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Chapter 57: Some People Seem to Want and Need a Romantic Relationship

🕑 Added 2022-01-16 08:03:59 +0000 UTC

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Calico C

Quite honestly, it being revealed that she is aro doesn’t make me ship them any less. This is more in the sense that I typically like reading about aro partnership way more than “romantic” ones because the characters seem to look at each other more as people and support each other’s goals way more. Also, jealousy doesn’t become a major plot point (my personal annoyance, jealousy is an extreme negative and should be toned down, not looked at as a sign of love.) I used to think I was aro because my first “boyfriend” was a good friend at first, but I had a thing with physical touch very similar to Piers. He respected that, and we never even held hands, but our relationship became way more distant and awkward as soon as we slapped “date” on hang outs. I met my current boyfriend, and he is one of the four people I’ve ever met that I don’t tense up when they touch me, and I find it comforting to do hugs rather than something I have to grit my teeth through. I honestly look at relationships as friendship but with sex (either now or in the future) with a bunch more communication piled on. And if Tori wasn’t as much of a wanderlust as she is, I could definitely see her ending up with Piers since they work together so well. But I also see her feeling extremely stifled as an empress due to not being able to go where she wants or act the way she wants with who she wants.

Andrew R.

I'm looking forward to the drama when Tori starts trying to wean Piers off depending on her all the time. "She didn't come with him to X. Do you think they're fighting?"

MrrC

Actually I think that the actual emotional distance is less. Piers has a unique situation and she is the only one who he trusts and interacts with physically. Also she does find him physically attractive (based on her F Me) statement when they first met.

That sounds incredibly fun and with a strong bond. I always like chill, but effective royals.

This is something I've been hinting at throughout the story, from the very beginning, but I can understand why people would see it as romantic. That is pretty much what we are constantly fed and it has become so deeply engrained and expected, that any sign of physical affection or deep emotional support, primarily between opposite sexes, is often automatically interpreted as a romantic. There have also been so many stories where a protagonist doesn't fall in love until a particular someone enters their life and suddenly, they're in love. I'm sure many readers thought this would be one of them. But it's not. And I knew that there would be resistance, if not a drop of readers, once Tori being aromantic was confirmed. I don't mind and if the story no longer interests a person, then I think they should stop reading; I do that all the time. Still, I appreciate that they had taken time to give the story a chance, even if they don't agree with where it went or want to keep reading. I will still continue to write Piers' and Tori's relationship as planned.

John M

If you think that the last 30 chapters haven't been Piers and Tori getting closer and closer romantically then obviously we weren't reading the same story. Yeah, makes perfect sense to have these developments for literal months and then drop "oops sorry readers, Tori basically doesn't feel romance at all ever lol".

Bbyh

@Christie There are some significant differences. I think it's okay for us to go ahead and support an author while waiting to find out if the story will develop in a way that we find either sufficiently interesting and/or fulfilling in some way. Even if that development is not likely, it's okay, there isn't the same implied commitment. Also, while pressuring an author is bad, if you're going to drop you might as well say why. Though maybe not in the comment section and definitely not in a dm.

thomas

I wasn't sure where you were going with the piers relationship but this works. I do enjoy stories that solve the royal-relationship problem in interesting ways. My favorite was from 'the gods are bastards' where the prince, after a few years raising hell and breaking hearts with his best friend the lesbian (duchess?), they get sat down by the queen and told "your going to inherit soon and need to be married" then the queen suggested they marry each other and split the harem wing.

Arkeus

Part of the problem is that romantic tropes often have a character denying attraction until they are badgered into falling in love (or it being a lie all along), so a lot of readers have learned to not trust "I don't like him/her" sadly.

Arkeus

Glad that she is aro, especially as you managed to really make her feel like an adult, and Piers is....not. A relation between the two very much would feel like preying on a less emotionally stable 18/45 relationship.

Halycon404

I'm a guy, and I have female friends I do the things Piers does with Tori with absolutely no plan of a relationship. Why does everyone want everything to be a romance. Romance ends stories. The moment the 'will they won't they' is answered the story has to find something else to fill the pages. I've read a lot of books, romance included, thousands. And there is no way anyone will convience me any romance series has stayed good past the first book or three. They may go on forever, but they quickly lose their relevance and their audience. A die hard core will stay around, enough to keep the things being published, but the appeal to most readers is gone. Sales keep dwindling after the relationship is sealed.

Christie

@John M, this is like when in a relationship one part doesn't want to have kids... One tells so, one continues to hold the same opinion for years, then marry the guy who clearly got "tolded so", and then the guy is disappointed that the other part didn't change opinions, as it is clearly expected on society. Then there comes the divorce = aka you dropping TT

Christie

Maybe it's developing, who knows... Why pressure for an answer ?

Christie

Well... Never knew the therm aro, completely new for me. But still kinda rare feature in our society. I will be disappointed if there is no romance at any point with Tori, but dear author, just do you. On another note, maybe this is how her reverse Harem starts ;) In a real world you can rarely expect a few hetero man waiting for your word to fall over heels for tou IF the girl has someone she loves dearly. They will be around, yes, but will have their own priorities and maybe a relationship also.

Seth Richter

I mean, that's true, and there's no romance tag on royalroad, but for me I'm mostly just confused. Ever since piers became more than a minor character, the plot seems to be completely romantic. There hasn't even been much conflict with the love interests since the grand opening of the store, which was many chapters ago. It's hard to manage expectations when the story definitely feels completely like a romance novel, despite saying it isn't (actions speak louder than words, similar to how tori treats piers, imo).

Robert Burchette

While you have a right to your own opinions, I think its fair to point out that from the very first chapter the MC was pretty clear about not wanting romance. There have been a hundred times it was pointed out. In the first chapter she said she was happy to be single. A few chapters ago she pointed out that she hated people matchmaking with her. Implying you wasted your time reading this novel when it was clear and repeated a thousand times this isn't a romance story but a slice of life story is on you. Im happy to follow the story whatever path it takes, whether tori eventually does fall into romance or otherwise. but Im under no delusion that its a sure thing.

lenkite

Just to let you know that I am glad about MC being Aro. Just because you have occasionally held someone else's hand doesn't make you a romantic. You can hug and hold hands as an Aro as long as matters are conveyed up-front - which Tori indeed did. Though I will be curious on story direction and her planned career. Our MC is an administrator/businesswoman not a sorceress or scientific inventor or academic. If she won't marry, she is unlikely to hold a ruling position or be in a ruling partnership. The only long-term route is to be a businesswoman/innovator. Which I suppose she can legitimately do once she is free from Lycee work. If none of their 3 children marry, it will be a bit strange for a ruling noble family like the Gueveras. Sebastian will need to choose and train his designated heir someday.

Blacktide

I admit, I'm feeling the same way. Congrats to those who wanted, and hoped for this. I myself feel very disappointed and let down.

John M

Didn't Victoria get sent into a literal romance game.... but now we find out never wants romance? And we find out at chapter 57? I thought that it was super clear that Piers and Tori were getting closer/developing as a couple; holding hands, 'squeezes', Piers constantly bugging Tori, and Tori definitely treats Piers different than other guys. Not sure what the point of this development was. I heavily enjoyed the previous chapters, but this is quite a drastic change, and I do feel led on. Thank you for the hours I sunk into your novel, but if I knew this was going to happen I wish I would have invested my time into a different story.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the first time many readers encounter what aromantic is. It is a relatively new term and there are many people who wouldn't know they fall into it unless it was explained, simply because it's new and pretty rare. To make it more complicated, aromantic is not a single point, but a range. Aro and ace are often lumped together, but they are not the same thing and being one does not automatically mean you are the other. You can be ace and still want a romantic relationship or feel romantic attraction. In the story's case, Tori doesn't feel the need for a romantic relationship for emotional fulfillment or feels romantic attraction, but she feels sexual attraction. As for being in a romance game, while that is the primary focus of the game itself, she's kind of off doing something else, so she's not paying attention to the 'romantic' part as she is to the 'survive and save family' part. And there is no reason she would have a problem with other people around her experiencing love. She was 40 in her original world; she's been around a lot of people who experienced romantic love and has had time to get comfortable with who she is in relation to the world around her. She can still appreciate its existence for others even if she doesn't experience it herself.

Mike

I honestly had to google ace/aro because I hadn’t heard of it. So apologies if I misinterpret something. I think that Tori being Ace/Aro just lowers the intensity of what I’m reading. Romantic relationships are tough to describe, but emotionally they feel “heavier” and going through that with a character is intense. I’m disappointed that a character I was enjoying is not going to be able to experience a romantic relationship. And even though she said she was young, busy, and uninterested I hadn’t closed off the possibility. If she actually has no romantic/love interest in a transmigrated world based off a romantic/love game. Then at some point all the romantic talk just has to get annoying for her?

Ooo! I was wondering if you were going the ace spectrum route, but I was trying not to get my heart set on it.

Broccoli

Yeah the ships got torpedo’d :(

BeepBoop

Antonia:"Tori, it is time for us to talk about sex" Tori:"All right Mama, what would you like to know?"

Jake Cantrell

Finally confirmed that our Tori is aro, I'm very pleased and thank you for doing it well. There isn't much representation for openly Ace characters (stories that just skip all mention of sex and romance don't count). Characters that are Aro/Ace in my experience usually only show up when authors have done their homework and so are usually done fairly well. But characters who are just aro are often portrayed only as sleazy sex maniacs and it's so wrong.

nugitoBambino

Seems like there's some confusion on the difference between an Ace and an Aro. I *think* Tori mentioned sleeping with people in her past life, so in this case, with the info this chapter, she'd be considered an Aro (not particularly interested in a romantic relationship) but not an Ace (an individual not particularly interested in a sexual relationship). My understanding is there's some statistical correlation but they don't need to overlap. And cheers to the author - that's a fantastic twist!

Jackson Andrews

IDK you can be Ace and still want relationships. In fact, so far the only issue I've had with this story is that every relationship seems to have been explored primarily in the sexual context. That's totally normal for teenagers so it's not unrealistic but for Torri to be unwilling to even consider the idea seems... odd to me. Perhaps that's just my personal bias showing and my desire to see some form of romance in this story. Then again really looking at the story as a whole, it would be weird for Torri to really consider dating anyone. She is much older and was single in her previous life as well.

uavgas

Thanks for the chapters, Aila! Edit note: "...and his nephew-come-adopted-son, Constantine." should be changed to: "...and his nephew-cum-adopted-son, Constantine." Here is the link to the grammar rule for this Latin word. https://grammarist.com/usage/cum/

Zyikic

On one hand, mad props for Ace representation, really don't see that much and it's great. On the other hand I personally was definitely shipping Tori and Peirs, so I will be sad that it appears that not only that but all ships are sunk.

Joseph

Asexual people also develop romantic relationships as far as I'm aware. I would guess she's aromantic

Amit Gupta

Oh this is a nice revelation! I love it! Though I'd be prepared for a bit of pushback on Royalroad. Also, first! Just found out you introduced a new tier and had to subscribe! Was worth it. Also, Tori is an asexual, right? I'm not misinterpreting anything here?


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