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[COLUMN] Joker: Folie á Deux, The Matrix Resurrections and the Modern Self-Hating Sequel | by Darren Mooney

🕑 Added 2024-10-07 14:00:14 +0000 UTC

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Sofox

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message" .... I've just realised how rabidly the director embraced that quote....

Sofox

So the story is about a director getting so angry at the fans and audience of a successful movie he directed that he tears through $200 million of other people's money just to piss them off, potentially burning his career and any fan loyalty he had in the process?

Darren Mooney

Fun fact: Wilder would famously “shoot for the edit.” He wouldn’t shoot coverage, and would only film stuff he knew he needed for the film. This made it very difficult for the studio to alter his vision; there were no shots to cut away to or dub ADR over. It was literally his version or nothing.

jahr

If only directors would ask Every Frame a Painting's most recent question, "what would Billy Wilder do?"

Darren Mooney

Well, also trying to reclaim some narrative control from them. If they won't let go the wheel, we're all going over the cliff.

jahr

Cindom punishing the 'bad fan'

Darren Mooney

Oh, good luck!

Darren Mooney

There are two sides to that. The first is that I don't know that Keanu is involved in "Matrix 5", so I suspect Warners would have done "Matrix 4" without him as well. But once Wachowski decided that she was coming back, Keanu probably agreed to come back with her. The second is that I will forever admire the dignity of both Christian Bale and Joseph Gordon Levitt in turning down the dumptrucks full of money Warners most likely (and is rumoured to have) offered them to reprise their roles from the "Dark Knight" trilogy. Nolan's "Dark Knight" trilogy is the rare pop culture franchise unbesmearched by this nonsense, but it gives you a sense how rare it is. (Also, for the record, I'm a big fan of "Alien 3." I'm also very fond of "The Matrix Resurrections." The rest of the examples I'm less hot on, but I'd take "Alien: Covenant" over "Alien: Romulus" and "Folie á Deux" over "Deadpool and Wolverine" any day of the week.)

Darren Mooney

Apologies. I'll flag with Marty now. My bad.

Darren Mooney

And Sir Arthur Conan Doyle killed off Holmes.... and then brought him back. I also think about Alcott fantasizing about killing off the cast of "Little Women" in an earthquake.

Lyle Hammond

I'm getting my flu shot tomorrow. And I plan on reading this article while I wait under observation!

Tim Wilson

A depressing, although apparently not entirely new state of affairs. I’d heard that Aliens 3 was polarising and that helps explain a lot. I see why a director would rather destroy their baby with their own hands, but I wonder why actors get involved again. Keanu Reeves definitely didn’t need to do the Matrix 4 and Joaquin Phoenix didn’t need to revisit Joker. Is it solidarity with the Director? Much harder to replace your leads if you want to do your awful cash-grab sequel.

Osama Bhatti

Great article! I do find it fun to see films built on some foundation of contempt towards the movie business from an “eff the system” kind of way, though I’d hope the filmmakers had some fun with it when making them. Quick note: it seems there was a typo in the 2nd to last paragraph (“Incidentally, Wachowski was correction.”). The meaning still came through, though 👍🏽

William Alexander

Great if slightly depressing analysis! It's got to be demoralizing for people who can only work in the industry by doing this, but its also frustrating knowing that there are dozens of directors out there who'd be happy to make something more entertaining than Joker giving the middle finger to the audience. To be fair though Shakespeare did something a little similar with Henry V. "Remember Falstaff, the lovable rogue who made the preceding Henry IV parts 1 and 2 so full of life and memorable moments? He died offscreen on his way back to his home planet. Don't worry though, we'll bring him back for a completely unrelated minor play with no relation to this story or explanation."


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