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[COLUMN] On the Thundering Literalism of Dune: Prophecy | by Darren Mooney

🕑 Added 2024-12-16 15:00:16 +0000 UTC

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Darren Mooney

Ha! I'm sure some of his stuff must be good, but he has simply never clicked for me.

Darren Mooney

Yeah, I read far too many of those books. In my defense, I was a teenager at the time. But they were a moment where I realised that I don't have to read everything and that just because a branded name is on something doesn't give that thing value. So they were formative for me in a way, I guess.

Darren Mooney

Ha! As much as I love the weirdness of "God Emperor", I cannot imagine we'll ever get to see it on screen. But, that said, if Jason Momoa wants to turn up for it, I'll be in that seat on day one!

Darren Mooney

Yep. And I think that's an issue with much of the "Lord of the Rings" spin-off stuff, that you can tell all the stuff they have left to include... is not stuff that lends itself to a cinematic narrative.

Yours truly, Johnny Dollar

Kevin J. Anderson will always hold a place in my heart for being the first artist I ever identified as a hack.

Tommy Salty

Calling Kevin J. Anderson pulp science-fiction institution is the best burn I could have ever imagined. Mr. Villeneuve was able to cut the Tom Bombadil fluff from Dune and made the story work. His son and Mr. Anderson are putting multiple Toms in multiple tomes. They explained Han Solo's striped pants before it was fashionable. These metaphors are very clumsy, but I'm a real believer in under-explaining the world. It's always the same: when a story goes into world building at the expense of plot and characters, it becomes a Wikia with dialogues.

Tim Wilson

I’ve always considered Villeneuve’s adaptations to be an incredibly pragmatic approach, and I really appreciate it. I only read Dune a few years ago but it holds up incredibly well, and the films were fairly easy to follow with my poor wife only needing to ask for more information a couple of times. It was a fun Easter Egg. Dunes 1-4 in my opinion aged very well but 5, 6 and Brians are, in my humble opinion, pretty naff. Subtext was constantly turned into text, wheels within wheels became contrivances within contrivances and there were only the odd flashes of subtlety and intrigue that made the first few great. The first few books actually explain very little, information is to be inferred by the reader as they go and sometimes it’s half a book later when a firm explanation for an object or concept introduced in the first chapter is produced. Good to see more prequel fodder in the younger Herbert’s vein where “tell, don’t show” is king. Now, does Villeneuve have the courage to include Leto II’s declaration that all soldiers are secretly a bit gay…? I would love to see how he’d try and tackle God Emperor but I have to assume the series ends with Messiah.

Jack Philipson

I think the main thing that enables the Villeneuve films to work in the way that they do is that Villeneuve clearly decided early on to have an absolute laser focus on just the aspects of the novel that could be done the most justice by cinema, and then do those things as well as possible. I think is also true of Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy, they're very straight-laced careful adaptations of these grand fantasy epics that are also completely unafraid to take a hatchet to things that probably wouldn't have translated well to screen.


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