nice to have a more narrow scope so far! Reads great so far.

David K. Storrs

@Nyquistfrequency "Donut, chill" is short for "Donut, at this particular moment you are overwrought and need to calm down." That's not the same thing as "Donut, what you said just now was mean. Moreover, you say mean and insulting things a lot. Please stop." Which in turn is a lot gentler than, "Donut, it's a good thing that you are so useful or no one would put up with you." Which, while true, isn't something you should say to a person with abandonment issues as bad as Donut's. I suspect that Donut's behavior actually has little to do with her being a cat per se and is actually a defense mechanism. She subconsciously assumes that everyone is going to leave her so she acts out against them as a pre-emptive way of showing that it doesn't matter if they do. That is some damn fine writing on Matt's part.

Levi

Thanks for the drop. Never apologize for the waits, life happens and that’s the priority, not us Crawler goblins looking for a fix. Also, I wouldn’t say you’re using the term heats incorrectly, we call all the races leading up to the finale heats in my area, so maybe it’s a regional thing.

Geekdumb

I figured it was a cut and paste problem but the bottle sounds like more fun

Kendra Colgate

BRB gotta write down Otto Banking 3 on a sticky note

DB

How is Donut able to see all these fan created snicks? Does her media board let her see them?

Michael T

My prediction (also based on nothing) is that he'll be assigned some weird formless race, like a primal or a changeling or something. So he'll either manifest as his original skyfowl self, or he'll be stuck in that creepy blank changeling form for the whole floor. Either would be pretty funny.

mgf1439

Came here for this too. "Dwight shouted as the whole thing lurched. We all dived out of the way, much faster than it had been moving before." Matt was on the bottle when he built this sentence.

Ilya Taytslin

The first heat already had a time limit, just a very generous one -- 6 hours. I expect that will either decrease with each heat, or decrease in proportion to the track length.

Ilya Taytslin

She didn't, actually. Mostly, Tserendolgor just ignored Donut.

Ilya Taytslin

If that were the case, he would have mentioned it already. Too important to leave unsaid.

Ilya Taytslin

Obviously not horror-uplifted manatees!

Ilya Taytslin

"not naming any names" Starts with "Ch", by any chance?

Leah

But why do I need to remember Otto Banking Unit 3!?!? God dammit, Matt!

Jim Robinson

Didn't Rend push back on her a lot? Not the pet, but the dead Crawler?

Iskander Sayapov

When AI is describing the manatee. “Uplifting” project that accelerates the evolution of animals. The mosquitos building a bio computer is a big giveaway.

granndfunk

Wait, where?

Nyquistfrequency

She’s been called on it dozens of times, both from crawlers and npcs. Heck, carls saying “Donut, chill” is second only to “god damn it donut”

Nyquistfrequency

Hard choices and threading a different needle… that makes me really nervous. After this many books I’ve really grown to love a lot of these characters.

Patryk Akers

A birthday present from Matt Dinniman??? Fuck yeah

GoldenShoppingBag_101

Its okay for her to be mean because she's hilarious

David K. Storrs

"We" is a strong word... :p

William Magee

Thanks a million, Matt!!

Simon

My theory is it's because she's a cat. Everyone assumes a cat will be a mean, obnoxious asshole. We love them anyway.

Pockman

I’ve got an evil idea for maybe some of the later races: a time limit. Those last four hours would be “so boring” for viewers and the in-game audience. But I don’t think incorporating that until the last 3 races or so would be “fair”

Lawrence

Last I checked, a bunch of offworlders are trapped in the torture machine of the 18th floor, so this seems like a loophole they'd want to explore. What the AI gets out of it I'm less sure.

C0bra$

Thank u for the story

Arwyl Nym

I burst out laughing at this: “Unfortunately, the horn wasn’t a normal honk, but a recording of a gangster voice saying, “Make way for the big shot!” followed by a chicken squawk and the rat-a-tat shooting sound of a tommy gun.”

Geekdumb

shouted as the whole thing lurched moving much faster than it had been. We all dived out of the way.

Dang_It_Bobby

So the AI is allowing these in crawl representations of creatures “fight” their real world antagonists in the Arena? The manatee will fight this Otto guy that was going to arbitrarily kill the whole planet with poison after creating it in the first place because it’s convenient solution. I can see why the AI might take umbrage with that line of thinking.

BelligerentGnu

It is so satisfying for the facade to be ripped away and the bullshit dispensed with. Just them being able to talk about how monstrous the game runners are is huge.

waterkangaroo

ooh I'm excited to find out what this Arena thing is, and why the AI is pulling 18th floorers into it 👀 also, did the AI perhaps promise the NPCs entrance to the Pineapple Cabaret as a prize? I want to crawl into the AI's head, I'm so interested in its motivations, especially knowing what we know about the 17th floor!

waterkangaroo

pretty sure these two have Eastern European accents, and most Eastern European languages don't have "a" or "the"

waterkangaroo

not long enough!

waterkangaroo

*Donut voice* HIIIII MASHERMELLO! I dunno, everyone keeps saying that it's getting more insane, but these rants seem pretty hinged to me 🤔 info dumping about a cool planet, and then shitting on and threatening the capitalist pigs that monetized it and abused said planet...can the AI please come to our world? AND YES CHAPTER 37 IS MY FAVORITE CHAPTER IN THE WHOLE SERIES

David K. Storrs

> Elle: Donut, I love you, but have you ever considered not saying everything that comes to you the moment it pops in your head? Yes! Donut is finally being called on her bad behavior. This is the second time in eight books -- the first was Carl, five minutes after Donut became sapient. At the time, she promised to be "less of an a**hole", but we have seen how well she kept that promise. Donut is a complicated character and I'm glad she's here, but I've never understood why she gets no pushback from anyone while being as obnoxious and mean as she is.

Magic Jake

Wild random prediction is that Mordecai is going to take some sort of form where he won’t be able to make potions this floor.

David Jones

Keep up the good work, Dinnimaster! My family appreciates you :)

David Jones

Hear hear! Matt's doing conferences, interviews, spending time with his family, etc. He has a life, let him live it! Let him enjoy this fame he's starting to celebrate :)

Alex Tewes

I don't suppose there is much pointing saying that manatees just graze on sea-grass?

Vaughn Mortensen

You don't have to name any names, we all know you mean Rothfuss and GRRM

Andy Williams

Holy shit, I have been a fan of this series for a while now, but just joined Matt's Patreon. It seems like there was some angst about the three-and-a-half week lag between his last chapter drop and this one, and he even apologized for it in his comments. All I can say is that, based upon the literal decades-long wait for some of my other favorite series to get their next installment (not naming any names), maybe we should cut Matt some slack and be grateful for what we have. Matt is lightning fast, and the quality of his work is second to none. He has nothing to apologize for.

Dawson Lynch

> “She’s dead. We’re dead,” Radoslav said, taking a deep drag. “I never thought we had real chance anyway.” I think there may be a missing “a” between had and chance?

Grigorius of Tomsk, Devourer of Pop-Tarts, Victor of Many Battles

"the quote was pretty strange. “Choose your enemy wisely, for you eventually become him.” " My fan theory: the vacuum spell isn't just for killing, it's for killing any enemy *and* absorbing its traits, like in that movie "The Fly." And of course, Carl won't read the spell's description before he uses it on an actual enemy - or a biological mount. I sense some body horror ahead hahaha Also, Elle's super-creepy super-fan reminds me of some *incredibly* disturbing guys I've met at Comic Cons over the years... I'm guessing Matt met them too. 😅

Crystal Smalling

I just restarted from the beginning of book 1 to get my fix, and this rolled into my inbox. Yay!

Iskander Sayapov

Love the “Children of Time” shoutout! If you haven’t read the trilogy, do yourself a favour. Excellent audiobooks as well!

Ilya Taytslin

Lucienne is a fairy. She does 20% more damage to Carl thanks to his goblin tattoo. Just reminding everyone

Ricky Rich

Mi Scusi, Mi Scusi

David Cline

Tftc. Getting a good/horrible feeling about this floor.

Denis Deniss

God I really hope that one soother guy is there the whole floor

Hellmonkey

HI KANGAROO! It's Mashermello from reddit. And yeah, I'm always up for the AI going off on some unhinged rant. The miner's union one and the Growler Gary smackdown are still 2 of my favorite chapters.

Micah Culpepper

Screeching Death Manatee has a 565 word description for anyone curious.

Ren

Di wa ta!

Ryan

I'm relieved that although I wanted biological, Carl and Donut went with mechanical. It seems that the rules are a bit more loose with mechanical mounts, whereas with biological, dead is dead

Stephen Greenwood

Don't tell Scotty.

Karl Shlagel

Scotty doesn’t know.

Ryan wheeler

God I hate when these come out because I consume them so fast and then it feels like it takes so long before the next one but then again I'd wait forever if it means it's up to the expected quality of this incredibly amazing series

Avery Howell

He's a notorious pantser lol. But he has a spreadsheet for things like loot boxes and inventory

Boredfundiesnark

Great chapters. Love all the details that lets me picture what’s going on.

A

Good stuff!

waterkangaroo

GOD I could sit and listen to the AI go off on tangents for hours :3 I could read an entire book of it just ranting about various parts of the galaxy 😍 go off king, I'LL appreciate your descriptions even if Crawler Bitch Boy Carl won't

Justin d

I like that this format of floor doesn't allow the power creep to "just make it easy." There are tough choices and I can feel the anxiety building already 😐

Sparks

I LOVE that Elle has a super fan!

Magic Jake

Woooooo!

Stephen Greenwood

Pretty good. Excited to see what loot they're getting in the next chapters. Still hoping for a ghost ship style trap

Bill Holmes

Thanks Matt! Looking forward to seeing you at Scares That Care!

Treamayne

Thank you as always. Also, maybe consider putting notes up-front with a "Begin Spoilers" tag so spoiler avoiders don't have to scroll down. PS: DAC files are still missing from the eReader/Book files tags.

Justin Coley

What is your process? Do you have a very detailed outline to write this fast?

Chelsea K.

I’ll see you in Williamsburg! I can’t wait!

Alys A

You are going to make us cry with these "tough choices".

BabetteRochelle

Love it!! Keep up the great work!!

Christopher Anselmi

I've peaked 🫡

Ryan

Nice!

Brittney Lamsargis

Typo: “And there were other times, too,” Radoslav added. “When were weren’t anywhere.

Christopher Robert

"imitate 100th of my power." Grammar. Should at least be "a 100th" or "one hundredth"

jacob

Mongo punching the horn cause he’s bored is 10/10

Matt Romanowski

Glurp glurp!

Michael Landesman

Yay!!

Shelby Barkley

I'm at trivia right now and I literally screamed when I got this notification

Stephen Greenwood

I paused Eurotrip to read this.

DB

Yeeesss

VincentC

OMG! Thank you!

Klaus Alexander

Relistening to Book 7 before I dig into these. You're dope, Matt. New Pineapple chapter was awesome!

Paul pollard

Stay safe out there Matt.

Anna Fleming

Glurp glurp

Kat Klausner

Ah, I’m so very happy and excited, thank yooooou!

Eric DiPaola

LET'S GO

Some Dude

Wooohooo, right in the nugget

Andrew

Fuck yeah!

Michael Turner

Daddy Dinniman, thank you.

James Kevin

Ah sweet day new chapters!

Christopher Anselmi

FIRST??? HELL YEAH


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