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[COLUMN] Should DLC Be Eligible for Game of the Year? | by Marty Sliva

🕑 Added 2024-11-19 15:00:12 +0000 UTC

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Steven Thomas

For me, Erdtree is not a game, but an expansion, a DLC, it shouldn't be in the running. As for remakes, I think they could be in the running, but given that the story, level design, and game mechanics are already done, it would have to be a super amazing game to make it there IMO.

Dakota Durbin

Interesting column, Marty! :) In all honesty, I haven’t heard any good excuses as to why Erdtree should be ineligible. While DLC being nominated might be unprecedented, you can’t argue that it isn’t a game, and even if accessing it is obtuse, that shouldn’t affect whether it receives a nom or not. It’s funny though, with that being said I still feel a knee jerk response to boo it being nominated, but maybe because it feels like Elden Ring already received its accolades and it’s time for something new to get the spot light. Regardless, I doubt it will win, but it will be interesting to see if this starts a trend for a higher quality of DLC content for games in the future!

Jared

Did Marty call Immortals Fenyx Rising a banger and put it in the same sentence as Far Cry 3 and Smash Brothers Ultimate?

Cerulean

No, it shouldn't be eligible. There also shouldn't be any gdamned muppets muppeting around while actual awards get twenty second mentions on the show itself. The Game Awards are gonna Game Awards.

GayBearDaddy2

Ah, I didn't address that since I hadn't read the article before my comment. I also think remakes/remasters shouldn't be on GotY and should have their own category as well. Since their proliferation is more recent, I can see why they haven't gotten a category yet, but their rise to market share of modern gaming more than justifies a category of its own. In that case, FF7R (both of them), P3R, RE4R, SH2R, etc. should all be put into a different category. Ports of a game, unless it's a remaster, shouldn't be considered in the GotY or Remaster/Remake category (so FFXVI for PC or Etrian Odyssey for PC wouldn't be considered, but Tales of Symphonia Collection would, due to its expansions on the respective games).

Tim Wilson

For me it’s a semantic difference. DLC is, by definition, part of the same game and therefore is not eligible for a new award, especially if that game has already been nominated in years past; it’s a second bite of the cherry. In contrast, a remake/remaster is a dependent work from the original, no matter how similar it is; SH2 and RE4 remakes are very different to the originals, not an add on. Stick it in “Best Continuing Game” or whatever they call it these days or make a new category to be stuck on the side of the screen in between teasers and give recognition to the 6 new games that they decided to pay attention to this year I say.

Shchella

But since remakes and remasters are eligible, why not a DLC/Expansion? As long as it adds significantly new content... Saying Shadow of the Erdtree should be ineligible on principle but letting FF7 remake pt 2 in seems counterproductive. And just because the FF14 expansion didn't get nominated doesn't mean it was ineligible (or even made it to the longlist of nominees which the public doesn't see), so it seems a little biased for you to suggest SotE shouldn't have been considered just because you liked FF14 better (since art and the merit of it is subjective). P.s JiC, I'm not trying to be combative, and I'm not even necessarily disagreeing with you. So while I agree with the common solution of "just make a DLC/Expansion specific category in the game awards," it's a little unfair to say SotE should be denied any recognition in the meantime.

JR

A "lack of monoculture across the medium"? It's a slip of the... fingers on the keyboard, I know, but man, that sounds like the complaint a mustache-twirling CEO with a British accent would make at a cartoonish conspiracy meeting with his peers. (Glad you're saying the opposite, Marty!)

GayBearDaddy2

Extremely true. In Endwalker's case, it came out in December of 2021, so it very much left the public conscience by 2022's Game Awards (in which case, I'd whole-heartedly throw Elden Ring down a bottomless pit to experience Endwalker for the first time again). That said, I agree with the point that there should be a Best Expansion/DLC category, even if it'd only have 5 or 6 options every year.

Marty Sliva

I point it out in the piece, but expansions are also eligible for being nominated. I just don’t think the voting block is comprised of a lot of MMO players, so FF14 expansions would rarely have a chance, but that’s a separate issue entirely.

GayBearDaddy2

Before reading: No. DLC is in the realm of expansions, so if something like FFXIV: Endwalker wouldn't get nominated, Shadow of the Erdtree shouldn't, on principle. That said, I don't think SotE earned the nomination over new games like Unicorn Overlord or even Crypt Custodian; it didn't exceed expectations in the way Old Hunters did for Bloodborne or Ring City did for DS3. The difficulty of it being primarily HP sponges or bosses that just don't break poise (or worse, recover from a poise break before your character gets out of the swing animation), means I had significantly less fun with it than I did the base game, or even Lords of the Fallen 2023 (a souls-like that actually made me feel powerful without having to stack buffs for a minute before entering a boss arena). It was hypertuned in a way that killed the fun of playing it.

Ryan Pattison

Thanks for always bringing reasonableness, civility, and positivity. If it were up to me, I wouldn't allow DLC and remakes to meet the qualifications for the nomination and think it makes more sense for them to have their own categories, but since there isn't SotE deserves a nomination and it isn't a big deal.

Adithya Kale

The problem here is that SOTE has been so influential this year and needs somewhere to be recognised. Ideally there would be a best expansion/remaster category, but in the absence of this I think it has earned a spot on the list

Andrzej Banaś

Short answer: no. Long answer: nooooooo. But that's my two cents, let Geoffrey do as he pleases.

Brian S

Excellent article, Marty, and you called it. There should be a category for expansions and updates. Until then, I’m happy that Erdtree was nominated, even as the DLC caused more than a few gray hairs and a multitude of curses.


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