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Chapter 765: The Unmaking

🕑 Added 2024-01-19 18:06:29 +0000 UTC

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Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Cpt Tardigrade

JM edited the chapter to include the greater force armor, but i thought the spell was stronger than this. Greater force armor isn't strong enough to block some falling rocks? Like if a giant boulder crushed him it'd be reasonable for the armor to break, but for it to break from what sounds like random debris seems weird.

Mason

My advice, and hopefully JM Clarke is reading these comments and the reddit threads that have been made and everything else that says the readers are somewhat dissatisfied: Instead of deus-ex machina'ing their retreat and making Alex look incompetent and undermining everything you've done to make him and the Unmaker seem stronger, just have one of the important Uldar characters leave to go check on the throne when they're making the decision on the mountain. Let Alex dominate this fight the way he's supposed to, give the Unmaker a good fight, and then let the person safe elsewhere get a powerup to fight Alex if you want to prolong this whole conflict. I mean the Ravener still exists anyways. Oh well. Really disappointed.

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Completely agree! I remember times reading it where I would zone out and find myself 20 or 30 pages ahead having just autopiloted my way to the next interesting bit 😅

Joseph Thibodeau

To be honest, Alex with his army has outgrown the First Apostle and the fey. This shouldn't have even really been a battle, it should have been an execution. He could have turned introspective about how he wished he saw the look on the FA's face after the enemy was wiped out. The real battle that'll maybe be a fight worth being a struggle will be the complete destruction of the Ravener. Now either the FA or the Guide are probably going to assume the mantle of Uldar somehow and ascend to godhood and become a legitimate threat, also stealing the mantle that should rightfully be Hannah's. Alex's friends are also going to be put into a battle against a foe they are not powerful enough to defeat. Heck, it might take Baelin and his cabal to kill the FA if he becomes the new Uldar.

matthew gilley

im not sure the title fits here. no one was unmade. you have an unmaker and she didnt even do anything. when the unmaker kills the first apposable, the unmaking should be the title.

lenkite

I think the primary problem is that when you power up the protagonist, authors also have a tendency to [Dumb Down] the protagonist to maintain [Effective Story Balance]. Basically, CharacterBattlePower x CharacterBattleIQ = Constant. # Clarke Formula So, Alex is pretty dumb in battle nowadays. He doesn't take help from his cabal, he extensively monologues in battle instead of killing his enemy, he forgets to shield himself, etc. But hey, he can now cast [Fire Balls ☄️] ! If Alex met that [Mana Vampire] today, he would probably [Fire Ball ☄️] him until the Mana Vampire grows to become a 10-storey Godzilla, before realizing: hey it sucks up magic - gottu do something else.

lenkite

Yeah, they already knew he could cast [Force Armor].

JYonder

So the sanctum is filled to the brim with the Traveller’s power vis a vis Kelsa right? The Traveller is on her way to becoming a goddess right? So make it make sense that in this place somehow interdictions from long-dead Uldar’s secret church are more powerful.

JYonder

You mean all the loved ones that have been barely a footnote for dozens of filler chapters?

JYonder

FML - it’s already been AGES since any of the other main characters from books 1-7 have been part of anything in any meaningful way. I’m so sick of the damn ‘sanctum’ plot line. That horse has been dead for like 30 chapters.

Jessica

WoT was the first series of its kind I ever read, and I started reading in the 7th grade, so it definitely holds a soft spot and I’ve read the series many times. But oh my god yes there is that particular chunk that is just WORK to get through lol

JYonder

I have to wonder if that’s what happens when you get traction and the pressures that come with publishing written and audio books, planning for upcoming series, writing another series with a co-author on the side all before finishing the first project. This fight ought to have been the culmination of book 8, cut out 3/4 of the inane filler in the lead up to it, and focus on keeping your plot holes to a minimum so the entire thread doesn’t unravel into a terrible ending to an otherwise fantastic series. Alex has apparently ceased to care about all of his strategic alliances and closely built friendships with other powerful and resourceful characters. He apparently forgot that maybe the Unmaker should be focusing with him on the two most powerful foes. He’s a pretty piss-poor “general” TBH despite his miraculous penchant for quick learning and refinement. Always before Alex had to adapt because of some lack of knowledge, unexpected contextual factor, or the skill gap between him and opponents. Here he’s only going to have to adapt because of his own stupidity? That’s definitely not in character.

Jessica

And when he lets the giants help with the alchemy despite their lack of experience rather than being a total beast and doing it all with his wizard’s hands as before (both at work and in the bakery.) Just… no

Jessica

Right, it seems like the author is no longer putting in the same energy as he was before, which sucks since I’d hate to see this awesome series tie up in a blunder. I want to see the Alex that drained the mana vampire, and who ripped off FA’s arm the first time around. Back when the plot progressed through our immersion into the characters’ experiences, not by this out-of-place, stiff, rushed, explanatory dialogue. I’ve been pretty bummed for many chapters due to Alex seeming to have devolved into a dumb wet noodle that’s just constantly explaining what he’s been doing without the readers getting to actually experience it.

Raivshard

How could he not? He had to understand her in order to summon her. Additionally, Even if they had the power to do it, how could they trap her when they didn't even know she would be there? They were not prepared for any of this. Traps require preparation. The simple truth is that she should have been sent against the stalker first before anything else. Alex's army was clearly good enough for everything else. The unmaker also explicitly wanted something worthy of her abilities ... and yet she just charges right in to casually slaughter the chaff? That too seems like a mischaracterization. Either she was needed here, which means the stalker -- because Alex already knew he had everything else he needed to take out the lesser members of the hidden church -- or she was not, in which case she would be angry about being summoned needlessly.

deus vault

lol

deus vault

some variations of magic in lore describe it as it's own effect, others describe it as direct manipulation. in most it's a little bit of both. so, when a spell is cast, it directly manipulates the environment to create a certain effect using mana and will. a spell cast to prevent teleportation could be individualistic to prevent the action of casting a space attributed spell. but I think that the 9th tier spell would be cast on the environment. such that it would directly alter something in the fabric to prevent the use of teleportation. you can't bypass that sort of thing with brute force quite so easily. I like that in azarinth healer preventing teleportation was like a puzzle on the local spacetime fabric. but I think that warping the fabric for teleportation should be dangerous enough such that you would not need strong alterations to at least make the use of teleportation spells dangerous.

RyanR-Reviewer

I kinda agree. This battle should have been the ultimate finale of Book 8, not dragged out into Book 9. Also the Unmaker completely ignoring the two most powerful opponents is...odd to say the least. She is wasting her time killing weaklings instead of fighting proper opponents that might offer her a challenge. That is a complete divergence from her established personality, and just makes no logical sense IMO. .

Kass

Some magic, but 9th tier? Archwizard magic? Higher than most of his professors and nearly Baelin level magic? Vs the divinity of a long dead god not in his own domain?

Alex

The second half of the 8th book and this needs to be edited heavily. It's not funny anymore, the amount of issues is just keep growing

RyanR-Reviewer

Lol! i just commented on this before seeing your comment. The lack of greater force armor is kinda unbelievable tbh. I think this chapter needs to be edited before being published.

RyanR-Reviewer

So despite all his preparations Alex never once thought to cast greater force armor on himself-literally his main defensive magic-before engaging in his greatest battle yet....?

RyanR-Reviewer

To be fair, I think it has more to do with the author wanting to drag this fight out and potentially allow Stalker and the First Apostle to escape. Kind of hard to do that when they have been gutted, flayed and then turned to dust by an all-powerful war spirit that can seemingly shrug off divine power like rain off a windshield.

Sean T

Gotta agree on this point, if they escape then that's just super disappointing.

mant06

I wonder if some use interdictions to buff themselfs, instead of as debuffs.

mant06

Does Alex know that?

JKincaid

This idiotic stumble will literally make or break this entire series for me... why the holy hell would Alex strike an alliance with a supreme war spirit to send after soldiers that the giant and all the other summons could haver swept up easily.? In fact, this directly violates the agreement made with the Unmaker, he promised her foes worthy of her. The random rank-and-file goons are not said foes. The Stalker that's just standing on the sidelines not being attacked, is that foe. We're going to make Alex the stupidest, most illogical wizard in history simply because this endless plot thread needs to be dragged out further for... reasons. He somehow thought that the main threat for which he summoned a super duper war spirit was just going to like chill idly by while the spirit wastes the elaborate trap he set up by killing Church Goon #5? Give me a break, this is terrible writing, plain and simple.

Brandon Baer

Her divinity is in the form of cultivation. It falls under the divinity bracket of powers in the fool universe.

JKincaid

I agee with your sentiments, but one question, why would Theresa be the source of the divinity? I can't recall her slinging miracles anywhere in the text.

Raivshard

How would he lose her to a trap? She's beyond everything in that room. The only thing that's happening here is a combination unrealistic dumbing down and "The plot is longer because I want it to be".

mant06

While I agree with you, in fairness Alex might be trying to avoid losing the unmaker to a trap.

Reds

Yes because they brought the holy dirt in. And then Miracle is powered by faith channeled through the soul which isn't limited by location per previous chapters.

Reds

Yeah but unfortunately I think Holy Miracles out do magic. So even if he did an anti-teleportion spell, it probably wouldn't do anything.

Daniele Di Vitto

But they knew he could cast some spells, just not offensive ones.

Gareth S

Wasn’t it just!!! They could have dropped 1-2 books around book 7 or 8 in wheel of time and it would have been much better.

Alex

Yeah, he had time to mock them, but didn't have it for casting a simple spell?

Gareth S

Totally Agree

Jessica

A million words dedicated to planning and he somehow forgets force armor/force defense and totally blunders? Come on :/ we know Alex isn’t dumb but this past book really hasn’t made him look good

mag28

This is his first battle being able to cast magic so it might have slipped his mind. And remember he couldn't cast it before hand because it would have ruined surprise that he cast magic now

mag28

I agree with youguyss but, he couldn't put it up until he revealed that he cast spells. And maybe due to inexperience in battle casting/heat of the moment he hasn't thought to stop pushing the advantage and cast armor on himself.

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I’m pretty sure the epic final battle at the end of Wheel of Time series didn’t span this many chapters, and that series is bloated with extra wind. Good chappie on its own tho

The Immortal Orange

Considering that fighting the first apostle was one of the things he used to get her on his side, I'm pretty fucking confused by this entire chapter.

The Immortal Orange

Right? Dude's using the Villain Mistakes list as a checklist here.

Fleetpanda

I’m just confused about how he’s acting. When did he become some b-grade villain, monologuing and getting distracted? He should have 10 spells up keeping him protected. Not to mention that every word he speaks is a spell he isn’t casting.

Fleetpanda

Alex says that their army will be dead in five seconds, then spits out a paragraph that’d take way more than 5 seconds to say. Also why is the unmaker being wasted on fodder? The army of high tier summons can take care of them. Go unmake the only threat in the room already

Jordan Jones

Yeah, him not protecting himself is just…not believable to me. But, I guess it’s possible he just kind of forgot any kind of defenses against stray arrows, spells, or other missiles…very odd for such a large battle, but what’s written is written. Wish they’d have somehow dispelled his defenses using some kind of fae magic first.

BoxQueen

Personally, I love the fact that the enemies are fighting back. It would be fairly disappointing if there was no bite after alllll that setup. Sounds like Gabrian and Stalker might escape and that won't be a fun kind of retaliation.

Voror

I like how in all these thoughts FA never once considers the idea that maybe the answer is that Uldar is dead. Granted their miracles still work. He might not understand why that would be.

Jayson Legott

Hmmm…seems like a nice time for Alex to try some of that divinity as well

xxmaniaxx2019

Why does Alex not have his greater force armor activated?! Seems like a serious oversight when battling against such powerful opponents.

Brady Fiola

Agreed. It seems very contrived that they’re able to have this personal conversation when they’re in a room that’s swarming with high-level monsters. I don’t like that there’s never any numbers given either. There’s only so many times I can read that the church is taking heavy losses before I can lose credulity.

Rolf

Such exciting times probably explains this tiny typo: “Stop it!” Burger shouted

Code Reed

Would be funny.

CentaureHeart

I kinda hope this will be true. I would hate for them to escape.

Jadida

Nope it was never written in, because Alex is apparently thinks he can out teleport everything apparently. (I’m being sarcastic, because it’s either that or he forgot something important, which would be unusual because of the whole mark situation)

Voror

I wonder if wording will be important here. Like if he words the interdiction as targeting the Fool and it doesn't work because Alex isn't the Fool anymore

Scott Emery

Hmm. The writing makes it appear as though the church army is completely overpowered, not just by Numbers, but by the power of Alex's "boss" summons, with the unmaker in particular being beyond anyone in the room. Then we switch to personal combat between Alex, the First Apostle, and the Hunter, like they are in some kind of bubble, or in a different room. The point is, Alex is not alone but the primary adversaries pretty much are. The isolated mini-battle feels artificial. It is out of synch with the rest of what is going on.

LEMON

Does Alex not have force armor on??? How does some dirt get through it?

Kass

Yeah, but should a little bit of soil from a long dead god’s domain really be enough to overpower an actual sanctum of a near divinity in still live gods’ domains? I was looking forward to these priests trying an interdiction but having it fail since this as a sanctum ruled by Traveler mana.

Tyler King

Wasn't the interdiction meant to stop teleportation? I feel like Gabrian is going to try and use their prepared miracle to escape and find out they got hosed by their own magic.

Benjamin Mages

So he's not allowed to get satisfaction at killing the people who nearly killed him and his loved ones and have been hunting him relentlessly for months and got Carrey killed?

Uroš

They brought Thameish soil with them which seems like a cheap cheat.

The Immortal Orange

If Alex doesn't have a way to overcome the interdiction and the escape, I'm straight up done. He's had time to think and plan. He's seen both before. He's got resources to utilize, and a magical mark that makes him a genius at solving this kind of problem. He's supposed to be really crafty and clever -- that's what this whole series is, after all. Expecting your enemies to walk into a trap and then just fall over and die -- especially THESE enemies -- is something an absolute moron would do. If his plan was to bloody their nose, and send them packing so that he can deal with them after he'd solved those problems, that would be one thing. But he's been taunting them and gloating this whole time. His plan has obviously been to finish this and kill them. Letting them escape to teach Alex some kind of lesson here would be the worst literary decision in the series. He's already supposedly learned this lesson from Baelin. Don't extend this just to extend it. Alex seems to have lost some IQ points since the chase around the empire, but please don't just suddenly turn him this dumb.

Kass

If this sanctum is ruled by Traveler mana, how can Uldar’s church even establish an interdiction here? This is a space in another God’s domain and in another near divinity’s sanctum. It seems to me that Gabrian’s interdiction should fail.

Brandon Baer

I sure hope we see Alex learn some divinity from Teresa and get strong enough to physically match these bastards quickly if they escape. Hell, maybe be able to perform some interdictions of his own. Either way, their escape is a blow to morale but so be it.

lenkite

Maybe Alex told the Unmaker that he wants to take down the First Apostle himself.

Decide

Gabrian must be ill or something. He wonders why his God does nothing and says nothing about Alex right after its revealed that Uldar is dead. Come on, dude. If the escape and some fae replaces Uldar and commands Gabrian, I swear.

Stephen

I bet the stalker regrets saying this in chapter 644. “And that’s why I never hunted your god when he walked the world, I’m not hunting any of the fae lords, and I am not hunting that old, goat-monster that those wizards from the south brought with them. That’d be a great way to get killed, and I’m not interested in that. But at the same time, I don’t want to be hunting squirrels and chipmunks! Quarry needs to have some kinda way to bite back, or what would be the point? If there’s no danger there’s no thrill, and if there’s no thrill, there’s no fun. So, they’ve got to have enough power to hurt or kill you, but not enough to do it as simply as breathing.”

Daniele Di Vitto

Burger :D

Sébastien Kingsbury

I don't understand why the overpowered war spirit didn't just go straight for the head of the snake? From the sounds of it all the other summons were plenty to take care of the random soldier types. Dramatic tension I guess but it seems forced

mhaj58

They should have left enough blood for Alex to use magic to track them right?

lenkite

Well, this is a basic problem that he should have developed a counter for already. I mean [Mana Interdiction] was already deployed against him ij the past causing great loss of life. So it is something for which he should have prepared a solution. Otherwise, he can remove the [General] tag.

CentaureHeart

Definitely going to escape. Kinda sucks

Stephen

I guess we will see how much knowledge Alex has gotten from those books to help save his friends from TFA attack Maybe his new Mana pool will be enough to overpower the interdiction.

Zachary LaCount

All of that build up just for them to survive and escape to drag this out even further is just what we needed and wanted

Sam

Good chapter. Nice to see Gabrian and the stalker putting up some resistance. I think Gabrian may escape. I am not sure if it possible for stalker to escape without him so it seems less likely that he will survive.

Bender

With the doorway closed can they use an interdiction?

Bunny Waffles

See, and that is why you don't taunt your enemies with secret knowledge until they are dead. Mock the corpse damn it! Not the person!

Kaizen Androck

I was yearning to see the churchies suffer but that catharsis was missing. If the scummies escape, it would be such a fail.

Aidan Geverdt

I was kind of rooting for Gabrian here. Alex was getting to much joy out of this.

deus vault

I'm surprised alex didn't think about sealing their escape. wasn't there a 9th order sumonning spell to prevent teleportation in that empire's library or something? like, it's obvious they would run away if the odds stack against them.

Noobly

Incredible as always


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