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BD - Chapter 214 - Bee Committed!

🕑 Added 2024-12-25 20:05:01 +0000 UTC

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Durphymcbob

I mean in the description it says that they can be altered and crafted to gain different stats and effects who says the golems can't have some armored plates built into them. Even if it's just leather, bone or even wood not just metal. They could be crafted to be decent fighters are customizable.

phantom

Fair enough though that was already their plan.

phantom

You think a knight bee is going to withstand a slash from a tower guard? Also since you mentioned armor they could just put that on them. True wax is not the most durable though even made out of magical honey probably. Still saying they are just for carrying things is selling them short.

Darius Sanguna

Have to wonder when Champions and Mage-Knights are gonna crop up hehe

Darius Sanguna

The golems are more like Carriers, not Battleships. Remember, they're made from WAX. They probably also aren't very fast, so against real tower guards they're prolly going to get shredded. At best they're on par with unarmored Karnuq.

Durphymcbob

By the extras of the rabbits I meant like the bones and guts they can't eat after they hunt and gut them, not the living rabbits, to basically add more to the compost pile to help the death mana form.

phantom

A big reason offense is favored in nature. While having strength that destroys our bodies seems counter productive to survival. A predator won't be willing to oppose us unless they can survive the damage we do. which means that strength is not needed to be used unless a predator is overwhelmingly powerful. There is weaknesses in that adaptions will overlap. But since the berserkers are so strong; and likely overwhelmingly so with death attuned butcher bees; this means they can force the hunger to give up a whole venue of attack.

phantom

So when thinking about the effectiveness of berserker bees that are death attuned butchers I realized something. The thing about one thing not being able to counter the hunger actually works in favor for Bellisar not wanting bees to die. because the hunger has to make trade offs for these adaptions. The thing is the hunger spawns with these adaptions before combat begins. So you can use their sheer power to intimidate the hunger into making suboptimal shades. So basically. Use the bees once. The hunger will be forced to take suboptimal adaptions to avoid the berserkers killing it in future fights. and then you don't need to use the bees against the new shades.

phantom

"have the kurnuq just put the extras of the rabbits" Not happening. If they can't successfully hunt the excess rabbits they are certainly not going to manage to force the still living rabbits into a room full of predators. You either hunt the rabbits enough or you have an infestation eating your stuff. Why do you think a certain tower master was so afraid of giving them?

phantom

"I don't like him because he uses his clearly superior power (probably because he is more worshipped) to surpress and intimidate weaker gods and forcing them to do what he wants." This is nonsense. He gave into Bee's demands when she was clearly exploiting the deal. He has been nothing but fair and kind until this point. Of course he is going to be furious when after showing kindness to those in weaker positions he ends up getting mocked and belittled do to reasons that weren't his fault.

Durphymcbob

Yeah that makes since, Belissar is laering from the circle how to "Properly" build the tower, not just building, alot of strong monsters and a strong foundation, but now thinking about thaey interact and power eachother up, like the death room giving the life ycle to his tower, making the life stronger, or a water room to cover his weakness to fire,and etcetera

phantom

Resource expense is not why I said it was a luxury. It is because the golems already fulfill the role of front lines that the knights would have been valued for. likely better than the knights since they don't have to worry about being harmed. Having a strong bee would help. But helping is not the same as fulfilling a missing role. Hence why I said they are a luxury.

Beeees!

Really love the knight evolution. Truly feels thematically like the next step for lancers. Tho tabky fir a bee might still not be very tanky

Tsorov

While that is true now, the honey production is growing steadily with new queens being born. Not to mention all the new perks Bellissar is getting. So, while in the short term they don't have that much potential, a second evolution with far greater strength would definetly be useful to the hive of hives. I'm not saying he chose wrong, because the death room will have a gigantic impact on his tower if we understood it right, but knights are definetly a viable choice

Durphymcbob

I think the reason Fire was so angry and upset about was mostly becasue one, he is basically the concept fire personified, so him having a fiery temper makes since, and that the gods kinda act like royality and have a hiearchy. Fire is more than friendly and kind when you you are on his good side we have seen that, but we fire will burn you if you mistreat it, like what flower did. I mean how else would the concept of fire as a person react to someone treating him like dirt. Im sure if Flower came in and apolgized for giving belissar a bonus for comleteing the quest before his, and maybe shared half a jar of mead with him while they talked, everything would have been fine.

Durphymcbob

yeah we can't really afford the honey it will probably take to evolve lancers into knights of all things while we still are evolving assassins and captians, while directing beepower to also crafting the beeswax golems.

Tsorov

The exploding part isn't the one I have a problem with, I don't like him because he uses his clearly superior power (probably because he is more worshipped) to surpress and intimidate weaker gods and forcing them to do what he wants. Had he demanded an apology and compensation for the mocking in a more respectful way I would have been on his side. But the way he conducts himself doesn't speak of a likable character. He reminds me a blt of Frieza from DB

phantom

The knights are a luxury once the golems are operational. Stop fretting over it Belissar.

Black Esper

Thanks for the chapter and Merry Christmas 🐝

Black Esper

Well, I like Fire. He is true to his feelings and wouldn't have exploded without Flower gloating to him that she got the mead first. 😉

Durphymcbob

To the Death Room: Yeah, i can see that, the magic of the tower basically equalizing the mana/ soil nnutiance thruout the tower,having both sizes of the coin in the tower proply make each effect stronger. Onto the mead: Yeah he might not have the exact traditions or mead knowledge of our world but i can definitly see him in the furtute basically finding out all of the secrets to making the perfect mead.

mly85lc

And if manipulation of bee larvae stages brings change how whille that able to bees already on tower? Will some bee queen... or better yet bee worker/tender pick up a new piece of information and blazes a new paht forward?

mly85lc

So-o.... since hives of hives don't have reasons deficit.. how and for what would those reed bee larvae compete?.. how could MC change/direct theyry behaviour to bring out best of them to hive of hives?

Thomas V.

That, and the description called it “a Lancer bee that’s no longer content with X”, which means that Lancers can evolve into these without having to pick this as an option. And now that everyone knows that Knights are possible and what their requirements are, I know for a fact that the queens will be working *very hard* to get these guys. I can’t wait lol

TheLostGolem

Correction. We don't get the Bees of the hexagonal table yet. I have high hopes for the future.

Tsorov

I understand it like this: Because he will have a death room, his Tower will have some kind of circle of life, with things rotting and composting so that other regions of his Tower are able to thrive off this death attributed room. To the mead: I don't think Bellissar has these traditions, since he made the mead like he made it with his master. What he could do is experiment what works while he tries to fullfill the mission of the god of fire (who we don't like because he threatened the queen of queens).

Durphymcbob

He might have set up 2 rooms one for the kurnuq to hunt in on their floor and 1one for the burtcher bees to live in. Have rabbits spawn in both rooms for each to hunt and have the kurnuq just but the extras of the rabbits that they can't eat in the burtcher bee room, to help with the process of making changing it over to death attribute.

Durphymcbob

Thanks for the Chapter! Its nice to see That belissar now has some more quests to start now that he has basically gone thru most of them. And he wants to start ramping up his mead production hey, he probably should ask the kurnuq for some larger glasswear or cermics as that is what mead was tradiitonally fermanted in, Im sure their might be some glassblowers as they are from a Fire Dungeon. Has he only has the couple dozen or so glass jars that came with the apairy right? I'm sure. Plus Bee gave him a quest to have some a queen move into The flower ones home! I'm sure that will make Tarwantard very happy, lets just make sure the hives she builds are up to snuff, and she has some mana flowers, all of Bellisars bees love those. And Tarwantard also got some quests? i wonder what those quests are? And finally the burtcher bees, he it seems that the gods have a bit more control of what options they give when its a reward from a quest, so of course Bee, would give the best dungeon master what he needs to build a great hive of hives! and if i read this right having some death rooms will basically make all of the rooms will alot of of live in them more vibrant and effective right?

Fernando Oliveira

Thanks for the chapter. Loved it. So I understand belissar wanting to unlock the bee knights but that can wait. With the karnuq helping the front lines are momentarily secured. The butcher bees sound awesome. Can't wait to see the death room set up. Does belissar plan to set one up in a new meadow room or an orchard? I'm guessing the meadow but the orchard would be a cool alternative, could lead to some poisonous apples of death. Lol.


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