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[COLUMN] The Compelling Ambiguities of Dune: Part Two | by Darren Mooney

🕑 Added 2024-03-16 14:00:06 +0000 UTC

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Darren Mooney

Yep. Is the idea that Paul is the messiah because he's the product of generations of Bene Gesserit breeding any less insane than the belief that he's the leader because he's the son of Duke Leto Atreides.

William Alexander

Ooh that's a great point. Especially since that secular take is built on the feudal mythology of worshipping and dedicating one's life to the royal line.

Darren Mooney

Gurney is fascinating, in large part because he clearly has as much faith in Paul as Stilgar does - look at his reaction shots - but it's secular rather than religious.

William Alexander

Great article! I also loved how the film makes all of Paul's mentor figures morally ambiguous as well. There is no wise figure that gives Paul a morally correct path for him to ignore, learn from, and then come back to. They still love Paul and have expertise but aren't going to show him the "right way". Jessica wants to protect him but also is following the Bene Gesserit path even before she becomes a multi spirited, semi-alien whatever she is by the end of the film. Gurney seems even more lost in the Fremen world and committed to the feudal system that's exploiting the Fremen. And Stilgar is a religious zealot who wants Paul to lead a massive war. The fact that Villeneuve can illustrate this so well while making these characters still seem likeable and consistent is very impressive.

Darren Mooney

And "Dune: Messiah" will be bigGEST.

Captainflake99

Another great article Darren! Part two for me was worth the extra wait we had. You could have topped off the with the tag line. Dune Part Two. It's even bigger

Bryan Cybershaman(X) Logie

Ah! A little searching brought up "agony box" being mentioned in Heretics of Dune. 🙂

Bryan Cybershaman(X) Logie

I think the box is a pain stimulation device used by the Bene Gesserit. I don't recall if they actually named it in the book, though. It was a secret how it worked.

Darren Mooney

Thank you for this. I honestly think that ambiguity is the strongest part. I like that there is no Paul, there's just the idea of Paul, as "American Pyscho" might argue.

Darren Mooney

Ah! What's the box called?

Manav Sridharan

Love this article, really speaks to the most interesting part of the movie, at least in my opinion (and personally, the part that sort of doesn't work for me). We never truly see Paul's motivations at every point of time. It is completely possible to read his actions in the movie as Paul understanding that he needs to appease both the fundamentalist Fremen and the free thinking ones, and he puts himself in harm's way to become "one of them". He repeatedly says he wants to "be Fremen", whereas Chani keeps reiterating how he would always be an outsider, at least in some respects. But she slowly starts coming around to him. That's why Chani's betrayal at the end speaks so true to the viewer, conveyed by Zendaya's excellent acting just through her expressions. Has Paul changed due to drinking the water of life and seeing a way through? Or is this the way he wanted to see? Revenge is clearly at the heart of Paul's character motivation, and maybe he saw red because that's what he wanted to see. Maybe he tried to reject the prophecy on purpose so that he could earn the Fremen's respect first, and then just slip into the role of Lisan al Gaib with ease, when both factions of Fremen are desperate for a saviour.

Bryan Cybershaman(X) Logie

Fascinating read as always, D! A gentle note: the gom jabbar is actually the poisoned needle and not the box Paul puts his hand into. 😉


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