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Chapter 92: You...Dropped Your Pinecones

🕑 Added 2022-03-27 05:00:02 +0000 UTC

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Diego Rossi

Well, if you translate "shipping" as "immediately having sex", your comment aren't a problem, but if people mean "having a crush and possibly going somewhere in a few years" it is pretty different. Plus, Illyana is interested in Kasey, not the reverse. How can it be grooming when the adult isn't pursuing the teenager?

Diego Rossi

It is legal age for an engagement, mostly.

Pixelblade

To be honest I thought it was general Von Schwertz at first. He's been described as the most handsome man so far iirc.

abowden

wait, is this a reference to dropping/spilling your spaghetti?

Vladerag

To be clear, by what logic are we going by here? Obviously, pedophilia is bad. That is a given. However, this is a story based off of medieval times and a pairing between a 23 year old and 15 year old wouldn't be surprising. Really, if you think about it, engagements arranged by parents and political marriage are more or less forms of sex slavery and prostitution. In other words we, the readers, have to go forward under the presumption that *any* relationship will be fucked up in some way. And they probably don't bother thinking about that much. I highly doubt most people who claim to ship them are really considering their ages and the implications of their words.

abowden

The terminally online will always find something to screech about, rather than going outside and touching grass as they should. Eventually you have to tune them out, so long as they don't launch a moral crusade against you that's usually easy enough.

nugitoBambino

I mean yeah, obviously we need the development to be handled in a non-creepy way. But if the story say's 16 is the legal adult age for marriage in this fantasy medieval setting, then I'm not gonna let my personal sensibilities get in the way of this genuinely fantastic ship.

uavgas

Also, eight years older may seem like alot when you are 15, but when Ilyana is 20 and Kasen is 28, it won't be a problem.

I've been in fandom since the 90's. It is indisputable that people will ship who they want to ship. I've seen ships where the characters have never even met in canon. As long as long as there is, or CAN BE, some chemistry between characters, they will be shipped because there is potential. This is not a measure of morals or personal beliefs; this is curiosity in interesting possibilities. This is acceptable in fiction. Just relax and take the story as it goes. Ilyana has a crush.

Oxylus

Wow.

nugitoBambino

Only for like half a year! SS Shippiest ship! Consider this sailor aboard! wooo so frickin cute!

nugitoBambino

Isn't the marriage age 16? So it wouldn't be that weird for this society if they got together sooner. Although I also can't see Kasey reciprocating anytime soon. Still, this crush is absolutely amazing! Could not be more pleased with this development.

Oxylus

Have you read anything I said? Where did I say *anything* about what's in the chapter? I'm specifically talking about all the people above who said things about shipping the characters or tried to justify it. If anything, you should be directing this at people who actually mention them being in a relationship.

Noon Martini

>Stop trying to justify the gross. Stop projecting. A 15 year old got a crush and you’re banging an antipederasty drum. They smiled at one another, as non combatants do in polite society. Stop making it weird.

Oxylus

There is so much wrong with this. A 15 yr old has not developed enough to make these decisions..The other person has, and should know better. Justifying this is a serious issue and I think you need to really look into what grooming really is and why you consider this okay. "Shipping is the desire by followers of a fandom for two or more people, either real-life people or fictional characters to be in a romantic and/or sexual relationship."

Tjark

Saying we are shipping someone doesn't necessarily mean we want them to have sex right away either. And while I can see the grooming comment as valid, I can't really see that happening in any meaningful way either. The way I see it they will take things slowly either way. Ilyana has school first and probably universite after. And Kasen has his duties as a marquis second son. Grooming to me would mean spending a lot of time and manipulating/forcing Ilyana to accept him as her future husband. They're likely to just have contact every few months on special occasions. And that's totally okay because having a friendship as a foundation for a possible future relationship can be a very good thing imo. And for the time being Ilyana's behavior is cute and adorable whether something will come of it or not.

Oxylus

No one is saying anything about the crush, that part is fine and perfectly normal. What is gross is the *commenters* saying to ship it. Stop trying to justify the gross.

Noon Martini

What is wrong with all these commenters that jump to effing grooming and pedophilia when a 15 year old gets a crush? Are y’all okay? Like, the response is a bit.. well, sick, really. 15 year olds get crushes. Does the crush mean they are gonna immediately bang? No, she’s 15. Stop being gross, guys. Effing chill, ffs.

Oxylus

I feel like pointing out that other comments about possible shipping are a bit wack doesn't mean that anyone has criticized the scene in the story. Our comments are about other commenters, not the story. Personally, I actually liked it a lot. It was really well done and Kasen's reaction was perfect.

Lady Serin

I think we all need to calm down. If shows like Sex Education and Big mouth can be on TV and lauded for how good they are. We can suspend disbelief and root for our second best girl Illyana to crush on Tori's brother. There has been zero hints of sexual acts depicted by minors in this story. So let's just let Aila write and us consume

Amit Gupta

I'd have to disagree. Oxylus' comment is about the present, not some far-off future. While I have no problem with a single-sided crush, a relationship if it starts in 5 years will seem suspiciously like grooming to me. Yes, couples do exist with that much of an age difference, but if their relationship starts before one of the party is mature, it feels icky to me. My other point is, unless there is scope for the relationship in the novel, which seems unlikely outside of an epilogue ( if it's to be added without the ick), adding this feels like needless padding to me. I'd reserve judgement on this for now to see how it's meant to evolve or how it contributes to the story.

Brian P.

Kasen is 23 currently, eight years older than Tori.

Brian P.

Ilyana couldn’t make herself love Tori more so she went and developed a crush on male!Tori.

Torbjørn Nilsen

Eh, in five years the age difference won't be to much even to our society. Have seen couples with 12 years age difference both ways. As long as they are happy, and no one is being taken advantage of, who cares. As long as there is no fifty chapter of warbling back and forth because of the age difference.

Oxylus

Yeah guys. Ilyana is like 15. Yeesh. She's got a crush, but he's definitely not going to.

Morgan

How old is Kasen? 25?

Tjark

rip Tori x Ilyana. Although fairly sure we all knew that was never going to happen no matter how I wanted it. But this one is cool too. Ilyana reaction was too cute.

Brian P.

The ship is even more illegal than the SS Tiers, alas. At least for the moment.

mightguyishot

I Also wouldn't know how to act either babe 😮‍💨

S. Nutter

I ship it so hard! The is the shippiest ship to have ever shipped. I literally giggled out loud.

White Neko Knight

Shipped!


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