KINNPORSHE E1 - UNCUT REACTION - FIRST TIME BL
🕑 Added 2024-06-11 11:24:26 +0000 UTCBREAKING NEWS FOLKS!
You are reading this right - We are finally jumping in BL!
We are so excited to bring you our first time reaction to this genre and the series KINNPORSHE
It's is so brilliant and important for ASWT to be able to explore and review LGBTQ media representation across the globe and throughout so many cultures.
We hope you enjoy!
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Alex & Josh
xoxo
Comments
Layla
same
Vedia
I got patron just to watch these KP reactions. I really hope there are more BL series reactions in the future.
emmadilemma
I became a patron to watch these KP reactions with the additional hope that your "jump into BL" means that you will do more! There are lots of BL reactions but I love how thoughtful and humorous you guys are. I have heard before that BL does not always equal queer media because it is a genre originally created by and catering to straight women. Therefore the stories are often female fantasies (plus rom-com and manga tropes) rather than authentic queer stories. I feel that's fair, but I'm also curious to see how those concepts overlap and I'm interested to see your take on the genre. I also wonder if Asian BLs will reflect queer stories more authentically in the future as they gain popularity.
Lisa M T
Cosmetology is hair styling! Astrology is the star sign stuff. You guys are so fun!!
Ruth May
Same.
Saye
Just so you know, KinnPorsche is misspellt in the tag.
Saye
So did I, and we are not the only ones . Much love to Thai fans !
Saye
I know !!! I could not believe it . Now I wonder if he has even ever heard of the Everly Brothers . I mean, Alex can quote Monty Python Holy Grail that was filmed 15 years before Ghost so it's not really a question of age, is it ?
Saye
As it's still Pride Month, may I just say one of the actors in the series is a proud out and loud activist and a fantastic single father to a boy he adopted . Two years ago he took a big Pride flag from a member in the audience and waved it on stage (during their Tour abroad in Asia) which was daring and heartwarming . KP is not just a successful series, it's also a saga in real life, with its amazing and also dramatic or ugly moments, and it almost never came into existence . Which is why some old fans like me can sometimes sound a little obsessed...
Saye
Hello Alex and Josh, pleasure to meet you . You have a new fan from France. KP ( aka KinnPorsche) was a bold and great first choice ! I had been dilly-dallying for years with the idea of joining Discord and Patreon ( BL fans like me are almost always Yaoi lovers and I wanted to support the artists ) , you made me do both yesterday and today . That's the KP effect.
Basingstoke
SO problematic, so much fun!
Apple
became a patron just because of this! Lets do this!
Sam S
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Lizeth Morpal
They have the date of reaction to episode 2?, this is really very good, I need to see it now!
Sam w
One of my favorite things about bl is the way the queerness is just part of the story. Like yes, they're about gay men, but they all have some other plot and the gayness is almost not important or not the focus. Most western gay media still is all about the experience of being gay, and coming out, and societal acceptance. All of which are important to see I'm media, but it is so refreshing to have other plots.
D.A. Rowley
Same, and ep 3, 4, 5, 6....and on and on and on....
Lizeth Morpal
I need the second episode!! Please!! 🙏
ข้าว ตาปนานนท์ (khao)
Literally became a member just to watch this in full length. LOVE FROM THAILAND 🏳️🌈🇹🇭
D.A. Rowley
I can't wait for them to meet Vegas, Pete, Kim, Tankhun, especially Vegas and Tankhun. Two of the best actors in the business.
D.A. Rowley
Same. This is a great series and should be watched. Oh and the NC scenes are very delicious.....lol
Aiden Woodstein
I'm excited you guys are reacting to this. It's a wild first BL to watch for sure.
Ruth May
Not me constantly refreshing the page to anticipate episode 2. Being patient but this series is just SO good…🙃
Jose
Yay finally a BL!
Sara Nissen
I hope they don't get any trouble with Patreon for too explicit scenes, because I think I remember reading somewhere you have to make your side 18+ for that.
Dionna
Lmaooo one of the most toxic BLs I have ever watched I’m so ready 😭
D.A. Rowley
CONGRATULATIONS THAILAND!!!!! https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/18/asia/thailand-same-sex-marriage-intl-hnk/index.html
D.A. Rowley
BTW Jeff Satur was also a composer of many of the songs and music used on this series as well as staring as Kim the youngest brother. His music is just so damn good.
D.A. Rowley
My thoughts exactly. I love Tankhun (Tong is just so damn good in this role, oh and he is also gay). I have seen him in Tharn Type too and the older brother but way different than Tankhun..lol
Magical Adorabella
I really enjoyed watching this show, will watching. Thanks Alex and Josh🏳️🌈
Ruth May
👏🏼😏
Nic
Words cannot describe how excited I am to watch you react to the rest of this show
Michael Craig
It's kind of amusing that Apo (who plays Porsche) is now a brand ambassador for Piaget (luxury watches). Wonder if they've seen this episode?
Michael Craig
'Bad Buddy', right? I know what you mean...
Alanna Smith
Omg yay y’all are gonna love this series
Kennia
next ep hopefully
NaNaNa_Naaaa
had soooo much rewatching this episode with your reaction, looking forward to the rest of it 💜
Suze
The movie or the scene? Because even without seeing the film, the scene is pretty iconic. Getting to the important part of the video right here 😂
Nic
I didn't see it until i was 27 so...
Suze
Why is no one commenting on the important issue here: how the hell has Josh got to the age of 29 without seeing that scene from Ghost?!
Allinug
At least they didn‘t put random scenes into KinnPorsche just to show the product. When I saw this the first time, that the main characters suddenly and out of nowhere started to clean each others faces with some product - I just couldn‘t believe it. And the stortytelling is generally very different in bls compared to western media. I needed some time to get used to it.
ikra
There are GL series series - in the last few years in Thailand they’ve become a lot more popular and common - even the big production companies are starting to focus on them. BL very much used to be a cheap and easy cash grab - it was always about boys in school or college (hence why it’s boy love and not man love) but over the years the fanbase has grown and aged up and it’s much rarer to see those cute fluffy school/university storylines anymore - we’ve got a lot of fantasy and mafia plots instead. It’s a really fascinating industry that lot of people have a mixture of feelings on. There’s truly no industry in the western world to compare it to.
Aster
No no, when Josh and Alex get to hot scenes they fan themselves with this big hand fan, I'm referring to that lmao
Grace
I laughed when he said Stockholm syndrome hahaha
Michael Craig
Another little detail that I liked was when Porsche is making Kinn a drink at Hum Bar, he makes him an Old Fashioned...which is perfect for Kinn.
Natalie A
The first Asian country to legalise same sex marriage was actually Taiwan. And its funny cause Taiwanese BL productions kinda like to rub that in. Hopefully Thailand will soon join the list!
Ruth May
Well spotted re. the chess metaphor. KinnPorsche is very sharp, witty and often funny as well as everything else it does so well.
Ruth May
That bread looked excellent. 👏🏼😂 If you know, you know..
Michael Craig
Can't wait for Alex to meet Thankun!
Michael Craig
When I first started watching Thai shows, I was shocked at how heavy handed and obvious the product placement was...but this show does it better than any other I've seen. So many showers, and bread, and Maseratis, and instant ramen, and inhalers, and hair coloring.... And I so wanted to buy the bread by the end of the show.
Michael Craig
Deutsche Bank should have been a sponsor!
Michael Craig
Well, y'all made my day with this...I love this show and am so glad you seemed excited to watch it. I'm interested to see Josh navigate a Mafia story with characters who all have trouble with boundaries. Josh should also be interested in chess metaphors...when the father ( Mr. Korn) says he's now got the last piece (Porsche) he's putting the Queen on the board, and that's not an accident. Another thing this show does well is the music...the little music cues are all very apt, as well as a couple great songs.
D.A. Rowley
Hi Nini! It's me Donna from my discord...lol
D.A. Rowley
BTW guys, fans in Asia is common gay or straight.
D.A. Rowley
From google: Thailand's House of Representatives passed a same-sex marriage bill on March 27, 2024, with 400 votes in favor and 10 against. The bill, which amends the Civil and Commercial Code, now needs approval from the Senate and the King before it becomes law. The Senate is expected to vote on the bill on June 18, 2024. If passed, Thailand would become the first country in Southeast Asia and the second in Asia to recognize same-sex marriage.
Haras
For reference, the stick that Porsche shoves up his nose before the fight isn't poppers or any other illegal drug, it's a herbal nasal inhaler. They're apparently quite popular in Thailand. Related, there is A LOT of product placement in Thai TV shows, and I definitely remember a scene where the name of the brand of inhaler was shown quite prominently. Not sure if it was KinnPorsche or a different show.
Maxi_heart
I can´t believe you are jumping into BL with KinnPorsch. Love it though and merited an upgrade to a patreon membership after following you on youtube for quite a while. I am looking forward to your reactions.
Nini L
I can promise you, as a veteran BL fan and your friendly neighborhood expert on the discord, that you guys are going to LOVE this show. Its mature, with mature themes, and the romance is compelling. Not going to spoil, but there is a REASON why KinnPorche was so massively popular when it aired. It took the BL community by storm.
Aster
Oh boys, get ready to use that fan
Audrey Gunn
I know, so jealous 😢
Ruth May
Correction: the first south-east Asian country, not the first in Asia. But as the news article makes clear, there’s still a long way to go, in terms of trans rights, for example.
Ruth May
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-68672318 And here’s the link to the BBC news item on this issue.
Ruth May
On the subject of Thailand, it’s set to be the first Asian country to legalise same-sex marriage according to what I have read in recent news. The legislation is expected to be approved fairly soon, after already going through the Lower House.
Natalie A
Love in the Air was my second BL after Kinnporsche. Love the show and I definitely subscribe the headcannon of Phayu and Prapai being the adopted kids of the KP characters. LITA is like baby KP and more fluffy :)
Ruth May
Aren’t they just! I actually envy Alex and Josh watching this for the first time! 🥵🔥💥
Ruth May
Agreed! 🥰
Nic
Had to become a member for this. I just have to see the reaction to this show!
D.A. Rowley
Oh, I know. I love Vegas, well Bible anyway...Vegas is such an interesting character and Bible just is so damn good in this role.
D.A. Rowley
Same!
D.A. Rowley
and Rain and P Payu (Noeul and Boss) are just so good in this series and can't wait for The Boy Next World.
D.A. Rowley
There are just so many good BL's and KinnPorsche is top tier. Info on Thai honorifics.....: Hia is used for older brother, but it can also be used for an endearment with a significant other if that s.o. is older. Hia is the older of the two and "nong" is the younger. "P" sometimes spelled "phi" (sounds like pea), is also for the older of the person being spoken to and nong is for the younger. Also "Hia" and "Phi" are used for those of Chinese ancestry. The use of Hia is more "formal" and "P or Phi" less formal more an everyday use among people who know each other. Watching BL's will give you insight into Thai culture. In another BL "Love In The Air" (so good and oh my the nc scenes are yummy), the characters are P' Payu and Nong Rain, now Rain uses P' Payu when speaking to him but Payu does not use the nong honorific with Rain. It all depends on how the two feel and or are comfortable with the honorifics. If they were in formal setting then yes the honorifics would be used. Just a bit of info that I have learned from watching Thai BL's. Just wait until you get to S Korean, Taiwan, Japan, Philippines BL's....lol Oh and here is a run down of what country does about the intimate scenes. Japan: maybe a kiss, maybe. Although they have stepped up the game a little. S Korea is getting bolder in their intimate scenes...I actually saw a bl couple that had them in bed....shock.lol. Taiwan is wanting to set a new bar and of course Thailand is no holds barred. Kinn Porsche was the series that broke the rules when it came to NC scenes and now all the new bl's are trying to meet that bar and go above it. Yummy! Philippines has nothing to mention as I have only seen maybe 1 or 2 bl's from there most notably Game Boys which is awesome. Okay, enough for now.
Audrey Gunn
I have also watched Love in the Air and can agree, it’s much more rom com style but does have its fair share of serious moments as well. You definitely need to react to that one too 😊
Audrey Gunn
I 100% agree that this song is a must listen, Jeff Satur is an immensely talented person, acting, singing, producing, he even has his own production company 😊
Audrey Gunn
Omg, I had just cancelled all my Patreon subs but after Ruth told me about you watching KinnPorsche I had to become a patron so I could watch it. KP was my first ever BL and I am soo excited for you both to see it for the first time. You are in for a wild ride 😁😁😁
D.A. Rowley
One thing to know about BL actors....most of them are older than they look. Earth (Cooheart) is almost 30 but can still play a high school student. A place to go for info on BL series/movies is My Drama List which is a Imdb for BL's it will give you so much info on the actors, series etc.
D.A. Rowley
And Until We Meet Again and Between Us....so good....
Duckbie
Omg, here for it!
BibiG
Please tell me you’re going to watch this entire season. Please tell me this cause I’m so here for it. I wanna see your reactions.
dnh1286
Love love love that you're starting your BL journey. Multiple people said it already, but you need to watch the La Forte version!!!! I love your hypothesis about the love story, looking forward to your reaction to what happens next.
D.A. Rowley
Also, 200,000 Thai Bhat is a little over 4,000 Pounds and a little over 5,000 US Dollars. So, 1000 thai baht is about 21.00 pounds, and 27.00 US Dollars. You can live in Bangkock in a nice apartment for less than 2K Pounds or US.
Sam S
Are you on the ASWT Discord? We have the official recommendations list on there. There are a load of great shows already on the list, and we can add any new ones that people bring to our MODs team (so long as they contain queer representation). As far as foreign queer films/series go, Alex and Josh have obviously reacted to Young Royals and Smiley before. So they are definitely open to foreign language media. It’s exciting that they are now dipping their toes into a show from outside the western queer media lens.
Megan Brady
It appears so from the title card of the show at the beginning that has the 'La Forte' stamp on it
Megan Brady
Although so completely different in a kind of whiplash type of way, that's also such an amazing show! Hope they react to Cutie Pie
D.A. Rowley
Don't forget the NC scenes...omg. Once you go BL you won't go back...just sayin....Need to watch the La Forte version!
D.A. Rowley
Totally! They didn't start with Cutie Pie, they went right for the jugular!
Ruth May
I certainly hope they are! For Alex’s sake! 😂😉
Ivy Yap
Will need to watch this after work, but inquiring minds want to know: are the guys watching the uncut La Forte version?
Ruth May
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZF8RXvV9sQ Here’s the link to Jeff Satur (Who also plays Kim, Kinn’s younger brother in the show) singing Why Don’t You Stay? Fabulous 🫠
Ruth May
Your facial expressions during this first episode were absolutely 💯 worth watching for that alone, guys! 😂 Alex, if you’re ‘aroused’ in the first 10 minutes of episode 1, OMG, have you got some pleasant surprises in store! Trust me, this series just gets better and better and more addictive as it progresses…I am really looking forward to seeing your reaction to episode 2. And thanks for a very enjoyable and entertaining re-watch...👏🏼🥰
Hanna 💜
Oh, this is gonna be good! Just wait ‘till you meet Vegas…
Ivy Yap
Same! I need to go to work in a few minutes! Oh well, something to look forward to 😄
sierra's reaction corner
Had to become a Patron for this one! I haven't watched very many bls so I'm not an expert on the genre or anything, but of the few I've seen this is one of my favorites! Now what I do watch more of is GLs (girl's love dramas) lol so I can confirm those exist. There's not nearly as many, but it's growing in popularity! GAP is my favorite, so maybe one day you'll check that one out lol If you get confused about the money thing just know that the numbers aren't as large as they sound. For example, the 2 Million Baht that the watch was worth equals to about $43k pounds or $55k USD.
Sara Nissen
I love Porsches little brother Porschay, he is so cute and sweet and innoscent, and needs to be protected(Porschay protection squad hehe). Btw The first one to speak of porsches bodyguards/henshmen who came out of the cars when Porsche left Kinn after the motorcycle ride is actually half Thai half Australian, so in his roles they might get him to speak some english(his thai acting( nick)name in the industry is Perth but his Australian name is Stewart.)
Natalie A
AHHH I am so pumped for your journey into BL. Welcome to the world of branded pairs, product placements, and worlds where honestly if you are straight you are the minority. Please come over the BL channel on Discord cause we would love to chat with you there and help answer questions. Kinnporsche is a doozy of a show but really embodies so much of Asian BL. The fact you are going into this blind is gonna be incredible. It has romance, comedy, crime, and all sorts of other stuff wrapped up in a Mafia bow but everything is gay! Really excited to give you some fun facts as you go along :) (Also quick note if you are concerned about underage all the characters are supposed to be in their 20s+. The only exception is Porchay (the younger brother). His actor was 17 at the time of filming so same as his character and underage.)
Ruth May
I just watched another Thai series called Love-in-the-air, which is fluffier but very enjoyable and it has its more serious moments. It’s a two-part love story and is kinda rom-com in style. The first story is very good and very amusing at times. Btw, Jeff Satur singing the theme song from KinnPorsche, Why Don’t You Stay is fabulous, a great musician with a million dollar voice, in my opinion. There’s a Thai lyrics version as well as an English lyrics version and both are available on YouTube. The KinnPorsche World Tour video of him singing it is amazing.🤩
Sara Nissen
Now you entered the rabbithole/genre that is BL. It is not just Southeast Asian, I would just say Asian. Thailand might be heavily represented in this genre, but countries such as for example the Phillipines, Korea, Japan, Taiwan etc have many good ones too. You might sometimes need to understand some cultural aspects, to understand why some people in BLs act like they do( and some bls are more westernised). But I'm sure people will answer your questions along the way/tell you what they think you need to know, also if you get into other bls. This is one of the more heavy Bls( bls enter different genres, so some are more heavy and mature than others, and some are just cute, romantic and fluffy.) There are also so called GLs(Girls Love), and they are slowly making more and more of them as well, but so far Bls are more dominant.
Sara
I was about to recommend this to you guya but I had no idea yall were open for foreign bls!! Can't wait to watch this!!
EKJ
Omg wow so exciting, so many great Thai bl series that you can see!!!!
Sam S
Here is the link to join the Discord for anyone who isn’t on there already. https://discord.gg/U22TCpZrmr
booknerd_charlie
So glad to see how excited everyone is for this reaction 😊 For those who aren’t part of our Discord community yet, please consider joining, we have an entire channel dedicated to BL and Eastern media. There’s always lots of enthusiastic, and thoughtful conversations going on there, so come do a deep dive with our knowledgeable members and hang out in our super-cool Discord community. I promise we’re all really nice 😆
Teddy
Banking in Bangkok immediately made me think of Deutsche Bank 💀 which will eventually make sense to you
CharlieQ
Beyond excited for this!!! No time to watch now - I’m at work 🫤 but saw the notification and had to drop in to say 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Teddy
Oh my god yes!!!!!! I’ve been waiting so long 🥺 Edit - I can’t actually watch this now because I have the doctors soon but I’m sure I can watch an hour in twenty minutes
Ruth May
I got way too excited there and posted before I had actually said anything 😂 This is the best news ! My all-time favourite series - in my opinion, the best quality, best acting, best chemistry and just about best everything in one show, second only to Young Royals in my must-watch list-and that’s a LOT, coming from me! And watching it with you guys! Thanks! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Ruth May
OMG!,,
Laura S.
Ahhhhhh yess!!! I have so many recommendations for you 😂
A.Lo
AAAAAAAAH OMG, I love Kinnporsche so much! Such an amazing show can’t wait to see your reaction!!! It kept on getting better and better as the episode go by❤️😍
Megan Brady
Ahhhhh I can't tell you how much I just screamed when I saw this! You're in for one hell of a ride haha, and what a one to start with!