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[COLUMN] The Problem With Prequels | by Darren Mooney

🕑 Added 2024-09-13 14:13:55 +0000 UTC

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Tim Wilson

I had no clue that Tolkien coined “Prequel”. That’s a fun irony. I think that plain and simple it’s just risk aversion. People will see a film set in a world they’ve seen before but (especially in quite self contained stories) there’s nothing to go forward to. For example, one of my favourite films I’ve seen recently is “Everything Everywhere All At Once”. Definitive, unambiguous ending. Nowhere to go. However, ill-advised though it may be, there is technically a prequel you could do of the first alternate Evelyn. It is more possible. It is stupid, but possible. Personally nothing turns me off faster than a generic prequel. It can be done well, Saw X was a wonderful, if slightly stealth, prequel but even then it had the issue of certain character motivations being different than they were in Saw 1 because of the decades of character development since then, and general changing attitudes and writers. The Netflix “Witcher” animated prequel was good, because it dealt with an event frequently referenced and so it was effective world building but also utterly superfluous; you don’t need to see it to enjoy the rest. It could easily have been a flashback episode of the show, so it fit, rather than trying to shoe-horn more events and plot into whatever already existed. But we might as well be 10 minutes ago for all the sense and notice the big studios will take of artistic merits of prequels…

Tim Wilson

Well that’s a stark and unpleasant reminder of the state of media. Thanks Darren :D

Darren Mooney

I think, as the piece notes, there's a reluctance in Hollywood to embrace a "downer" ending. As weird as this is to type, I think it would be harder to make "The Empire Strikes Back" after you'd made "Return of the Jedi."

Darren Mooney

Oh, I'm an old fogey too! And I want new things.

Darren Mooney

Now, that hasn't been confirmed, but Ian McKellen let that slip while promoting "The Critic." So maybe he was misinformed.

Darren Mooney

Oh, "First Class" is my favourite of the "X-Men" movies, allowing for "Logan." A masterpiece.

Darren Mooney

"Start in the middle" (which is distinct from "in media res") is just an extension of the basic storytelling philosophy which is "start your story at the latest possible moment." It's good advice even in terms of scene construction, narratively, because it understands the audience doesn't need any of the stuff that came before to enjoy the story.

Darren Mooney

To be fair, the piece, I think, offers a fairly clear account of the rise of franchises, where they were always around, but they weren't as dominant in even, say, the 1990s as they were in the 2000s. While by no means new words, "Prequel" and "Reboot" both surge in use after 2000. If you look at, say, the top ten films at the domestic box office in 1990, you have: Ghost, Pretty Woman, Home Alone, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, The Hunt for Red October, Total Recall, Die Hard 2, Driving Miss Daisy, Dick Tracy, Back to the Future Part III. That's two sequels, sure, but in franchises that are still young at that point - within the past half-decade. Two comic book/strips adaptations. But still a wide variety of genres and adaptations: a melodrama, a rom-com, a family comedy, a thriller, a science-fiction adventure, some awards fare and even an honest-to-goodness western comedy. In contrast, this year's top ten so far is: Inside Out 2, Deadpool 3, Despicable Me 4, Dune: Part Two, Twisters, Godzilla x Kong, Kung Fu Panda 4, Bad Boys: Ride or Die, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, It Ends With Us. That's nine sequels out of ten films, many of which belong to franchises that are about a decade old or even older.

Darren Mooney

Cheers! Very fair. Corrected!

Bryan Cybershaman(X) Logie

"It can often seem like fans don’t want continuations of the stories that they loved when they were twelve, they simply want the experience of being twelve again." Chef's kiss. 👩‍🍳💋😉 I'm 55yo, btw. 😉 I do NOT want the same stories shown over and over again. I know there is this supposed argument about how "there are no new stories to tell." However, I think that is an overly simplistic and simple-minded reductive argument. Are there general THEMES that appear from time to time? Why, sure! But there are always subtle variations that are the "meat" on the "bones" of stories. Variations which can turn an ardvark into a snapping velociraptor, so to speak. For example, sure! There have been people stabbing each other in the back since there were "stabby things" handy to do so. And even before then! ("Trog! Come for moment! Near this cliff. Yes. It's OK. We will look on the land..." 😉) But it's the WHY and HOW of things that make things INTERESTING. WHY did Trog's buddy (presumably!) push him off of the cliff? (Note: I didn't actually SAY it happened! 😉) Was it for LOVE of an unrequited or jilted nature? Maybe Grog (the accused "pusher") actually LIKED Trog. Or maybe there was a power struggle and while they were actually known to be FRIENDS...well, then...... Do you SEE now? 😉 Don't you want to experience that early-human story??? I sure do. Come on, Hollywood! Anyway... End rant. 😉😎🤘☮️❤️

Bryan Cybershaman(X) Logie

No. Oh, no. They are stretching out a few paragraphs in Lord of the Rings into TWO PARTS??? Ugh. I don't care who's involved, I think the exhausting Hobbit trilogy should make it clear that it won't be a big hit. It just saddens me that studios won't do anything new and are just bombarding us with variations on what has already come before. How boring is that? Don't the numerous recent failures hint enough? I guess that doesn't fit the "line must go up" mindset of "bleed what we have until it's more than dry." Ugh. I feel bad for young/future generations. No wonder they would rather look at their phones than being enraptured by a story unfolding on the big (or little) screen. 😕

James

Great article. As I was reading it, I couldn't help but reflect on how good the first two X-Men prequels were, and how they were willing to take the X-Men concept to a radically different place and craft meaningful dramatic stakes. First Class is a masterclass in prequel-writing. Despite the fact that the conflict between Xavier and Magneto is firmly established in the original trilogy, the most dramatic and impactful scene in First Class is the famous "coin scene", which uses visual filmmaking to tie the villain's death to the breaking of Xavier and Magneto's united mission. And the later scene where Magneto curves the bullet into Xavier's hip that paralyses his legs got gasps from every person I watched it with. PS: Also shout-out to Magneto's theme. It's a fantastic escalating piece of music that adds so much to the tension of the film.

Ben Repton

But aren't prequels just the natural deep mining of IP that "started from the middle"? A lot of the largest IPs (Star wars, lord of the rings etc) deliberately started in the middle of the action (google start in the middle). Isn't this the main reason why they are so open to prequels?

Mike English

I think that, in their search for easy franchise expansion, the industry has done sequels badly and to death. So instead they want to grab onto something that was "mysterious" and then put it on the screen, which doubles down on the problem presented by prequels to begin with. However harrowing an event sounds, we know not only that the characters from the original material survive but we know they succeed. Like being told at the start of a heist movie that the heist will succeed. We also know that much of the surrounding cast is likely not to live, or to otherwise be rendered unimportant in the future to come. It would be far more interesting, I think, for a character to be known to have a great failure in their past and to then explore the circumstances around that. Which is where the prequels really fumble the ball. They take the story we wanted to hear--how Anakin becomes Darth Vader--and it's really just the back half of the third film in a trilogy.

Amar

"The Fast and Furious franchise followed Tokyo Drift with three movies that were subsequently revealed to be sequels." -- should be: revealed to be prequels?

Jeremiah Maxel

Were franchise wars ever not a thing? Since I've been alive, they've always been fighting each other.


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