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Chapter 74: Go, Or I'll Stab You

🕑 Added 2022-02-19 08:01:01 +0000 UTC

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ShadeByTheSea

Honestly don't care if Tori never gets together with anyone. I just don't want the romance drama if there's no romance. I like romance in general but I dislike romance full of drama. So a story without romance but still with all the drama is kinda like my worst combo.

Matt

Yo, author. I love this story. I love Tori. This is incredibly well written, and I love it. Thank you so much for writing this, and please keep writing it for the foreseeable future. As for my take on the Tori/Piers situation and devoting screen time to it... I think it's good. I think it adds to the story, honestly. Conflict is an important element to the story, and given who Tori is, I think this is an appropriate conflict to have. Saying that this is "romance bait" is silly, because Tori and the author have been clear that it is not a romance. It's like getting mad at Tide because their laundry pods look delicious. Maybe you should question why you want to eat it, not blame them for making it look delicious

Arkeus

I mean, she explained it. And explained it. And explained it. Axton just refuses to believe her or Piers, and refuses to accept that their feelings are valid.

ShaRose

Well, THIS was a fun chapter. Regarding the blow up, it's been said a few times, but I don't see any issues with how Tori reacted: during and after. Particularly where it was clearly something she'd had issues with before: betting she'd been friends with autistic people and had relationships pasted over with the exact arguments being used without them really knowing the details, likely derailing them completely. Not everyone is as smart as Piers on the matter. We, the readers, don't even see it all: unless it really adds something, it isn't there. I think this is the first time she's mentioned that she calls Piers every night: certainly that they discuss personal plans for the future. She's probably had specific talks on aromanticism with Piers so he wouldn't misunderstand and set clear boundaries. Until now, I was with the crowd thinking that Tori and Piers were talking past each other, but I do think it's actually healthy now, and while the ship is (finally) sunk for me, I'm still going to enjoy things. If only for drama. On that point... Why are people acting as if giving Axton the cold shoulder was rough? It's not like it's been weeks: and it's not like it's for children only. It's basically a trope IRL to do it just like Tori did, and it's a solid way to end it with "Are you going to listen to what I'm saying now?" At the end. Also, the beginning was great. I had my evil smile on.

Lonoran

Nice chapter, the beginning was very cathartic.

Hell yeah, I want to have my cake and eat it, too. It's literally my cake. I should be able to eat it. To answer your "why waste words": I do what I want. The fact of the matter is that no matter what I write, I will not be able to please everyone and, honestly, I don't care to. That is way too much trouble and I don't have time. I'm very happy if others enjoy this story - I love making people's day a little brighter, even if it's only with 5k words. But there is never a guarantee of an audience when you write, so if I'm going to, at the very least, I can enjoy my own story and write it the way I want. And the readers have shown time and time again that they are very astute. They've picked up on things and predicted outcomes while I was several chapters ahead, writing them. I firmly believe they are capable of making their own decisions on whether or not to continue reading, and I will support them either way.

Perf

You sound pretty stupid to me.

This'll likely go into the review I'm posting on RR, but I feel like mentioning it here because the author's trying way too hard to have her cake and eat it too. I enjoy the villainess-isekai genre as a sort of guilty pleasure, even when I know most of them tend to all end the same way. It's fine that the author wants to remove the romance from the story, but if that's the case, actually remove it from the story and keep it out. Make the story about thwarting Alessa and the stooges, which is where the story is actually enjoyable. Why waste words, chapters, and scenes on this "aw-shucks-it's-only-platonic-moments" with Piers? I'm not aromantic, nor do I care to know about it, and honestly, if that means I'm not "woke enough", I don't particularly care about that either. It feels more and more like the author wants to keep baiting the people wanting a ship, because she's afraid of losing that part of her audience. That, to me, is just disingenuous. I hope the author understands that the readers are not that stupid.

Noon Martini

Everyone is aghast that Tori blew up but. Tori: I’m changing my behavior because people get the wrong idea, and it hurts my feelings and is making me angry Axton, who she thought was listening when she has explained friendship adnaseum: I’m gonna go ahead and get the wrong idea, contrary to everything you’ve said Tori: angry Totally legitimate and I have the emotional responses of a 40 year old because I am one. Nothing sets me off faster than willful deafness.

mightguyishot

I can see where you coming from but this is an otome isekai story 😌 You need to leave your logic at the door 🚪👈🏿 These type of stories are fueled by emotions, drama, and social relationships. And by your logic Toris mom would have been arrested, gideon would have wanted to assisinate his older brother for political power, which neither has happened. Yeah, there is some politics in this story but it's often loosely based and takes a back drop on the emotional side of these relationships. Also Tori was never trained or motivated to be making all these politically calculated moves. She has friends, not “allies” and although axton is a cool guy your confused on who needs who in this relationship. Not only a ton but the entire royal family benefits more from tori being around because let's be honest, tori makes everyones job easier on helping piers’ political career. It's Tori who, out of the goodness of her heart helps piers. Not for political social climbing but because their friends. (And she doesn't owe anyone any explanations. Helll! She could be fuck buddies with piers and it wouldnt be anyone's business even if they never got married in the future.) At the end of the day, Tori has too much clout from her family and generally who she is to be tiptoeing around her relationships. And if axton wants puts his nose where it doesn't belong then he should be prepared to take the heat.

Lou Gar

I believe the cold shoulder at that level was excessive, and an emotional response, not a logical one. Also, the very big and very important thing to consider is that Piers is the apparent heir to the Empire. The Empire! That is not minor or private thing. Historically, that sort of thing has been massively political, and the speculation of nations, not just the family and friends. These sort of things involve political machinations at every level, and up to and including assassinations and massacres. If Tori has been willfully blind to that, I expect that she is in for a lot more painful surprises - especially if she 'cold shoulders' an important player and currently an ally, like Axton.

Christopher Thomas

I mean, i get Tori’s reaction, but it was a bit over the top with the cold shoulder. People have a defined expectation of what goes on between two people of the opposite sex that are extremely close, go to social events together, and talk nightly on the phone. I think it would have been better for Tori to explain her situation, her feelings, and her specific orientation to romance to this person that is very close to her and views her in a sisterly way. I don’t mean this to justify any imposition of one’s views on another’s life, i just mean it is not always clear to outside observers especially when factoring in unconscious bias. Then again, tori isn’t a teenager, she is actually an adult with years of experience and apparent prior experience with people blaming her for her relationships with others. So some of those prior years could have led to some trauma, lost friendships, etc. Overall i don’t really blame either side, it is just a misunderstanding that is getting blown out of proportion (probably for the sake of the plot lol).

mightguyishot

Also, author was VERY upfront about characters aromantic situation from the BEGINNING! Like chapter 1. And they STAYED consistent ANYTIME future relationships where brought up (e.g. When she had a conversations with her dad about her plans in the future). The only thing Tori ever wanted was to be safe, get through the game, travel and be happy. To expect her to change all her plans for a cute guy is not only cliche but just doesn't stay consistent with Toris character design. It's one thing if Her GOAL was to fall in love and wanted to settle down (there's nothing wrong with that) but its another for her to choose that lifestyle because plot demanded it. Because remember, EVERYONE is supportive of her goals to travel and have a platonic relationship with pairs. PIERS is supportive of her choices. (only ppl that want this marriage this is the king and queen and their opinion don't really Matter tbh) and tori isn't in anyway lacking financial, emotionally, physically, to put aside her dreams to settle down with piers. And she wouldn't even be happy. It's too much work and not enough incentive. And the only “argument” that I could see people arguing for is “Tori would be a great queen, she could do a lot of good politically, she would be good at it, it would make piers happy) to that I say BS! Tori isn't the only smart, motivated, person in the world. Yes she's awesome but to assume she's the only capable person in the world is the height of arrogance. Also Tori can still do a lot of good being who she is, without being a queen. And piers is too kind to force Tori to settle for a life she doesn't want because it's “convenient” for him. And maybe he depends on her for support, but Tori is working towards having him EXPAND his world with more people that can do just as much good that she's doing now. And so there in a TRANSITION stage in their relationship where YES he is dependant on her, but it's only TEMPORARY until he can get on his feet and find a more long term solution to his social life. And forcing piers to latch on to tori and force a marriage because “hes never done this” will only isolate him and have his dependent on tori in the future. WHICH IS NOT A QUALITY WE WANT IN A FUTURE KING! Essentially, them getting married will cause them more damage than good. Also, don't forget, Tori is romantic, and cannot return piers feeling in a romantic way. So he will be stuck in a relationship that's not fulfilling so it wouldn't do him justice either. He's autistic NOT aromantic. And Tori will eventually feel resentful for sacrificing her happiness for the good of others if she accepts this relationship. So, unless the author rearranges the ENTIRE story to have some crazy outside force that makes it mandatory for them to get together or the “world will end as a we know it” kinda stakes. I don't see this happening. Also that's just poor writing.

mightguyishot

I think we might be not use to fl being expressive with their emotions and telling like it is. We all get emotionally heated and to expect that of her regardless of age is unrealistic. This doesn't seem spur of the moment also. Tori has been getting hounded about her relationship with piers when it's quite honestly nobodies business for too long. And to have her friends she trusted get on the bandwagon hurts deep BECAUSE she expected more from them. I think Tori is very much justified in how she feels and if she didn't physically hurt anyone or throw around her influence (like most ML do when they don't get their way) and she apologizes when she gets her feeling in order it's really not that big of deal. Friendships aren't always rosy. All in all people are seeing this relationship not go as planned or their don't understand it so they get uncomfortable. And then as a result feel the need to do something. So they hound Tori, or get her to behave in a way that makes them feel comfortable, (also pairs is a prince, so really can't tell his what do to) so by default, all the emotional labour of this situation falls on Tori to do the heavy lifting in all this (along side all the other BS that's going on in her life). And was Tori prepared to do damage control for their relationship? Perhaps. (pairs isn't capable of it due to his autism, and tori was happy to support) but now all bets are off because tori is doing damage control from the people she expected support from (family n friends). So its not surprising she lashed out. She has all this pent up frustration and no where to direct to. And axton got in the line of fire when he approached her. And if he's a good friend, he should understand tori is under a lot of stress and give her the benefit of the doubt, until she gets her feeling in order. Which she will. Just let the author do their thing and see how it goes!

noëlle

To everyone disappointed about her reaction: I think that it’s kind of more along the lines of what was mentioned before and how she slips into different personas for different situations. TBH being a middle aged woman with the hormones of a teenager and being reminded of a clearly traumatic event from her personal life, all while trying to get away from everything and take a break; she is tired, her guard is down, and she is trying to remove herself from situations that require her social energy. I, as a 30yo woman, would also probably lose it if someone came up to me when I was trying to get some space. It’s a weird combination of being treated as a child and an aggressive view on a relationship they don’t have all the information on. Is she reading too much into the reasons behind Axton coming to this conclusion? Probably, but clear communication is insanely difficult to practice. Add on top of all of this the shit with Alessa which is 90% third party interpretation of events and I think you’ve got something of a powder keg. At the same I don’t think Axton was in the wrong to bring it up, but rather he was not as rational as he thought he was being and did NOT choose the time or place correctly. She gave so many warning signs that she wanted to be left alone and tried to end the conversation multiple times before she resorted to the threat. He should have absolutely backed off at multiple points. Plus, I think clear communication around relationships in “adults” is the ideal but /not/ the rule. There are tons of communication techniques (clean communication, nonviolent communication, pqa) that are taught because it is so difficult to do naturally. In personal experience while those techniques can become second nature in work environments, when it comes to personal life sometimes it goes out the window.

Deepal

It didn’t feel like something Tori would do. 15 year old, even a 20 year old version, sure.

The Lost Pages

Also, Tori's reaction feels very wrong to me for some reason. If she has a past life experience that makes this bad then explain it in more detail. Cause her reaction to an understandably concerned friend is off-putting.

The Lost Pages

Gotta say, I came for the mild romance / villainous tropes. But the story is twisting in a way that I am no longer enjoying as much. I will stick around for a bit longer. But if it keeps going down this violent (stabbing him Tori? Really?!) aromantic path I will bow out. To be clear I feel like the very premise that attracted me to the story is the thing that is being rejected. Keep in mind, that doesn't make this a bad story. Just not one that is right for me.

Gil

Wow, I really don't like how Tori behaved in her conversation with Axton. Yeah Axton was being kinda of an ass, but her response is uncharacteristically childish. Adult relationships live and die by communication, and clamming up like that is something I see a teenager doing, petty and spiteful. It actively undermines what makes friendships work, and I expect better from Tori, given that shes mentally a middle-aged woman.

Wesley Stone

She's more likely queerplatonic then anything else.

Nobody

"YoU cAnT hAvE pLaToNiC fRiEnDs!" -Our ship-obsessed society.

Tjark

"Dead?" - lol Damn it. I'm disappointed Axton didn't notice that it was Tori who cracked the obsidian. I want this mystery solved because I want her to have cool powers xD

Brian P.

She’s previously cracked crystals in the headmaster office and reception area when angry. She also triggered all those scrap crystals while angry during the review scuffle. So she’s clearly able to do something impressive even angry as hell.

Oxylus

She's 15, and Sebastian was doing it not for Piers' sake but out of thinking he is protecting her. As we see at the end, maybe Axton doesn't completely know or understand the relationship Tori and Piers have.

Brian P.

Just aromatic, as far as I’m aware.

Cyclic Addict Recovering

Hold on. Was Tori so angry at Axton that she unconsciously drained all the energy from the charm she gave him and it broke?

Matt

Wow. That was very off putting of Tori. Two people close to Piers warned her, separately and she had the audacity to be toxic. Also, she should be aware that these are grown men cautioning someone who they think is 14. Damn Tori, not cool.

mightguyishot

Axton really cannot comprehend a platonic relationship, eh! XD Tori really needs to explain asexual & aromatic concepts to her friends n family XD

S. Nutter

I think Tori has more power than she thinks she does, both in the political influence and in the mystical sense.

PlasmaticPi

That's the exact opposite of what's happening. The problem is Axton's understanding of Piers and Tori, both as individuals and in regards to their relationship, is wrong. We've already seen multiple points in recent chapters where Axton discovered he had misunderstood Piers, and now we are seeing how he misunderstands Tori because of her asexuality and how it affects her relationship with Piers. Does Piers potentially still have some attraction to Tori beyond being just friends? Perhaps, but as we have just seen he understands that she can't reciprocate his feelings and just wants to be friends, and he is fine with that. I mean Piers literally just took a huge step towards letting her go off on her own without him once she graduates by buying her a ship. So if anything the one who needs to get his head out of his ass is Axton so he can realize they are just friends and they are fine with that.

Ktoffel Genshin

I kinda love Piers reaction and the relationship between Tori & Piers. They care about each other in the way they want, not necessarily how others think how they should do it. And no matter if they marry or not - love takes many shapes and whatever their relationship may evolve into, as long as it works for them, I'm eagerly anticipating it. The communication and mutual trust is already there.

Brad Jackson

Poor Axton. He's just trying to help. Tori is too stuck in this mentality that she perfectly understands Piers and Piers will perfectly understand her. Axton has been beside Piers for most of his life and has his own understanding of Piers. Axton clearly sees that even if Piers says Tori is just his friend, that isn't what he *feels*. Piers is just parroting Tori because he can tell that doing anything else would drive Tori away from him. Hope something happens soon that knocks Tori's head out of her own ass and let's her at least consider Axton's and Sebastion's points.

nugitoBambino

Yeah, especially when it's relatable. Like the cold treatment and whatnot is over the top as hell, but if a friend of mine disparaged my character unintentionally I could totally see myself getting this level of pissed for a while.

abowden

Alessa BTFO!!! Lets see those tears... I wonder how long it will take those two to get over the misunderstanding to make up... Will Tori craft him another set? I hope she does, one even better than the first.

Julkur

Can we get another Discord link please? 🥺

focus2x

Thanks for the chapter! Sometimes, it's easy to be put off by characters that are "too perfect". Flawed characters are more interesting, so it's nice to see a protagonist act like a complete asshole due to their flaws.


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