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[COLUMN] Invincible's Very Literal Superhero Deconstruction | by Darren Mooney

🕑 Added 2025-03-17 14:00:16 +0000 UTC

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Darren Mooney

That's a good shout on "Stormwatch", as much as Ellis is obviously radioactive. "Top 10" is also great. Moore reacting to his own impact on superhero comics.

Darren Mooney

True, but it's very similar to the anti-capitalist sentiments of "The Boys" or "Fallout." They're the work of big capitalist companies. But it's still better than not having them.

Davsau

Only problem with this sort of thing is you end up with a tension between ‘this is bad and wrong and you should all be horrified’ and ‘this is a commercially successful IP that we are flogging and you should all be excited for it.’ It’s a weird needle to thread.

Jesus

One of the most interesting details the show focuses on is that people being affected by the battles between anyone with superpowers. It feels like the Man of Steel fights except it’s not shallow or empty spectacle with the horrors of people being killed is shown. This season empathizes how everyone has a story even the villains. The opening of episode 3 was one of the most touching scenes of the series focusing on two side villains. Since it shows those two characters trying to live a normal life only for them to fall back to robbing a bank due to hardship.

Jack Philipson

I think there's something of the texture of Stormwatch in Invincible too, and Wildstorm stuff in general (which Moore was also involved in off and on), I think because they're both worlds where humanity and its governments have come to terms with superhumans in a way that is more cynical and realistic than the mainstream DC and Marvel continuities, but also isn't completely actively hostile to the idea of superheroes. Incidentally I had a tremendously fun time this month reading Moore's *other* other superhero deconstruction Top 10, which goes in the exact opposite direction by making *every* character be superpowered in some way. It hasn't got as much of a thesis statement as Watchmen or Miracleman, but pegging everybody at roughly the same level is a great way to emphasise everyone's humanity and the mundane unpleasantness of crime and policing, while still getting to have fun with the bizarre panoply that superhero comics offer. (I didn't enjoy the Smax miniseries as much but Top 10: The Forty Niners was excellent. I haven't read the non-Moore instalments yet and am very prepared to be disappointed)

Michael McCarthy

I feel weird about Invincible's willingness to show babies being burnt to death and depicting children being dismembered while also being squeamish about Nudity despite ending season 3 with a naked deus ex machina. A lot of the time it feels less like deconstruction and more for sh*ts and giggles, and pushing boundaries.

Will Cooling

Miracleman wasn't published by Marvel in the UK. In the UK the series was known as Marvelman, and was a revival in Warrior of an old 1950s British rip-off of the Fawcett Captain Marvel comics. When they brought it over to America, anticipating Marvel would object to the title, led them to rename it Miracleman. That gets caught up in an issue with Todd McFarlane, when he picks up their American publishers IP in bankruptcy court. The dispute over rights makes completing Gaiman's series & reprinting Moore's impossible. Marvel get involved in 2009 when it's discussed that Warrior never had the rights to sell in the first place. They do a deal with the original creator, reprinting the original Marvelman comics before finally unpicking the rest of the rights issue to reprint and complete the 1980s revival. The hope had been that it would prove a perennial seller like Watchmen, V for Vendetta or Sandman....but the reaction was fairly underwhelming when it finally got let out of legal limbo


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