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Chapter 75: This is Unbefitting For a Prince

🕑 Added 2022-02-21 08:01:02 +0000 UTC

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Mistress Araenidae

In my mid-twenties, I ended up taking part in a government funded job training thing where you lived in dorms. The majority of ages was late teens to very twenties so we, as a whole, were treated like kids. It was very easy to slip into a childish mindset.

Andrew R.

Your friends influence you more than you realize. She's surrounded by 15y.o. kids, and treated like a 15y.o. It would be incredibly difficult not to fall into a 15y.o. mindset, especially when she's dealing with the hormone fluctuations at that age. We haven't seen her in any blatant pms fueled emotional state either. Maybe that's part of the reason for the strong reaction?

Will C

I think Tori is overestimating her past life age. Not sure if it's Hormones and chemistry or bleed through from original Tori but she's certainly not as mature as she thinks she is. The experience and knowledge certainly remains the maturity is slipping though.

Christie

Although I don't even think the Axton thing is so inconsistent. Maybe a few people are also forgetting that hormones are in Play? And until 21 years old, the brain isn't finished and that's why we have in puberty the feeling that things are forever and the worst possible. Sensibility and the feeling that there is never going to end however you feel, this is not something you can control. You can recognize, analyze, but the feeling is still there. More intensive than what a 28 or 40 year old feels.

Christie

Well, everyone is different. I will just say the author should do what it wants to do. Readers are here and can think whatever... But such a feedback during the writing process is something authors with published books don't get. For the good and for worse, this is a new kind of relationship between reader and author. I know it's hard, but do put stone walls around you, Auri, and go on. I know things hurt even though they don't mean to. But every book has inconsistencys. Like, reborn as a baby that doesn't need time to eat. Boy, I am 22 hours a day feeding, getting air out, don't moving cause he wakes up otherwise... I don't go complaining to the author's that that is unrealistic.

Nobody

It would make your analogy more accurate to say you were friends with a VERY RICH bi guy, multiple people are spreading rumors that you're sleeping together but you only like him for his money. Then your friend's Brother believes the rumors over both your claims and confronts you. It's about the brother not having enough trust in his family or friends to believe there isn't a relationship because rumors. All that aside the silent treatment isn't that rigorous of a punishment.

abowden

You can't please everyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you might find that when you change something to pelase a vocal minority, you piss of other people as well. Personally I only think people are about this because of the serial nature of the story, if you read through the whole situation, beginning to (upcoming) end, back to back to back, without the many days in between, you probably wouldn't care nearly as much.

Matt

All the best Aila. However, I would recommend rewriting this plotline before it hits the RoyalRoad readers. Multiple people, who are paying to read this far ahead so you know they care about the story, have taken the time to give you negative feedback on how Tori is treating Axton. Other people may think it is justified, but I am willing to bet that those people would have stayed for the story regardless. If you are attached to this interaction and don't want to change it, that is 100% your choice. Just be aware that you risk losing readers and Patreon supporters.

@C B - the reply was not to whether something like this "can" happen to women over forty. It is a reply to specifically trying to justify that Tori was overreacting based on the fact that she is 40 and it is EXPECTED that she should not act that way at 40. Matt compared that as a 28-year-old man, he would not have acted like Tori, a 40-year-old woman, in a somewhat similar scenario because of his age. If this was just "I don't think Tori would act that way based my reading of her", that's different. There are plenty of those and it's expected. Everyone reads characters and scenes differently; certain things are going to hit a different way depending on the reader's experiences. But that's not what the reply was addressing.

The Lost Pages

@Aila the issue I have isn't whether something like this "can" happen with women over 40. It is whether Tori would do such a thing. Based on her character so far the answer I would give is no. The story does not justify this vindictive reaction. And it is very off-putting. To the point that I am in the same boat as Matt. This is your story obviously. For me though she just sunk to Alessya's level without any reason that let's me buy the reaction.

WhyNot42

Thank you! 😄

Halycon404

Don't particularly see it as an issue. One of the things that comes with age is a willingness to cut people out. It's a flaw, but a common one. By 40 people have had a few lives. They've moved two to five times, gained, lost, gained, and lost a few friend groups. They'll on average pick up a friend or two from each stage that'll stay around, but on the whole not many. It's easy to drop people they've only known for a few months or a year. They've only known them a short while in the grand scheme of things. Time just rolls on. Growing up is learning to deal with things you don't want to. Growing old is learning what and how to leave things behind. This isn't that type of story, sure, so it seems out of place. But it is a story.

abowden

MC's aren't allowed to have hangups or berserk buttons that make them unreasonably angry, more particularly, one's that aren't shared by the reader in question. It's perfectly understandable why she'd be so angry, she's been dealing with this bullshit her entire previous life, maybe lost friends over it, and it's being weaponized against her by the likes of Alessa. When she's Harried, on edge, trying to de-stress, and just wants to be alone, Axton invades her space and spouts something she never expected to hear from a friend. She feels betrayed, she's not just going to forgive immediately.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 🎉🎉🎉

One of the things I've learned writing this story is that there are a lot of people who aren't 40-year-old women with A LOT of opinions on what 40-year-women should be like. And it has been both eye-opening and sad because one of the biggest things is that 40-year-old women can't have strong emotional reactions and must control their feelings or act a certain way - usually in a way that caters to others over themselves. It doesn't matter what their situation is. It doesn't matter their life experiences or if they're reacting in a way that they know works for them. If a 40-year-old woman acts different from what she is "supposed to be like" at all times, she's a terrible and invalid. I discussed this scene with women around that age: the character has lived to 40 and had this sort of experience multiple times (as noted in previous chapter) and then a person she trusts tells her he thinks she'll hurt someone they care about despite all her efforts. One friend said it best: "at one point, you just say fuck it". Take care, Matt. Thanks for joining us thus far.

It was never sent; the head's up was given via Piers of a general time and then it was a surprise in order to surprise Gideon and avoid unwanted guests.

Christopher Thomas

I like to imagine the extra spice of gag and head cover when he was being “kidnapped” was a special request of Tori’s mother

Matt

Alright, I've thought about it, and I am sorry to say that I am dropping this story because of the Axton plot line. Before now, the fun of the story was that Tori was a grown woman handling petty overblown drama, like a reasonable well adjusted person would. However, her actions against Axton are cruel and vindictive to the point if being abusive, especially considering Tori's true age is 40+. If a friend of mine behaved like that, I would cut ties, especially since her reaction is so out of proportion. She is publishing Axton for a perceived slight and nothing he actually did. I am a somewhat feminine man and people have always thought I was guy it doesn't bother me because I am a reasonable adult. If I was best buds with a bi guy and one of our mutual friends warned me that I might unintentionally hurt my bi friend, even though I was very clear about being straight, would I react like Tori is reacting to Axton? No, because I am 28 and not a child.

The Lost Pages

I am all for flawed characters. Like you said though, there wasn't a hint of this kind of flaw till now. If anything I would have argued the opposite was her flaw. This is exactly the sort of thing that Alessya and her cohort have done to her. And the story doesn't justify her reaction.

focus2x

I didn't have a problem with it, because I happen to like flawed characters. However, the more I read, the less it seems like the story considers this a true character flaw. I'm enjoying the story, and I don't think that plot points should be moved forward unless the story calls for it. I do hope, however, that this thread will have some kind of payoff - maybe if the author spent some time foreshadowing this payoff or indicating that it is a character flaw, it would be appreciated. Instead, the scene with Axton and Pier almost seems to try to convince us that Tori's behavior is justified, just leaves a bad taste. If the payoff is simply "and Axton learnt his lesson not to question the main character", I will be sorely disappointed.

noëlle

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Empty Shelf

The thing with Axton is already wearing thin, honestly. I'm still not really clear on what she's even angry about, much less why she seems willing to dismantle their friendship over it. It's such a baffling turn that it really does overshadow most of the rest of the storyline.

WhyNot42

I’m turning 40 today (yay! Happy birthday to me!) and love seeing how Tori reacts to everything… It’s interesting to see her weaponize the confidence and boundaries that you grow with age, and fascinating to see how she flips the game. Factoring in that she’s juggling a lot in a strange world, I think her refusal to tolerate willing ignorance makes sense. Just my two cents…

Bbyh

I think axton needs to give Tori some space. I mean regardless of the circumstances, he's deeply hurt someone he cares about and they have made their preference for space known. It's time to make your apologies, let them know you care about them, and give them some distance.

The Lost Pages

Tori's treatment of Axton is a huge turn off for me. And I found that I just read through the rest of the chapter because I felt I should rather than I wanted to. It just feels like Tori has become the very person she hates by doing the same thing that she has had done to her. Without listening she spurns Axton's apologies. All of which came from Axton's brotherly love and concern for Piers. Ugh...

Brian P.

She was a 40 year old woman before the transmigration but we weren’t given any promises around her being well adjusted. Besides teenage hormones being a hell of a drug, the phrase Axton used seems to have been particularly triggering due to some untold past experiences. But also remember she’s got a fair bit of Victoria de Gueverra in her. Her brother ignored the love of his life for a decade because she went to a different university than he planned for her to go to. And her mother ignored her former best friend until her friend was on her death bed because she married the wrong man, and that only with an intervention.

Notcreepycreeper

Loving the plot as it seems to be picking up more on the Alyssa front. I'm also wondering what the game will do next! On the Acton front tho, it feels like Tori is acting like Alyssa would. One friend expressed concern that she would hurt another friend. Despite apologies and explanation that they in no way thought it'd be INTENTIONAL she's still completely ignoring them. I'd believe this to be the reaction of any real 14 yo. But isn't she supposed to be a well adjusted 30 yo?

abowden

😂

Max Lopo

I like the empress. This reaction is quite tame, all considered. One of her closest friends lost her life due to a scheming bi**h, and she still blames herself for inaction. I am honestly surprised she didn't have Miss Hart secretly drowned in a swamp already.

S. Nutter

Bringing the parental hammer down on Gideon. Maybe the Navel Academy isn't a bad idea.

Brian P.

Was the letter Tori was supposed to get from the Empress regarding Gideon’s visit never sent? Or did it just have two possible dates on it?

mightguyishot

I need her to make him sweat first😈

Summercat

I'm wondering when Tori will let go of her grudge against Axton. Sigh

Brad Jackson

Based on the conversation, it sounds like the Empress's idea. As Toni said, she's an idiot. Seems fitting she'd go so overboard in planning. haha

Miles Pettey

Hmmm maybe separating Gideon from Alessa like this will be the start of breaking her spell.

Julkur

Gideon! Please! Do something stupid unbefitting for a Prince!!!

Kiera

Honestly though, what the hell Piers? This might be too much, even if your brother is a massive idiot :’D

Aaron V.

Good Chapter


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