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Chapter 76: I Call it the Army of the Undead

🕑 Added 2022-02-23 08:00:05 +0000 UTC

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Thorlol

Only that it wasnt an observation. He pretty much told her that she should stop spending time with Piers and to not treat him so well. He also told her that she doesnt understand him. Thats patronizing and belittleing. I dont see her being mad at him as bullshit or it being irrational. Pretending it never happend is pretty much the only way to go if you cant forgive someone, or you cut ties completly. Either way, the friendship will never be as close as before.

Markus

Only Axton did not insult her. She reacted irrationally to an observation by a concerned friend. Which no one has a problem with. We complain about the other characters not calling out her bullshit. That would have been an excellent way to grow her and Axton's character. Instead of what happened? Axton apologizes for her being irrational and everyone pretends it never happened?

Lady Serin

Thank you for the chapter Aila

Christopher Thomas

“I push Gideon into the wall” - Piers “I’m not even playing!” - Gideon

Gil

@Meredith My problem with it isn't her mental age, I am aware people can be imature at any age. My problem is that she appears to have a dramatic character shift in the space of like, 2 paragraphs, and then keeps it up, showing it's not just a one-off knee-jerk reaction.

Thorlol

Damn, the moment Tori reacts like a normal human being because one of her friends overstepped his boundaries and insulted her, people go crazy. Axton said something that reminded her of a great deal of pain in her past and she reacted, so what? Even though he doesnt know about her past doest change the fact that what he implied was disrespectful and hurtful. She has the right to be angry.

Cyclic Addict Recovering

eh, my parents are twice my age and sometimes people get old w/o learning how to untoxify themselves. heck take a look at any /r/justno* type subreddits. for mother-in-laws, for parents, ... the list goes on

Max Lopo

If she keeps reminding people that she is 15 when talking about her potential relationship with Piers, she REALLY shouldn't be angry when Piers's best friend is worried that a 15 years old girl doesn't have the social chops and the experience to safely navigate a relationship with a borderline autistic, ptsd textbook case, social anxiety suffering human train wreck. On any serious level. RIGHTFULLY SO. Now, from a reader perspective, we definitely have more information at hand, to the point that an emotional outburst in the moment could be justified. Especially considering potential past experiences. But after that? It looks ALIEN. The girl we got to know is smart and introspective. Patient to the point of self-harm, in a direct competition with Buddah. The girl that against reason keeps her pout and refuses to see the facts is in striding contrast with anything we have seen to this point. It is weird. As in "always says she is happy and she is found dead in her apartment with her 10 cats eating her corpse and a suspicious collection of nooses in all her drawers" weird. Or "Gideon" weird. Same level of insanity.

Markus

This was not the time or place to tell him that she'd lost people she cared deeply about because they didn't feel or believe she loved them enough. That she would hurt them despite all her efforts showing otherwise. She knew what he was going to say at 'don't treat him so well' and her blood ran cold. Wait, wait, wait. She has already lost several friendships in the past because of her overly friendly behaviour and is about to do it again. And the first thing she does when someone points it out to her is throw a tantrum? Can someone please tell her to her face not to behave like a little brat?

The Lost Pages

Oddly enough I would have felt better with this whole Axton thing if it was excused away as the ghost of Victoria or something...

The Lost Pages

You are not alone in feeling that.

The Lost Pages

Yup. In a way I'm thankful for the lessons learned here as I'm writing my own stories. I'm fascinated by the number of people who reacted to the Axton bit in a bad way. Also Aili's explanations I read were insightful though ultimately didn't resolve my issue. Different mindset I suppose. Odd as this probably sounds, I'm a man who loves a good slow burn romance. Somewhere along the way I feel like it swapped to slow burn and no romance. Add the Axton bit on top of it and I'm just left wanting. In the end though, that's ok. This story isn't being written for me. And Aili has her (his?) own intentions for where this story will go. I respect that.

mightguyishot

Just say your upset Tori is a person with agency. It's almost as if she she have thoughts n feelings of her own 🤔 ANYWAYSSSSSS don't let the door hit you on your way out👋

focus2x

Haha I think you've seen me the comments before @C B. It was interesting going from "flawed characters are interesting" to " If the payoff is simply 'and Axton learnt his lesson not to question the main character', I will be sorely disappointed" to "goddamn it".

Gil

Honestly the whole Tori Axton thing feels played up for drama. It happened with basically no buildup, took 3 chapters to resolve, seemed to not have a huge impact on the overall narrative, and had both characters break character. I don't think of Tori as imature and toxic but that's how she's coming off. If she realizes its a sore point, it would be more in her character to make that clear, and only not forgive if they keep pushing hard. Edit: Just to add a little more: After reading some other comments, I can believe that Tori could act this way, but I haven't been sold on it by the author. I am also not sold that Axton would just crumple like paper. These two things are very possible, but it just hasn't been supported by the text a whole lot leading up to it, or even around it.

The Lost Pages

Thanks Aila Aurie for the enjoyment you've shared with me. You are an incredibly talented author. And I hope you do well when they inevitably get published.

The Lost Pages

I mentioned this in a reply to focus2x but feel it deserves its own place. My issue here with the whole "character flaw" is that it is retroactively explained. There is no buildup to her explosion with Axton. Nothing in her character up till now says she will hold grudges out of spite just to punish someone for a perceived slight. And the way she doesn't actually forgive him just feels abusive to me. Anyhow this is just my 2 cents which is worth less than nothing I know. I will be taking a break as I no longer enjoy the story. Part of it is this. Another part is the hard-core shift to Tori being aromantic. This no longer has the same feeling as it did when I first started reading.

Eric

I think it's good to add this character flaw to Tori, being difficult to forgive a close friend who accidently wronged you, even after they repented. Tori so far has pretty much been can-do-no-wrong morally, so this humanizes her a little bit.

Nikola

How is clearing stating a boundary, how much it hurt and asking to not pass said boundary bad? Tori even mentioned how what Axton said was a trigger of hers. Not to mention that an apology stops being a apology that moment you add a but, it's only and/or justification to it. It has the effect of either passing the blame to the person being apologized to or simply refusing responsibility for their actions entirely.

abowden

god no

focus2x

It was a bit generic to keep calling it "the delta" - but I'm also not going to pretend that I think "Viclya" is a good name.

Arthur Van der Poorten

Can you explain how this is raising red flags for you and which ones? Because I can understand the feeling of not caring whether the other person meant to hurt you or not, words, even if not meant to hurt have effects.

Eric

I think it would be funny if Gideon is able to get his head on straight and, eventually, marry Tori. 😆

focus2x

Thanks for the chapter! I'm not sure if this the place to leave feedback, so I won't go into details here, but this chapter was honestly a bit tough - mostly because it demonstrates some of the issues I had with this story so clearly. I don't want to be too harsh, especially for a novel made available for free, so I will simply ask a question or 2. Wouldn't it be more interesting and satisfying for the reader if the main character overcame or resolved some character flaw? Wouldn't the story be more exciting (and coherent!) if Tori achieved that naming scheme *after* having solved some conflict? Wouldn't some of the characters seem more real if they seemed more give AND take? I'd leave more specific feedback but I suspect it can't be appreciated in this format. Anyways, I'll leave it there, with my thanks for this chapter.

abowden

Or rather, he will mention it to Alessa, who will mention it to cowman... Who will then steal it. Again. A surprise she hasn't started selling it already tbh, it would make sense to get ahead of cowman.

Brian P.

Yeah, I was surprised he didn’t have much internal reaction to Tori’s speil around her first days at school, given he was a large part of why they were so hard.

Empty Shelf

"I don't want your apology or your reasons defending yourself for thinking and saying what you did. I want you to know you hurt me, whether you meant to or not, and never do it again." Dangit, this is what I was worried about. This resolution with Axton is incredibly off-putting. I won't call Tori's behavior 'toxic' only because this is supposedly an isolated incident driven by some past trauma, but her attitude is raising red flags (along with flares and warning claxons).

Amit Gupta

Oh no! Gideon is going to steal Dungeons and Dragons from Tori! Noooooooo!!!!!

Brian P.

I’m shocked you’re not commenting on the town being named after what’s effectively a shipping name for Ilyana and Tori.

Ktoffel Genshin

Thanks for the chapter! Nice to see Gideon get some character development...

Emma1997

Thankyou the chapter! Will say that Gideon’s POV doesn’t have much of his opinions in it - would be interesting to get more of his viewpoint rather than just acknowledging she’s doing well at the village building

Sierra Saldierna

Ah a name for her village!

Summercat

Wow, that quest. Well. Wow... Tweaking the nose of the game much, Tori?


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