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[COLUMN] Event Cinema Sees a Renaissance | by Darren Mooney

🕑 Added 2023-12-01 15:51:01 +0000 UTC

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Darren Mooney

Hey, if you enjoyed it and didn't make anybody else's movie-going experience unpleasant, I'm all for it!

Sharkke Koffee

I feel I've been caught, I only go to cinema for that reason, it's an event not for the movie, started when "The Room" was rented out for a rewatch and we grabbed our spoons and joined the crowd, to make jest of it. Barbenheimer much the same, but they are interesting movies for their subject, so even as joke to dress in pink to the Oppenheimer movie and sorta "noir" for the Barbie movie, it was fun and different experience.

Darren Mooney

Cheers!

Will Cooling

Hahahahahaha. I wouldn't go that far. I think economists are doing an important job, but yeah its a difficult one, with a high dosage of "art" to go along with the "science"

Will Cooling

Yeah. And I think it speaks to a bigger issue in society, that Freakonomics actually first picked up on, that we've became so highly aspirational that "cheap and cheerful" can't survive as a brand proposition because it because associated with poor people, and that makes people want to avoid it lest they be seen as poor.

Darren Mooney

Yep. The one case over the past few years where a seemingly self-destructive decision has actually worked out best for everybody involved.

Jonny C

Thank you as always.

Wills

Which, if true, would be the best worst decision ever made.

Darren Mooney

It's almost as if economics is a weird nonsensical pseudo-science that is a mess of contradictions!

Darren Mooney

Fair, but I do also think there's an argument that cinema has historically been a more populist and accessible medium - "the nickelodeon", the fact that popcorn became the favoured treat because it was cheap. The medium had a certain cultural cachet because you could just rock up to a cinema and say, "That looks good." I think that's changing. And I accept that it has to change. But I'm still sad to see it.

Darren Mooney

Yep. Fun fact: if you believe various sources, including "Hollywood Reporter" veteran Matt Beloni, the only reason "Barbenheimer" happened was because Warner Bros., in a fit of pique, wanted to "crush" Nolan for his perceived insult.

Darren Mooney

Yep, "Top Gun: Maverick" is a great example - like "Way of Water", a movie where home media really can't replicate the theatrical experience. (Indeed, I had a section in the first draft of this piece pointing out that most manufacturers have simply stopped making 3D televisions, making it impossible to watch "The Way of Water" at home the way you did at the theatre.)

Darren Mooney

@Will Cooling: Yep. Whenever people seem shocked by the high budget of, say, Norah Efron's Netflix movie or the price Amazon paid for "AIR", it's because they are effectively buying out profit participation on the front end. (Zack Snyder reported earned over $10,000,000 on "Rebel Moon", for exactly that reason. That amount goes in the budget.)

Darren Mooney

@erakfishfishfish: Yep, but they're streaming movies and so completely independent of the theatrical model - any money they make in theatres is "found money", as the piece puts it. I think this model is nonsense, to be clear. But the issue is the model, not the individual movies. Still, given that the expectation for them is to "simply exist in theatres for the purposes of qualifying for those big shiny awards we want", any money they make while in there is essentially "free." And that's *a lot* of "free" money.

Darren Mooney

Yep. I'm lucky enough that Dublin has a couple of lovely boutique cinemas. But it's going to be a rough couple of years.

Darren Mooney

Yep. I think it's fairly undeniable and self-evident. I liken it to cutting three legs off a four-legged stool. What you have left can't stand.

Darren Mooney

@William Alexander: Oh, I would argue "Saw Patrol" was an early proof of concept of studios misunderstanding the appeal. Next year, I think we have "Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes", "Furiosa" and "The Garfield Movie" on the same day, we'll see if they try to do something similar with those. ("Garfuriosa? Furriousa?")

Wills

Your last point is spot on as Barbieheimer happened organically. It was a coincidence that these two disperate movies were released at the same time that would not have happened had cinimas not taken a chance. I suspect if the suits try to manufacture Barbieheimer (or the gaming version, Doom CRossing), it won't work as well.

Captainflake99

It's been noticeable over the last few years that cinema screens have been getting emptied and emptied. The last film I can remember going to which was nearly 5 years ago. I still prefer going to watch a film in a cinema first as you can't quite replicate the experience of the big screen and the surround sound. I'll never watch top gun maverick again and watch the screen shake when the jets take off like I did in the cinema. It's not a perfect experience by far, but both the cinemas and the studios need to work on improving the quality of what is getting released and the cinemas making it worth while to attend in person. And as always great article Darren

erakfishfishfish

Good call. I hadn’t considered that aspect of streamers.

Will Cooling

Worth remembering that streaming-first movies have inflated budgets because they can't offer stars points on the backend

Will Cooling

Incidentally, I do think video games are an interesting example of the danger of talking about inflation too glibly. How do you factor the advances in technology and expenditure in producing a modern video games vs the advances in hardware production. The former suggests todays video games have more intrinsic value than their primative predecessors, the latter suggests today's video game should be cheaper than in the past

Will Cooling

Great article as always Darren. I would however push back on the presentation of inflation statistics. Using the 70s as baseline really skews them because its before married women working full-time was fully normalised, with the expectation still being that a household could survive on the man's salary. That is obviously not the case now, which means two-adult households now have two incomes rather than the one that was the norm previously. Likewise whilst cinema ticket prices have risen (slightly) more than general inflation, this doesn't take into account that the price of key staples has massively reduced, with the proportion of household income spent on food or clothes being much less than used to be the case. This has freed up money for people to spend on entertainment, hence the much greater price inflation for concert or sporting tickets. I think there's a strong argument, as you hint towards you article, that movies made a mistake in keeping their prices too low for too long which undermined their cache as date night or birthday treats.

erakfishfishfish

Something that should be noted of Killers of the Flower Moon and Napoleon is that they cost $200 million each. They both still have a ways to go towards profitability (particularly Killers of the Flower Moon which seemed to have a much bigger marketing push).

W. Fry

Yep, the movies are going the way of TicketMaster, and the CEO of AMC is giddy. Personally, I have struggled going to an AMC theater for years. There used to be a Sundance theater in my neck of the woods. Had many pivotal life moments there--the biggest being first date with my partner of over 12 years, Melancholia. AMC procured the theater, and it went belly up last year. I can't wait for independent theaters to have their "vinyl" moment. Seems like we are going to have to trudge our way through seating section pricing, consolidation and implosion before that happens though. I blame James Cameron.

hitman_2

There is this trend of just pushing stuff out that fills up the space but isnt worthy of engagement. It just lowers the "average" bar for everyone, who will just follow the established trend and their creations will eventually be around that same average level.

hitman_2

Series of "weird, unnatural" events around the globe, captured in 80 min movie parts, that create a sort of an event puzzle for the final act. There we get the characters interact with eachother, based on their own development in their part of the whole.

aaaaa

Interesting read. I never went to the cinemas much but had a similar reaction when sports became easier to see at home. I would only go to games that were “events” (i.e a stadium I hadn’t been to).

William Alexander

Ooh I can't wait to see how the studios will fundamentally misunderstand and attempt to commodify this trend. Anyone have any guesses? "People loved Oppenheimer, so what about a series of 3 hour movies, each focusing on a real life physicist, that builds to a climax where they all meet in a shared universe?" (hint: it's our universe).

GayBearDaddy2

I respect that, but for any film I'm not translating in real-time (Japanese or Italian films without subtitles), that's my literal hell. I also tend to watch things at 1.5x or 2x speed because they seem so slow and drawn out to me. It's why video games are my preferred method of entertainment, but not games like the walking simulator or visual novel genres.

Darren Mooney

Interesting. I actually really like that the cinema is like a Faraday Cage, in that it forces me to shut off (literally and figuratively) anything but the movie I am watching.

GayBearDaddy2

I'm in the camp of people who cam't really sit around for a whole movie in one try unless I'm eating for about 60% of it. There are exceptions to the rule for movies that are wholly engrossing and entertaining like "Everything Everywhere All At Once," but I've just found I'd rather watch a movie in parts during lunch or while walking on the treadmill. For that reason, I really don't care for movie theaters, especially with how expensive it is to go nowadays. While I can appreciate other people's admiration of film, I just can't keep myself engaged enough without some form of physical engagement (which includes laughing my ass off at films I find way funnier than they probably are).

Darren Mooney

And, to be fair, like "Guardians, Vol. 3", "John Wick 4" has the luxury of being sold as "the last of these, we swear." (Which Lionsgate are pushing back on, but is clearly the intent of Stahleski/Reeves.)

Kai

Looking back over the last year or two yeah almost all the big excitement seems have been for films not attached to existing film series. The buzz around Marvel, Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible, Avatar and everything else has seemed really muted, even the big tentpole Disney & Pixar releases seem to be fading in people's enthusiasm. The only film I can think of off the top of my head that was both part of an existing series, seemed to have a lot of excitement around it, and turned out very good, was John Wick 4. Otherwise it's been the reign of the original property. Been a good year for cinema trips for me


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