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3.27 In Which the Dark Lord Tries Diplomacy

🕑 Added 2022-07-26 00:09:12 +0000 UTC

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Mickey Phoenix

I don't claim to understand the cultural context behind "ara, ara, ara" particularly well, either in actual Japanese culture or in anime. But as far as Dr. Google, PhD Linguistics can tell me, it sounds to me like a very close idiomatic translation would be "Oh, dearie, dearie, me!" In which case -- well, I can understand why he'd feel a little bit awkward about saying it, because it's definitely not a typical thing for a manly man to say. But Seiji has never struck me particularly as a manly man; that's one of the things I like best about him. He's not stuck on his own ego, or trying to cover up his insecurities behind a facade of macho bravado. And there's something I think that he may be overlooking in how he imagines Yoshi reacting to him saying it: his use of the idiom actually declares a very strong position relative to his adversaries. To put it in a word: it's contemptuous. It's something you say to your grandson after he has smashed your favorite vase, not something you say to an adversary who threatens all you hold dear. It's like saying "Oh, now aren't you cute!" to someone who is posturing and threatening you. Basically -- if I'm getting the connotations right -- I think Yoshi is at least as likely to read it as a power move on Seiji's part as to read it as "Why is Seiji talking like a grandma?!" Because he knows darn well, from that perspective, why Seiji is talking like a grandma. He's doing it to belittle his adversary, and show, with casual contempt, how lightly he is taking their supposed threat." And not just Yoshi. Simply from tone of voice, I think most listeners would infer that he is...*scolding* his enemies. And that's a pretty strong position to take against anyone. It's not a *nice* position to take. Contempt isn't really a great look on anyone. Except in the rare case where someone is actually behaving contemptibly -- which, honestly, seems to map pretty closely to the situations where we've seen Seiji using that idiom. In short, for all that Seiji is normally pretty adept at social manipulation, I think he's getting this one wrong, and worrying unnecessarily about his own actions in these cases. As CS Lewis once put it, the only thing the Devil cannot stand is to be laughed at. When someone shows up threatening to burn down the world, and you respond to them with, "Oh, dearie, dearie me...did you miss your nap time again, and get in a fight with the other little boys? My, my, what a mess...", no one is going to think that you are weak, or that you're some sort of weird grandma. They're going to think that you're being *absolutely brutal* to your enemies and eviscerating them verbally, in classic Dark Lord style. At least, that's my theory on how people will experience him saying "Ara, ara, ara..."

Russell Todd

If they do have to split, that would be the tactically sound way to do it. Seiji is the one best equipped to handle a cult-of-personality revolutionary and Yoshi has the mindset for a classic hero versus evil cultist showdown

Too Much Sanity May Be Madness

I wonder if the "Don't split the party" role applies if there are actually two parties, under the care of two different DMs. Because it looks like that's what they'll have to do; both encounters will be harder apart than either would be together, but such is life. I imagine Seiji will be on Team Goblin King and Yoshi will be on Team Void Witch.

Russell Todd

Oooh, just realized Radatina said on *Ephemera*. Goddesses might retire champions to their own little pocket realm.

Russell Todd

Well, I guess we’re going to find out if there’s a retired apex Dark Lord out there chilling on a beach. This really sounds like the kind of situation where contingency plans like that would get called in.

Aaradur

It seems to me that THIS time, they chose a dark lord and hero that actually may get along... might be that thats no accident, but rather a move targeting the Void

Pyro Hawk

On a scale of -10 to 10 of 'how well are things going... We just found -1111. Why do I have a feeling that the Goddesses themselves might be panicking JUST A BIT about this loophole that was just uncovered? Especially if they can't patch it. Because this is a reproducible loophole. And the only way to fix it without being able to patch the loophole itself is... Well, it kind of goes directly against keeping the thematics of the world they've chosen as the 'setting' for their 'real live dramas'. Hell, even if they had a modern society, I wouldn't say that was a 'solved' problem. It's just much harder to have happen to the degree you can get hundreds of souls at once.

Arillius

Great chapter man. Really chilling. Might be the 104 fever but I was also really into the scene so great detail!

Fuzzycakes

i really hope zui gets recruited instead of dying

Saltymen

“You promised them a better life if they fought for it, and then you threw them away like garbage! What is wrong with you? How can anyone be like this?!” I think Yoshi is projecting hard here. Sounds like something he ought to be saying to Sanora.

Glau Hansen

I like it! I like the way it was a fight nobody wanted, I like the careless healing of the hero's party and get fucked, and I like that he's really starting to trust Zie.


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