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3.24 In Which the Dark Lord Gets Schooled

🕑 Added 2022-07-08 01:55:30 +0000 UTC

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Too Much Sanity May Be Madness

@Mickey Phoenix: Oh, absolutely. But it still would be easier and quicker to double, triple, quadruple-check the answer than it would be to re-solve the whole problem from scratch and check the answer that way. That is, of course, if you're confident that the question only has one correct answer.

Ian Tonelli

If this is the same universe as TGAB, I demand that Vesk and Seiji meet. Hopefully in a chapter from the PoV of Tris or Aster.

BagFullOfLizards

A sixth option: the spirit’s math problem isn’t in Earth numbers, it’s in whatever way Ephemera represents it. Yoshi and Seiji’s translation blessing works on math the same way it works on all other text.

BagFullOfLizards

These Gods Are Also Bastards XD

fionag11

Well. "Trust" was pretty vague. Trust for whom. Everyone is his current entourage? Everyone including all Seiji's followers, and all the goblins that just joined them? That's a lot of trust to rely on. Seiji's answer was much more specific. Yoshi got gypped.

fionag11

Huh, I feel for him.

Mickey Phoenix

Remember to take into account that he has not solved math problems in probably a decade. We're not necessarily talking just add, subtract, multiply, and divide here -- there's also x^y and square root, and probably a couple more I'm not thinking of the moment. And it's easy to make mistakes in checking your work -- especially when checking your work potentially involves evaluating things like x^(x^3)^-2^3. Unless X is 0 or 1, you're looking at a *distinctly* non-trivial expression to evaluate. Seriously -- try it for x = 2, and then tell me if he should've just trusted that he'd checked his work correctly the first time! (Basis: I tutored someone in math once. Successfully. She had been getting straight Ds in math. After two tutoring sessions with me, she became a straight-A student. Truth. I taught her how to check her work. 🙂)

Too Much Sanity May Be Madness

Precisely. And I've thought of a fifth possibility, which has moved to the top of my list: if the Spirit is willing to answer questions about order of operations, it's probably willing to straight-out tell people what the various symbols mean, if asked. A linguistic barrier isn't part of the challenge that it's presenting; it just wants to test math skills. Anything that prevents it from posing its problem in a way that can be unambiguously understood (like order of operations, or unfamiliar symbols), it is probably happy to clarify about.

Ian Tonelli

I agree with the not so sane one on point 2. Hell I remember solving calc problems using smiley faces and fruits. A symbol is a symbol, and in algebra that's all that matters. Although symbols for operations and stuff like paranthesis could cause problems, but assuming the goddesses made sure that math developed in a certain way, even that is easy to handwave away.

Too Much Sanity May Be Madness

I would just like to take a moment to be disappointed with Seiji. Not for taking several attempts to solve the problem; that's fine. But it should only have taken him three. Algebra problems can be difficult to solve, but it's nearly always trivial to verify that you have the correct solution. No matter how convoluted the problem was, it should have been pretty trivial to plug "seven" into the equation that the Spirit presented and verify that it was the correct answer, and a lot faster than solving the whole thing twice more.

Too Much Sanity May Be Madness

One might even say that The Gods are Bast- OW! Stop hitting me!

Too Much Sanity May Be Madness

I can think of four possible answers. 1. The Spirit knows enough to present the problem in the language of the solver. 2. Math is frequently used in science fiction as a universal language. After a few attempts, the goblins should have been easily able to figure out what the symbols meant - and then offer a translation service to anyone willing to pay the right price. 3. The Spirit offers a limited Blessing of Wisdom, just enough for the solver to understand the question for the duration of the challenge. 4. Due to Spirits like this, the mathematics of Ephemera are done using the symbols that we are familiar with. I would think that #1 and #2 are much more likely answers than #3 or #4. I would lean slightly towards #1 over #2, but only slightly.

Leaf

Okay that was good. Certainly a not so subtle way of making sure goblins are good at math.

Finn Ryan

So now I am just wondering how any native would be able to solve the questions in this Spirit since it is in Arabic and english lettering.

Billy Overlord

That spirit is more annoying than Seiji!

Wolfkit

The gods work in mysterious and assholish ways.


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