KozukeHajime
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Not enough wenches or too many wenches? :P
🕑 Added 2024-02-18 04:28:23 +0000 UTCHello :o
So finally I made the Elisif replacer :P I wanted to give her a more "mature" look trying to "maintain" her vanilla look. I'm still unsure about the outfit, maybe she could wear a dress like Nesyahris or maybe not use a skimpy Jarl outfit but still wear something using the wench body.
Currently you can use the curse on her but I didn't test how this could affect quests related to her when moving her around, I suppose they will work but she would be naked or maybe in some cases get another outfit again.
I think her being a slave should be more a private thing, maybe when cursed the player gets a bounty and a quest to claim her starts there. I'm mainly worried about how this could affect her quests, maybe a bag over her head like with Ethel could also be a solution :P
I also didn't set her to work as a combat follower since I think she shouldnt be able to fight and I think the main thing for her should be to become a "slave" so wip for now ;)
I also wanted to make replacers of other npcs that I think should be considered buxom wenches. I think some should be added to the mod by default.
Susanna the Wicked
Susanna the Wicked was always one of my favorite npcs so I always wanted to turn her into a buxom wench :P I think she should be added to Yuriana mod mainly because her quest is pretty much a reference to Jack the ripper and it could work really well with the mod. I could expand her quest more since I don't think any mod touches it.
I don't think that many mods do something with her since she dies so I think adding her to the mod won't be much of a problem.
Haelga
After posting the previous story I think the mod should have her own version of Haelga, she is a Dibella Follower and knows Yuriana so she should have several dialogues talking about her. She is also related to the Beggars Club and Brad and that should be something mentioned in the mod. Technically it could be just dialogues but I think her being a buxom wench fits her, she has the slut trait :P
I also tried to keep her mature look and maintain the "bitchy vibe" that goes with her dialogues. I dont usually make milf/mature npcs but I kind of like it ;)
Svana Far-Shield
Since Haelga should be a buxom wench I think her being one makes sense too. She also have several comments about what is to work for Haelga so she could potentially have more to say about Dibella, Haelga or other wenches like Yuriana.
Not as important as Haelga but I think it would be weird if she doesnt look like her aunt.
Valerica
I changed Valerica as well but I'm not sure about her looks, I don't want her to look young but I think the outfit just doesnt go with her. I kind of have the same feeling with Elisif that she should be buxom but a little more covered.
I will most likely edit her more. I don't plan to add her to the mod so most likely just Serana, Elisif and Valerica would be in the wench replacers esp since they have several replacers already and are not exactly related to the mod that much. At least in the case of Elisif she should have dialogues about the posters or what is going on with the captured wenches but they are mainly dialogues that can be added without affecting her or quests related to her.
In the file I uploaded all of them are included but I will move the wenches I mentioned to Yuriana mod. I think that won't be an issue. Another one I would like to add is Lydia but just for the replacers esp. After that I will probably make a poll or wait what people think about having too many wenches :P
Immersive Wenches and Yuriana
It seems that most people like the idea of rescuing/capturing immersive wenches and in general people enjoy the last update but one opinion that I noticed is kind of divided is that maybe there are too many buxom wenches now because of turning immersive wenches into buxom wenches.
I usually thought that there isn't such a thing as too many wenches :P but I get that having a lot of buxom wenches with a similar body makes Yuriana or the other wenches less unique even when other female npcs dont look like them. This also could be a "problem" when using Immersive Wenches expansions (deadly, hateful, forgotten, judgement wenches) since those will also become buxom wenches.
So I think the way to deal with that is to make a patch to either make immersive wenches have vanilla bodies by default or the wench body by default (I didnt decide which yet :P) BUT I also want some immersive wenches (my favorites :D ) to be Buxom Wenches by default so I will most likely choose 10-15 immersive wenches to be "considered part of Yuriana's Wenches". Making this patch is not exactly a priority and I would like to know what people think about this.
I will most likely change some other wenches a little like Thally, she was made messing with Yuriana's face so her face has some blocky/odd parts because of it. Still keeping (a little) the big nose :P she also has an "odd role" in the mod so checking that too.
Currently I'm mainly tweaking some scripts and fixing some things reported like the mismatching face/body color. I think I have no choice but to edit all and each wenches manually lol so I will also take the opportunity to tweak their looks individually. I also would like to give another go with the high poly head versions since dealing with the "brows bug" the wenches have with their expressions showed me what I was doing wrong when trying to set high poly faces for the mod and having weird/bad expressions.
There are also some wip quests in the beta that need more tweaking (Ethel, Arabella, Khythaela, Elora, Supay) I'm replaying the mod to check missing voiced files as well and some other stuff like the book stories/info and the covers, next update will be mostly finishing those. My main objective is to fix/complete/finish everything that needs some work so I can finally move to remake Enslaved Inquiry quest and the slave system, those are the main things I want to change/improve so I no longer call the updates betas :D
So I bought Skyrim Again...
I recently bought Skyrim the board game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNUYzXrAvPo and I'm actually enjoying it. It's basicaly a prequel of Skyrim that starts 25 years before the dragonborn appears. I was surprised to find out there are actually mods for this too and after playing a little I miss the wenches u.u
So I think this could be a cool way to add some quests/characters related to the mod (especially some wenches' moms or at least info related to them :P )
Buxom Wench as a character "race"
I made this for fun since the cards are not that "hard" to make and to check if I can use the characters to play, as I mentioned I'm a noob playing it or even playing board games so I still need to check if that is balanced enough, that's the hard part :P
Eventually I will most likely make a print and play version of the cards since I will need that too. Still learning about this stuff.
Some card examples of Inigo follower mod made for Skyrim board game, there are followers too so I will try to do something similar but with wenches ;)
Intro/encounter card for his quest:
This is just a small side thing I will do for myself or anyone who is interested. Maybe I could include the files in the mod or add the cards to the mod at least to collect and check. it may become a good/fun way to plan some quests since the quests cards are basically text and the dragonborn timeline is also part of the board game so Yuriana or other wenches could be added too ;)
For now I will try to learn more about the board game and understand it more lol
Thanks for the support and for reading, let me know what you think about the recent changes of the mod and the thought of "adding too many buxom wenches" maybe becoming a "problem", maybe adding a way to sell/get rid of wenches could be a solution. I'm curious about what people think.
As always suggestions or reports are more than welcome ;)
Have a nice week!
P.D: Susanna is quickly becoming a favorite for me, I will probably add several stuff for her or at least try too... ;)
Comments
Darth Bobo
I'm going to play as a buxum wench
Darth Bobo
This is awesome
Kozuke Hajime
You can do it using xedit and removing the entry of the character you dont want. Other option is load and install the replacer before other replacers so you can let overwrite the changes and use another.
Richard Wheatley
I am liking this NPC replacer, but is there any chance of being able to pick who to not replace? I just found it was causing a CTD because I use a different Serana replacer. Partly my falt for not looking more into who all was replaced, but being able to unselect her would be help if passable.
Sillais Lessi
Other than prepare a compatible JSON file for OBody Next Generation which has your preferences, that can be installed by choice within the fomod wizard. Along with a pre-created JSON with comments and values appropriate to the global defaults of OBody Next Generation, though with references to the NPCs of BWY, Immersive Wenches etc. People would be able use either, as well as create their own, the one based on the default values of OBody Next Generation would be commented suitably, to enable speedy customisation by the user.
Richard Wheatley
No such thing as to meany Wenches!! :)
GaracleS
It's not Koz that makes the BHUNP version, so unless people who get acces to this files and have the okay from Koz. No there isn't
yuki lei
Is the BHUNP body shape available?
William Zhuang
I see. If there is no the mismatch texture problem, I do not mind the custom race of Buxom Wench. But I prefer the idea of MCM option to recognise player as one of the buxom wench. I mean the custom one just look likes Nord, or imperial, while for other who prefer using elves would be disappointed.
Kozuke Hajime
It was the initial idea but people suggested the custom race so only the player and well the wenches have the wench body. Both options are not mutually exclusive so both things can be added, I was thinking to add in the MCM an option to enable the effects of a buxom wench to the player in the MCM or maybe in a dialogue, Im still not sure how since I think it should be something to be set in the start of the game, maybe it could be just a message where you select it or not.
Kozuke Hajime
Mmm I didnt notice it when I tested, it is set as always, I will check O.o
Mizuto
I personally agree that there is no such thing as too much buxom wenches
William Zhuang
May I suggest instead of creating a race of buxom wench, maybe using the alternative life mod to created buxom wench as one of the alternative start? Since buxom wench can be any races.
William Zhuang
Hi Kozuke. Just get a chance to try the Buxom wench race of your mod. I'm using the wench body 2.0 so basically any race I choose will look like Yuriana. But for the Buxom wench race, there is a clear mismatch of texture between the head and the body which does not exist if I just choose the normal race. I did not see anyone else mentioned this to you.
Randolph T Schreck
Love what you do. The attention to detail and quality of your work make every update worth the wait
Piero Gómez
Creo que enfocarte una en una es un punto correcto, pero por lo que he visto en el discord la mayoría quiere la historia principal, yo también estoy ansioso por ello, eres muy buen modder y es como ha quiero que todo avance de una vez, pero yo seré feliz con cualquier cosa que nos des así que sin presiones haces un excelente trabajo
Piero Gómez
Cuando me llegó la notificación del comentario y leí Koz pensé: Genial una actualización
Kozuke Hajime
En cuanto a replacers tampoco creo que sea necesario hacer muchos, Serana es simplemente algo que queria hacer :P tal vez haga tambien a Lydia pero ya esos replacers serian por gustos propios. Haelga, las sacerdotisas de Dibella y Susanna si creo que deberian ser parte del mod. En todo caso como dices mejorar las wenches secundarias es la idea, hay mucho que contar de ellas tambien. ;)
Kozuke Hajime
She was enslaved when Arabella was enslaved after Yuriana was sold to the beggars club before meeting them but since that changed I had to disable that for now. I guess Arabella story is always next, since I'm doing several things now, its not like when I focused completely in Ethel's quest and just did her quest so with Arabella its taking more time to add her stuff. :P
Randolph T Schreck
I noticed alanna has a voluntary submission document in the files ... is she enslavable or is that for a future updat? If so how do i enslave her i looked at the wench guide but couldnt get it. Is the Arabella story ark still next?
Piero Gómez
Yo no me opongo la oportunidad de conseguir nuevas mozas, yo por lo general descargo nuevas casas con varios espacios para seguidores y dejo mínimo a unas 3 en cada una, aunque admito que nunca he sido muy fan de que hagas mozas a elisif o a Serana, siento que personajes no relacionados a dibella se pierde el encanto, pero preferiría que hagas con las otras mozas secundarias lo que hiciste con Ethel, sobre todo Tigra, Deliah y Hazel
Kozuke Hajime
I try to set the mod so it works without the need of any mod. Obody would actually be a "fix" for people to edit the wenches, I dont really have to do anything and people can just change the bodies however they want with it :P
Kozuke Hajime
Well I will say that's already planned, the thing is adding all that :P so eventually it will be aded ;)
Sillais Lessi
Another option as a way to handle this could be having it so that the Buxom Wenches, Immersive Wenches etc. Are compatible with OBody Next Generation (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77016). The Wenches could be handled by updating the Buxom Wench preset and having it so, that they get distributed by OBody Next Generation.
Owl
I know this is not directly related to the post, but had to say it. I JUST GOTTA KNOW WHATS GOING ON WITH ME AND INGITH! I really hope you are going to finish that plot line. I have so many ideas on where that may be heading. FYI its looks like a potentially dark route and I have no objections at all. just really want to see.
Kozuke Hajime
Its one of the things I want to change since currently its a 50% to get it after you convince her to stop after the day parade.
Randolph T Schreck
I cant seem to get ethel's cow ending ... loving the update though
deathlegion6 deathlegion6
i see thx
Kozuke Hajime
I remember those stitches were from a follower, thanks, I will check.
Kozuke Hajime
Be sure you are using 1.5.6 with the fixes I uploaded and not just the fixes alone O.o
CGI_Models
There can never be enough. I would like to see 1> Yuriana follower without the quests 2> Keep the option for everything you have. 3> Pick main characters in the game and use the wench body as a replacer. :)
deathlegion6 deathlegion6
hmm some wenches dont have a body and elisf is blue i have all the current mods bwy 1.54 is off and such or is it still needed with 1.56
Курама
I am on the "too many wenches" side. Personally I feel that the ever increasing amount of wenches takes away from the uniqueness of the wenches as a whole.
Paul C
Thanks, yeah the replacing isnt something I was worrying about, just how having her as a slave AND doing a romance with Amorous Adventures is going to play out. If no adverse effects, then I'm all good. Thank you got fixing some of the crashes being caused by the generic wenches in other parts of the game BTW :D
William Zhuang
A new look of Jarl Elisf looks great. Hopefully we can have bit more site quest on her theme in the future after all we do need to get her naked on Subjugated wench mod.
Raven
Indeed, the Blood on the Ice mission was supposed to be a short one. I don't know why this task is so bug-prone.
RHeinz1
There’s a mod called “Faerie Elves” that has textures and race presets for what is basically the stitched zombie. I’m not sure if that could help you but maybe you can get the textures from that mods creator or something?
Kozuke Hajime
I read that the quest tends to get buggy, I guess I could try to fix it and change it adding the option to save her too.
Kozuke Hajime
Mmm I suppose those work adding custom quests. I guess the conflict could be some inconsistencies like Elisif being a slave while still romancing her :P I don't think amorous adventures mod changes her looks. Im not sure though. O.o That's also one of the reasons I prefer some popular NPCs that most likely have several mods for them to be in the replacer esp as an optional thing.
Kozuke Hajime
Yeah I guess I should post a better pic, the idea was that she was supposed to be "ugly" but I think her just wanted Yuriana's body is enough.
Kozuke Hajime
It's one of the options for it :P I was thinking of maybe changing how that quest works since the game makes it impossible for you to save her for example, I think that could be a good option.
Kozuke Hajime
It's something I was trying to do when making hateful wenches, I wonder if there are racemenu overlays for it now, I also prefer a zombie wench with just stiches and pale skin :P
RHeinz1
I love the idea of having more wenches BUT, we absolutely need to be able to sell them maybe like a Paradise Halls type system or the elusive auction house (personally I’d prefer an auction house). If you’re taking requests for wench ideas… maybe a zombie wench in the style of the anime “Zombieland Saga” with the stitching instead of rotting.
John
Susanna could be revived as a Hateful Wench after you've completed Blood on the Ice where she is murdered. Completing Ashra's quests would probably also have to be a requirement.
Owl
These changes to vanilla NPCs are great! Keep it coming and love this mod. As far as too many wenches....I trust your judgment. I got no complaints either way.
Baron Ned
Very exciting stuff, I love the idea of more Dibellan followers becoming Buxom personally, and the new designs for Elisif, and Susanna in particular look great. Also the fact you've modded your skyrim board game is so funny, I love this community. Is that screenshot of Thally the new design? Because it looks great too. I've always liked Thally's design, as they say; "Imperfection is perfection."
Paul C
For me, the only concern I would have with the tweaks on the 'OG' characters, would be conflicts with some of the more popular mods that also touch them. I personally use Amorous Adventures along side Yuriana, and I can see conflicts coming with changes to Elisif specifically. I kind of wish that someone else in the mod community would bake in a FMOD selector allowing you to 'turn off' the parts of Amorous that might conflict with things like this update that you are working on. Thank you for all your work on this!
EDO YAN
I think Yuriana and Ethel are special people. I would like to apply a default body to the captured wenches.
Raven
Totally agree, Susanna doesn't have a MOD worth mentioning other than one that can make her undead, maybe you can do a story quest to save her?
Zan
There is not such thing as too many wenches. More the better!
The_Edgaronii.11
Not enough wenches. I feel as though I stand alone on this(just an opinion), but 2(or more) wenches in each possible faction with intertwined stories would bring a bit more life. [Please note these are just suggestions and ideas. I love the immersive work that has been given to us already.]
Dr.Bones
First off: Love the mod, I think I already said it in the discord a while back but never hurts to repeat a praise. Second. I haven't tried the new version of it. Mainly because of the "too many wenches" issue you are asking about. I still have the latest "non- immersive wenches" version. And it is a core mod of one of my characters playthroughs. But yeah, I think having too many girls with the buxom bodies kinda ruins the "feel" of the main characters. If it were for me (and I know this will not be the popular opinion) I'll just have like 5 max 10 wench bodies around... I feel like having half the women population of skyrim with Dibella's blessing kinda makes it not as special as it should. I still remember when I first tried the mod, and finding a girl with the buxom body was a special treat. I like the idea of a patch as a middle ground compromise though, that way each side has the option to chose. Regardless: Your mod, your choice. Keep being awesome!
