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Chapter 72: Hiding Like We’re Criminals

🕑 Added 2022-02-15 08:00:04 +0000 UTC

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Nikola

Ewan is turning out to be such an interesting character and Sonia is that one friend you have to keep back or she will swing first and ask questions later. I see Ilyana has picked up on Tori's personality ticks that set her apart from anyone her age should have. I find her point of view intriguing because it's the story so far filtered though the lens of someone who not only doesn't know what Troi or readers know but with all the current worlds culture and understanding of said world on top of that she's 15. Ilyana still has a somewhat narrow perspective but that's to be expected she's still trying to place everything into a neat category, which would explain her skepticism with the whole Piers thing. I find it funny that Tori has treated Ilyana just as well as Piers but she doesn't consider herself as a possibility as Tori's "partner" then again that comes around again to her limited perspective and experience. I'm hoping to see Piers become closer with everyone in the group it would help him from becoming dependent on Tori, like he was when he just had Axton he would shut himself up in his room until he got back. Anways I have a mental image of Piers saying "Excuse me sir these are my emotional support teenagers" with a completely straight face.

Deepal

I like their relationship as well, if it becomes sexual, nothing wrong. High school 14-19, seniors at times date juniors. Many countries age of consent to marry is 16.

Brian P.

Nah, he's got to think long term as well as short term. As-is he punched Fabian and got away with it, but Fabian ALSO got away with creating a riot-like situation that caused several other injuries and traumatized Ilyana. If Ewan hadn't thrown that punch Tori and company wouldn't have to cover for him and Fabian could well be on his way to no longer being the Prince's knight. That's a much, much better outcome than a single punch to the face.

Brian P.

I think it’s healthy for the author to have a buffer beyond Patreon; it lets her take vacations like the one coming up or lets her rework a chapter or arc when needed.

Oxylus

This whole series of comments and replies is just yikes. How is anything that Piers has done illegal? Why do you keep making up reasons to dislike the situation? If you don't like it, fine, don't add false information to justify your silly rant.

Halycon404

In case you didn't get the subtext. Which seems likely. Unless you are the author in disguise I've very little respect for a hypothetical first person who tells a hypothetical second person to stop giving money to a hypothetical third person just because they don't like the hypothetical second one. I don't even know if there's a word or phrase for that it's so twisted. I don't like you so you shouldn't give money to a person I do like. What even is that.

Halycon404

Because I do actually like to give money to stories I like. And I do like this story this one issue aside. I've also said, multiple times now, the author can write any story they want. If you really don't want me to pay the author for goods, I can do that. But here's my. counter offer. If the author does want me gatekeeped I'll pay them. For any reason. No need even to explain. Just a simple go away, public or private. I'll put a calendar reminder in for six months from now to cancel my subscription and they'll continue to get money each month at the current level without me reading another word or commenting on a single thing. Just for being willing to say it. I'd respect that.

Shinde

You mean I could be reading another 8+ chapters, but I'm not? This is truly the worst of all timelines. Where is the "Toss ALL the Coins (and Dollars) to Your Writer" tier? Somebody, help. Slightly-serious-joking aside, I'd pay money for that. This is by far my favorite novel right now, and honestly I haven't binged something this good since the first half of Worm. I feel like this is going to end up somewhere in my Top 10. Looking forward to the remainder. Don't forget to take breaks and keep up your mental/physical health.

abowden

Why are you still here? If you hate the story so much, and have for 50 chapters or so why did you donate money in order to read it in advance? Why not just... Stop? I don't get it. Aila isn't going to change their story because one very vocal individual has a problem with it, so why all this Angst? Why the wailing and gnashing of teeth?

Noon Martini

Chapter 1 says victory conditions sometimes result in less than a 100% love score and that results in business partnerships and political alliances, so I’m thinking Tori is crushing it and Alessa is suckage. I think that’s why Alessa keeps getting her harem to conflict with Tori’s friend group. It’s a head to head battle.

Halycon404

I am combative toward the apologetic readership for a man who keeps doing the same thing, even when told no. It was not a, "Tee-hee, no!". It was a hard this will never be a thing no. To anyone in the story who's asked it's been a no. "But Piers loves her!". She said no. "But they are perfect together!", she said no. "But it could be a chaste relationship with no sex!", she said no. "But I waaant it and you're pointing out things that I don't agree with and will make up completely hypothetical ways there relationship could go to avoid those pitfalls!", she said no. This is what I'm combative and upset about. The story itself, I may stop reading. It's got plenty of other readers. It'll go on exactly as the author wants it to. One way or another. Romance is the land of make believe where men behave in ways that are often illegal towards women, and everyone says it's so romantic. Everyone knows it's problematic. There's jokes and memes galore. Yet readers keep doing it. "It's fantasy, not real!! It doesn't affect real life!!". And then 50 Shades of Grey more than tripled the market for bondage gear and toys.

Thanks! Amit's right - I'm on like chapter 80+. :)

Just to confirm, their current/physical age difference is 4 years. They met at 14 and 18 respectively. Age of majority in the fictional empire is 16. However, Tori was born and raised in the states and 18 as the age of adulthood is firmly engrained, so there is her own cultural disconnect.

Amit Gupta

This does come across as combative and quite intentional at that. It feels like you're trying to strongarm the author into writing your TT fanfic for you. There are good ways to criticize and bad ways, and this is a horrible way to criticize something you disagree with, by essentially equating it to pedophilia. If you disagree with the author's vision for the series, might be that the series is not for you. I for one do not have any issues here. But please do not come into the comments section and start a flame war over as it leaves a bad taste in the community. Having opinions is not a crime, but you need to express it better and more importantly, constructively.

Halycon404

The author has made it clear there will be no relationship. Multiple times. But I want you to scroll up in the comments of this. You'll find people who think Piers wants to marry Tori. You'll find people who think Piers should find love with Tori. You'll find people who think they should be some definition of partners. Even though Tori has explicitly told Piers no. And anyone who asks. I am not judging the author. The author stated what was going on clearly. I am judging the readership that will not let it be. Who still want Piers and Tori to be a thing. Who'll find any excuse for Piers even though he was told no. Everything Piers does is okay to the readers because he's hot, and rich, and powerful, and because he loves her. Everything is forgiven because he loves her. It's ridiculous. Of course on the other side of the story, the actual main plot, it's nothing but all the problems love causes. The reverse harem over there is country wide problems and abuses of power for days. But Piers and Tori are soooo cute together, and he loves her.

Different Nick

It's not illegal where i live? At least wasn't 20 years ago. So no, while it would be unusual i wouldn't have a problem with 19 year old in a relationship with 15 year old. But i do agree with you about the trend in the books. You can avoid most of them by avoiding anything anime/Japan related on the cover, in book description or the reviews.

Tjark

You're complete illegal argument doesn't make sense. This is a fantasy world. If you want legal relationships then read other books. And seriously there was never ever even the slightest hint about the relationship being sexual. Are you going to tell me an emotional relationship between two people (like BFF or brother/sister) is not moral because one of them is a teenager (not a kid!) and the other a young adult? And yes there are a lot of books that depict some shit with your example being one of them. But this one has nothing of it. What's wrong with Piers liking a girl younger than him? Up to this point there has been nothing out of the ordinary in their relationship. The way you're describing this looks to me as if Piers is constantly pushing Tori to have sex with him and the author is saying it's okay because he's hot. Which is quite frankly ridiculous.

Halycon404

I am sorry if I come off as combative. But oops, 19 year old Piers and 14, now 15 year old Tori.. is illegal in almost every single industrialized country in the world. And do we really want to use China's number as the moral center considering? It is all sorts of morally questionable behavior. This is something to be upset about. I read a lot. A lot a lot. Multiple genres, several books a week. There is a rise of age questionable relationships in romance, it seems to be the last taboo. Sometimes there is sex, sometimes it is chaste. But it is always filled with apologists in reviews who'll find some reason it's okay. I'm not even joking. I have read novels where bad parents have sold their underaged daughter into sexual slavery, but it's okay because the hot rich man loves her so much he bought her. It is always a hot rich powerful man, and that makes it okay. Let's go down the checklist shall we. Piers, 19, Tori 15. Illegal everywhere that's not currently the center of human rights abuse controversies. Piers, hot. Described that way many times. Rich, most certainly. Powerful, yep. So it's okay. Noone cares, cause Piers in his own special way cares deeply for Tori. Lewd or not there are absolutely zero, not a single one, problem with that. And I'm searching for a problem? No one sees anything wrong with this even though it's illegal where they live? It's perfectly a-okay for a 19 year old to be jealous of a 14-15 year old

Noon Martini

Piers is not 27. He’s 18. Tori is 14 (this chapter she’s 15). You are painting a picture of something lewd and that is a you issue and not a story issue. You are also really combative in these comments and that’s not cool. I think the issue is you’re looking for an issue. If you keep looking to have a big ol problem with this story, you should probably unsubscribe.

Juan

Just wait for the Tori/Piers/Ilyana non-romantic love triangle storyline to really take off…

Scyfe

I dunno, I rather like the relationship. Based on the Piers and Tori's characters and some of the comments other characters have made them falling into a sort of Aromantic/Asexual relationship seems appropriate.

Halycon404

Piers is not a special needs kid. Get that out of your head right now. The current richest and most successful man in the world has aspergers. Many successful people who lead full lives have aspergers. They would all be insulted to say they are less. Does it come with complications? Yes. It also comes with strengths which make them more capable of dealing with some subsets of life's problems.

Amit Gupta

I don't think we need to worry about that with Aila, they write in quite a bit of advance. As such, plot points don't really change immediately due to comments here. https://writingconfused.wixsite.com/ailaaurie/post/don-t-post-immediately-let-your-chapter-breathe

Amit Gupta

@Michael Holloway Piers is 19. Also, most readers DO NOT have a problem with it. It's a very vocal minority giving that false impression. You can backtrack and see for yourself in the comments.

Amit Gupta

@TheCatsMeow Uhh..so Special needs kids don't deserve relationships with normal people? What is your point here exactly?

Amit Gupta

Piers is Sebastian's Pupil. He's younger than Kasen (Underclassmen of Kasen), how would he be 27. AFAIK he is 19 (Also remember He's studying in Universite) Also, this is the perspective of llyana, NOT piers. He found someone he's comfortable with, so spends time with them. How is that an issue for people?

Halycon404

I think you missed author comments where they said Tori does have sex, just not relationships. Everyone wants this Pierson thing so much they'll overlook everything.

Overprepared GM

Piers was 18 or 19 when they met. Sebastian is the one who is 27. I agree about wanting the plot line to progress, though. Ilyana’s PoV this chapter seems like a step in that direction, so hopefully we’ll get passed it soon.

Noon Martini

Pedophilia involves sex and sexual interest and that’s not what’s happening here. ALSO, 4 years in age difference does not a pedo make. Do seniors in high school who date freshmen get classified as pedos? As the long game is factored in, there’s not much difference between a 20 and a 24 year old. Tori is “safe” for Piers because she goes above and beyond to not trigger him. She works with all the reactions he can’t control within himself and is his match in things political. She doesn’t want him in a sexy way and so she’s safe. I’m getting the whole moral of this story to be that life partners don’t have to be romantic partners, which is a great, no, THE BEST moral for an aro in a dating sim.

Halycon404

She was 14 when they met!! He was 27. It doesn't matter what age Tori actually is. He does not know that. He has feelings that are very much romantic, since he's shown and expressed jealousy, for a child. If you can tell me with a straight face a 27 year old man being jealous of the relationships he even thinks may be romantic in nature of a 14 year old child is not absolutely wrong... then you my friend have problems. Tori is actually in her 40s, but noone but Tori knows this. She is to all apparent a child. This stupid loophole does not excuse behavior unless they know about it. It's the idiotic 1000 year old loli vampire trope people find disgusting in reverse. Anything to make it juuuust legal. While everyone knows it's anything but fine.

Tjark

Huh. I mean it's not like in real life people would stop suddenly because she said no. Especially if they continue to do so many things close together. Also how in the world is Piers pedophile? He wants Tori to marry him so they'll be together for a long time. Because she's one of 2 people in the world who get him (like Axton). It has nothing to do with sex. And besides pedophile means sexual interest in kids before puberty. Tori should be well into that, not to speak of the fact she acts (because she is) like a 40 years old most of the time as described in this chapter by Ilyana. If I remember correctly, Tori also always told them they're not a couple and just friends. But Ilyana herself said partners now because the way I see it, she's understood by now that Tori isn't interested in Piers romantically. But she still thinks she'd make a good empress. It's true that this plot line doesn't quite move like others. But it does move forwards imo, and it's very realistic. And that's one of the main selling points of the story as far as I can see. The overwhelmingly well made characters and realistic stuff that happens.

Different Nick

Piers is emotionally dependent on Tori, but we don't know if he is sexually attracted to her. Personally, i don't think he is after sexual abuse he suffered when he was a kid. As for that "she told him she is not interested"- it might be the actual reason why he sticks to her like that. He doesn't feel threatened by her.

Tjark

Well, seeing as nothing more than an apology came out of it and maybe a bit of training I think it was very opportune. :D

Lou Gar

Basic advice: #1 readers, if you don't enjoy it, don't read it. #2 writers, stay true to the character & their story. Changing to fit vocal protesters is how we get 'Snakes on a Plane' stuff.

Halycon404

I don't care. I really don't. Not anymore. 40 something chapters ago I would have given Piers some slack, I'm long past that. She has point blank told him no. It has changed nothing. My subscription to this comes for re-up in another two weeks. I'll give it that. One more month of patronage. At 2-4 chapters a week that's plenty of time to bring this to a close. If it's not then that's the story the author wants to tell, and that's fine. Tell the story you want. But I'm done with it.

BeepBoop

Plus Piers is closer to a special needs kid, well, at least that is how I think of him.

BeepBoop

People probably just happy that the female lead isn't roofied, then treated the drugging as true love due to the roofie not made of them 'evil chemicals' but MAGIC.

Halycon404

I am getting very tired of the Tori/Piers thing. We've been told, repeatedly, by Tori, it wont' happen. Yet for over half the story every character other than Tori won't leave it alone. I am getting sick of it, and I honestly do not know how Tori hasn't lost it yet. I do not want to read this forced storyline for a romantic subplot that was stated to be doomed before it began anymore. This needs to end. One way or another. Round and round it goes, same thing for 50 something chapters. Restated the same way by an increasingly large cast. Other plots move forward, but every single time this one looks like it'll end it comes back. And besides, I know this is a fantasy but.. YUCK! How does everyone here who lusts after the pairing not understand that Piers is a pedophile. Piers is 100%, straight up, a pedophile for treating Tori as he does with the knowledge he has.

Brian P.

Rather than work on his temperament Ewan needs to work on his environmental perception. That was not as opportune a moment to sucker punch Fabian as he thought it was.

Markus

Ah, the mistake, it wasn't a mistake at all. That makes much more sense, the whole situation seemed strange to me from the beginning.

RageBone

Hmm, i thought it was lady Bob?

Brian P.

She’s the older lady who buys all her husband’s clothes. Her husband being Prince Emil, Piers and Gideons great uncle.

Alpenmann

Who was princess Vivian again? I can't remember her.

Silver Wolf

I thought the chapters were just being set to release once a time is reached. Seems to be too consistent to be something they manually do.

BeepBoop

Aurie, you know that you are free to re-schedule the release times such that they are more reasonable hours for you? If you doubt it, just make a pool with options like: no change, 2 hours sooner, 6 hours later etc.

BeepBoop

Why do you think they were even there in the first place? Even thought they were banned from the reviews? And the apology has nothing to do with them leaving. They realised that if there were to be an official overview of the events, Fabian would come out worse for it.

BeepBoop

“I still think you two would make good partners. Almost as well as us!” Poor Ilyana, having to bury her true feelings for the good of the Empire.

Empty Shelf

...huh. They really DID just apologize and that was the end of it. And the weird thing is, it seems like Alessa wasn't actually in the wrong here. That's an interesting change of pace.

Max Lopo

Yeaaaaaah... Alessa backing out at the mention of an investigation, when she was all in before? CMON Tori. Hellooooooo? She basically told you her actions are aimed and intentional. Incidents happen. Especially at night.

BeepBoop

"The bell rang again, signaling that they had left." That is it? No questions what were they even doing there after the have been banned for repeatedly harassing Tori?

S. Nutter

I hope everything turns out alright with Sonia. And I am not at all surprised that Alessa back tracked so much when an investigation was brought up, and this might nudge the oblivious Gideon towards seeing Alessa's less than nice motives here.

PlasmaticPi

That last line is every extroverted DM ever.


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