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Chapter 25: Willem's Deadly Battle

🕑 Added 2025-01-27 07:07:35 +0000 UTC

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Beeees!

Had me grinning biig

tibbish

If the economy works anything like it does IRL 1 gold would be about what your average Medevial peasant family could earn in a year. And they'd all have been working since the age of 5 or so 6-7 days a week. Typically in 8-10 hour shift but also 16-24 hour shifts during harvest time too. In that sort've economy 1000 gold would instantly make him filthy rich enough to retire and buy a paper lord's title if he wanted.

Michael Vonica

I'll try looking into those organizations. I'm also looking forward to where you do decide to go with the story. From what I've seen so far, Willem is much more interested in managing money over managing businesses that directly produce goods or provide services. He's only got 24 hours in a day, so best to spend them doing what he knows best. But I also wouldn't be surprised if he eventually tried paying someone to design some industrial equipment, or just convinced one of his partners to invest in it.

Nemorosus

Capitalistic organizations existed in the context of medieval Europe, and they often punched far above their weight. Venice, Genoa-- and for non-sovereign states, the Hanseatic League. The Venetian Arsenal was among the first to mass-produce ships, as referenced in this chapter. That's more my area of interest because it has precedent. Willem doesn't have the know-how to use coal or oil, and that's not quite the direction I want to take with the story anyhow.

WarStrider72

Haha, Karel folded so easily be the offer of 1000 gold and free food.

Michael Vonica

If you want to throw a wrench in Willem's plans, you could make it so the world has limited coal and oil supplies. Maybe the world literally isn't old enough for them to exist yet. Or there are weird monsters who eat them, or like to burrow around and make nests in deposits. Either way, he would have to get creative about working around the limitations. Another thing. Something was bothering me about Willem talking about how he can shift society using only capitalism. Doesn't his approach only work because he already occupies a position of privilege? If he was just some average guy, he could still build up successful businesses, just off his knowledge and experience. But without military or political support, wouldn't someone already in power eventually just seize his assets? Sure, you could say that it would be illegal for someone to do that to him. But for a privileged class of nobility, the law is whatever they can afford to make it. Willem could easily be falsely accused of a crime, robbed by "bandits", or just assassinated. The only real shields are to possess enough economic influence to deter any such attempts, or to have a sufficiently powerful noble backing him. Even if he manipulates things so that his continued success is in the best interest of a noble, that isn't a perfect guarantee. Self interest is great for controlling merchants, who live or die off the stuff. Nobles don't need to be nearly so good at not making stupid decisions. Their power exists in their authority to set and enforce the law of the land. Both the perception and reality of that authority. As long as they maintain their military power and public respect for it, they can continue to rule. Even if they shortshightedly destroy a buisness that has the potential for massive long term profit, it won't alter the true base of their power. I could even argue that, eventually, the nobility and mechantry will come into conflict. I do not think a feudal government can run businesses as well as merchants can. They need to depend on merchants to drive the growth of the economy. But once the economy reaches a certain point, and those merchants begin gaining enough power, they are going to start trying to wrestle authority away from the nobility. Who funded all those revolutions in our own world's history, after all? So, once things begin to reach that point, would it not be in the best interest of the nobility to suppress merchants as best they can? Otherwise, they risk having their authority taken from them. In our world, the growth of the merchant class was a gradual thing that took a couple centuries. For the nobility of the time, it wouldn't be very hard to overlook the threat of it. But Willem is here trying to speedrun the process. I imagine that if he manages to acheive the rapid growth he is after, a lot of alarm bells are going to start going off in the minds of the nobility. He is still a far way off from that, though. Anyway, I think that Willem doesn't realize exactly what sort of game he's playing. He thinks that he'll be able to get people to move for money, when the reality is that all the money he's going to try to throw around might be seen as less of a boon and more of a threat by those who hold real power in this world.

mhaj58

Pun offs are very underrated.


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