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Bonus Video! The Time Betty White Outed Cary Grant
🕑 Added 2022-01-23 18:01:02 +0000 UTCWell hello there!
In this week's bonus video, I've got a very fun (dirty) joke courtesy of Rue McClanahan, and a real ~ mystery ~ about what she was doing standing next to hunky Dustin Hoffman at a party (???) sometime in the 1970s. Also! Check out this clip of Betty White spitballing about Cary Grant's sex life with Joy Behar. Was Cary Grant, you know? It's complicated, but let's enjoy some very gay photos of him with his, uh, housemate.
(Oops sorry I forgot the backup link! Here it is:
https://youtu.be/RzmCb_z88eA)
Comments
Kris Olsen
As much as it is awful to be in the closet, I also think it must have been sheer hell to be the woman marrying a gay man to keep his gayness a secret from fans. I feel so much sadness from these women going into a relationship that they knew was empty, or worse if they didn't know that it was a "prop". Ugh, the past was awful.
Kelly
Soap was the best. I'm kind of late to all of your content, Matt, so I wonder if you've ever done anything with the gay couple in Northern Exposure? That's one of the first gay relationships I remember seeing on screen, though it was well after most of what you've covered from Barney Miller, etc.
Matt Baume
It's such a sweet scene, and a great model for a coming-out. How awesome that it was helpful way back then!
Laura Mallory
Super looking forward to your Soap episode, the scene where Jodi comes out to his brother and they hug - really helped me to know how to respond when my little brother came out.
Tuna Oddfellow
I was a little boy when Soap came out and got to watch it during it’s first run and if was a highlight of my week. I look forward to next week. Thanks as always.
Ten Thousand Worlds
The backup text link worked. Thanks!
Irisarc
As a teen, I was REALLY into learning about the Hollywood Golden Age. I bought old gossip mags and read ever book I could find on the subject. I remember reading somewhere in a pulp-rag gossip mag a bit of gossip that indicated Cary Grant was as likely to be romantically associated with men as with women. In her autobiography, his last wife Dyan Cannon made it very clear that he was definitely attracted to women, though. There were also rumors of him being into BDSM, but I couldn't find any current sources to corroborate this. This would have been much more controversial even than him being gay at the time. Anyway, it is clear, if nothing more than from the wild rumors, that Cary Grant lead a very interesting life.
Matej Semes
I remember reading about the Bea/poop story years and years ago on some message board or maybe a comment section. For years I honestly thought I dreamed it up so I’m happy to know someone else heard it too.
Yonatan Zunger
"There's this really affectionate gaze behind the camera"... There are some pretty affectionate gays in front of the camera, too! 😉
Matt Baume
Ah this must be it! Thank you!
Matt Baume
Sorry about that! Should be there now!
Justin
Yeah, was about to mention she'd made her Broadway debut, at 34, as Sally Weber starring opposite Hoffman in the play Jimmy Shine in Dec 1968. The photo in the video might be from an afterparty possibly. You can read Dustin's small statement on Rue's passing here: https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/rue-mcclanahan-remembered-15878/ as well as the NYT's review of his performance (albeit with no mention of Rue): https://clickamericana.com/media/newspapers/dustin-hoffman-plays-himself-in-jimmy-shine-on-broadway-1968
Michael Montgomery
Here's a show that Rue and Hoffman both were in on Broadway called "Jimmy Shine" https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/cioznv/rue_mcclanahan_and_dustin_hoffman_on_set_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Ten Thousand Worlds
Um, while the Dustin Hoffman photo is brightening my morning, 😍 the video link is alas not working on the Patreon app, and the links in the related email notification seem to point back to the app. ☹️ Would you happen to have a direct text link for the Vimeo video? 🙏
